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Yeah but the point is they've come good. I think wirtz will be too and already is getting there. Isak and kerkez are more concerning right now....

We’ve got 3-4 better than him who can all play 10

Grav isn’t struggling he’s a boss

A fair point

Dom looked amazing when he arrived then dropped off. Grav struggled in his first season - and sadly so far is doing so again in his third.

Agreed - he’s gone way under the radar with so many fans. Rivalled Hugo for MOTM and has been streets ahead of Grav or Macca this season

What gives hope is when we think back to grav and szobo coming in a couple of seasons ago, they weren't setting the world alight. They've since gone...

They play the same XI every week plus midweek in the conference so they could be knackered already

Believe me I watch him very closely and see everything he does. I just wonder why others manage to see something that’s not there. Anyone see...

Exactly but probably why he's had high ratings lately.... but people don't see the small stuff

Wirtz is a class act. His control and movement in tight spots is unreal. Every little touch is away from the opposition player. Real quality. The...

Think I read his running stats are up in last season. Could be part of the problem if true

Since Palace beat us their forms been up n down like a slags knickers.

Isak's replacement scored an own goal that lost his team their derby :D

We go to Arsenal on January 8th. We'll due a PL win there. Hope we can put a nail in the coffin of another title challenge from them.

Yeah it's not like he's turned into shit overnight... Not been easy coming into this team...

He'll get better. There's been lots of players who've had underwhelming seasons in the first. I'm not concerned about him at all, he'll get there...

Villa win again. Their next 3 matches: Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal could make the table interesting. It would be funny if Emery finished above...

Breakaway and pen awarded for City in the 88th minute. 0-3, Haaland puts it in.

City just gone 2 up at Palace. They play in the PL before Arsenal are at Everton next weekend. We well know it's very difficult to overtake them...

I look at Wirtz and then look at contributions of others playing in similar positions like Morgan Rogers at Villa, Palmer at Chelsea and even Foden...

No… Isak has been absolutely terrible when have I said different??

And Curtis Jones redgold?? Behave he has been our second best midfielder this season, after Szoboszlai.

Not really the same but I get the analogy. No one person is constantly trying to big up Isak’s performances for one and two how many minutes has...

Both Elliot and Jones Curtis should be guaranteed second half subs or rotation starters for less important games. That should be about their level...

yet you slag Wirtz off who actually plays- but Isak has a free pass ?

Yeah but that's like saying What's Isak brought to the party.... that nunez couldn't ?

If you spend £100m you really must be expecting much much more