Originally Posted by
Balinkay
That's nonsense and you know it. People have little idea what the EU actually does, as evidenced by the fact that even economists can't seem to work out whether or not this whole shiteshow will lead to a recession or an economic boom.
It's not normal to expect the average person to understand how a machine as complicated and as opaque as the EU functions and what benefits and drawbacks membership has for their own personal lives. I think it was poorly communicated by both sides of the debate what each outcome would cause and people were heavily misled by both Project Fear and the Big Red Bus.
also doesn't help that politicians are liars and fail to communicate the true facts to the people who vote.
Originally Posted by
Balinkay
The UK was a willing member of the EU for a while. Now it wants to leave. They have been allowed to.
Not yet, we haven't.
That seems pretty democratic to me. How they can't work out what exactly it means to leave is beyond me. And how they didn't think about what would happen if the people chose to leave before commiting to the referendum is just a joke.
It's a disgrace how this has been handled by both sides of the debate.
what a bunch of "mass debaters" comes to mind
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People are demonstrably too dumb to vote on certain things, which is why they elect people to represent their interests in power. While the average person is incapable of comprehending the complex pros and cons of say nuclear power, they should at least be able to judge whether or not a given political candidate will do their best to protect their interests. That's not perfect of course, but it's better than the alternative. [/unquote]
it should be the responsibility of parliament/politicians to give the populace sufficient and genuine/honest information in the case of referendums in particular. Problem is, we all know, they can't/won't because they're all dishonest.
Originally Posted by
CCTV
6) it seems the only time an election is illegal or irregular in Europe is when the people vote against the eu. Thereafter they rerun the vote and force through the correct vote, or they bypass the people and get politicians to pass it through without the people.
It'll be interesting to see if the eu can thwart Brexit in the UK.
Far as I'm concerned, the EU moves money around Europe (the EU) and pays itself astronomical amounts to do so.
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Jesus Christ, do you honestly think the average Briton did their research with regard to Brexit? Wasn't the most googled term the day after the referendum "What is the EU?" or was that just a meme.[/unquote]
think/hope it was just a meme. Average Briton expected (heaven knows why) the politicians would for once be honest with the information they gave out.
There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief
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