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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    How do you know this to be true?

    For me the Ox is a CLASSIC FSG signing. Over priced but young and English! Klopp clearly likes him and we do need wide cover - but do you honestly believe he would be here had we had a chance of landing VVD?

    Furthermore do you honestly believe Coutinho would be here had we got Keita?

    The owners categorically ARE NOT backing Klopp, if so where are these funds??? The 200 million war chest (would have STILL left us playing catch up on City and United) was complete and utter horseshit. Rumour and empty suggestions about as reliable as the Annie road extension. A pipe dream to keep you all on side...

    And just for the record - the Ox was 35 not 40.. and he's on nearly £60,000 a week less than Arsenal or Chelsea were offering
    So he really wants to be here might eventually get that extra few percent out if him that seems to have been missing in his career so far.......

    imagine having a team of players who really wanted to be here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigRC View Post
    Well, if you're going to ignore everything Klopp says regarding the matter and at the same time, refuse to offer any evidence to the contrary, then it's going to be mighty difficult to convince anyone that you have a point. At the minute, it's just an incessant rant against FSG.

    Spending 40m on Ox (or 35, if you like) is on Klopp, not the owners. It offers no proof that they aren't backing him in the market. In fact, to most rational beings, it proves the exact opposite.
    I wouldn't ignore everything Klopp says at all, but I certainly wouldn't use any of what he says to the media as an indication of the state of play regarding players he rates or transfer funds..

    As an incumbent manager of any club you are the mouthpiece, the diplomat, you represent the club to the media - to take what is said as gospel would surely be naive.

    But you are quite right - most of what I say is an incessant rant against FSG and I don't deny or apologise for it. I want them gone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balinkay View Post
    Who said they had no chance for Lukaku? Klopp?
    Yep - but it wasn't said in isolation, it was part of his statement against the notion that Liverpool should have been in the market for a Striker...

    ďWe have Roberto Firmino, maybe not 25 goals, but ask anyone in the Premier League and they will say, ĎWhat a playerí.Ē

    Klopp rejected the idea he should have been in the market for a specialist No 9 before the start of the season .

    ďWe have Daniel Sturridge. We all know about his potential. Now heís fit, so hopefully we can use it,Ē

    ďAnd we have Dom Solanke for sure the biggest (young) English talent in the position No 9. Thatís a fantastic situation."

    ďBecause Morata is now really working and is a perfect fit, because Lukaku is the perfect fit for Manchester United, because Harry Kane is now scoring, because Lacazette is doing well... we had other things we felt we needed to do first. For us, the market was not really there. We had no chance for Lukaku. That would have been an interesting move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    I wouldn't ignore everything Klopp says at all, but I certainly wouldn't use any of what he says to the media as an indication of the state of play regarding players he rates or transfer funds..

    As an incumbent manager of any club you are the mouthpiece, the diplomat, you represent the club to the media - to take what is said as gospel would surely be naive.

    But you are quite right - most of what I say is an incessant rant against FSG and I don't deny or apologise for it. I want them gone!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Yep - but it wasn't said in isolation, it was part of his statement against the notion that Liverpool should have been in the market for a Striker...

    “We have Roberto Firmino, maybe not 25 goals, but ask anyone in the Premier League and they will say, ‘What a player’.”

    Klopp rejected the idea he should have been in the market for a specialist No 9 before the start of the season .

    “We have Daniel Sturridge. We all know about his potential. Now he’s fit, so hopefully we can use it,”

    “And we have Dom Solanke for sure the biggest (young) English talent in the position No 9. That’s a fantastic situation."

    “Because Morata is now really working and is a perfect fit, because Lukaku is the perfect fit for Manchester United, because Harry Kane is now scoring, because Lacazette is doing well... we had other things we felt we needed to do first. For us, the market was not really there. We had no chance for Lukaku. That would have been an interesting move.

    “You cannot buy just because you think you will not score enough. We have enough chances and we will score.”
    We have enough strikers, it isn't that dept that needs improving. Get a decent backline and we wouldn't need to score 2 or 3 goals a game just to get a result.
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    Forgive my ignorance and I may be well off the mark but isn't the Ox a similar type of player to Ibe? Right sided attacking midfielder. Can't see how the Ox is twice (in monetary value anyway) the player Ibe was when he was sold. I only neither are good enough (unless they were to improve vastly) for a club like us who should have title aspirations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Yep - but it wasn't said in isolation, it was part of his statement against the notion that Liverpool should have been in the market for a Striker...

    “We have Roberto Firmino, maybe not 25 goals, but ask anyone in the Premier League and they will say, ‘What a player’.”

    Klopp rejected the idea he should have been in the market for a specialist No 9 before the start of the season .

    “We have Daniel Sturridge. We all know about his potential. Now he’s fit, so hopefully we can use it,”

    “And we have Dom Solanke for sure the biggest (young) English talent in the position No 9. That’s a fantastic situation."

    “Because Morata is now really working and is a perfect fit, because Lukaku is the perfect fit for Manchester United, because Harry Kane is now scoring, because Lacazette is doing well... we had other things we felt we needed to do first. For us, the market was not really there. We had no chance for Lukaku. That would have been an interesting move.

    “You cannot buy just because you think you will not score enough. We have enough chances and we will score.”
    Yes, we probably don't need a 25 a season striker.

    Also we probably could never have got Lukaku.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigRC View Post
    Well, if you're going to ignore everything Klopp says regarding the matter and at the same time, refuse to offer any evidence to the contrary, then it's going to be mighty difficult to convince anyone that you have a point. At the minute, it's just an incessant rant against FSG.

    Spending 40m on Ox (or 35, if you like) is on Klopp, not the owners. It offers no proof that they aren't backing him in the market. In fact, to most rational beings, it proves the exact opposite.
    To me it's more worrying if klopp wanted oxtail. Very expensive for back up player. Very crap for first team. We have a tonne of midfielders. Baffling. Bring in someone decent on a free and pay the wages. Would make more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red October View Post
    To me it's more worrying if klopp wanted oxtail. Very expensive for back up player. Very crap for first team. We have a tonne of midfielders. Baffling. Bring in someone decent on a free and pay the wages. Would make more sense.
    It's not more worrying for me, it shows he is the one going after these players, and they are getting signed on HIS say-so and no-one else's.
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    I notice Klopp didn't mention Ings in his list of strikers, and he's been linked to a move to Leeds Utd in January.

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