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Last edited by Steveo; 15th September 2020 at 12:41 PM.
Hi Taksin,
Sweden appears to have a very similar death rate per million of population v England/UK. (1 in about 1500)
One had lockdown the other did not.
Sweden death rate in this regard also seems higher than its neighbouring countries.
What do you predict will happen to this comparison over the next year for example.
You mention Dr Mike Yeadon - why should we listen to him above others.
My favourite trusted virologist is Dr Chris Smith who appears on BBC fairly regularly. Do you discount his views?
(*sigh*)
sometimes.....some things in life are just needlessly so sooo painful....
Information that is otherwise easy to get from the internet with a simple Google search:-
(.....and equally easy to distort and misrepresent for anyone who doesn't know any better)
As of September 16th, 2020 :-
Brazil Coronavirus death rates per million - 635.51
United Kingdom deaths per million - 626.63
Brazil total confirmed deaths - 133,119 deaths
United Kingdom total confirmed deaths - 41,664 deaths
Also pertinent - Population of Brazil :- 209.47 Million
Population of the United Kingdom :- 66.49 Million
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
I don't know...
Attempting to unfavorably compare one's country's (admittedly mismanaged and bungled in large parts) own COVID-19 situation to another country that has otherwise unquestionably and objectively horridly mismanaged their own COVID-19 situation (to the extent that they have the 2nd only to the United States in terms of total confirmed COVID-19 deaths and have the 3rd highest daily increase as of yesterday (after the US and India)), doesn't seem, to me anyway,...to be the most adept or prudent way of making a case for one's argument in favour of doing what they (Brazil) did to deal with it....
But what do I know?
I'm not a medical expert.
'I got told there's an English phrase, 'You don't win trophies with kids'. I didn't know that' ... - Jurgen Klopp
Stone-Cold Savage!
I actually did check the Brazil statistics at the time, CD, and the number was still below the UK at that point. They are still similar, roughly equivalent and that fact is relevant to the question Dicko asked quite some time before you entered the debate. I tried at the time to post the graph, which was indeed easily available but this website wouldn't accept the format.
The rest of your post I don't understand - I have no interest in painting the UK as favourable or unfavourable in the way you seem to imagine I'm inclined to do. The Swedish policy, strategy, philosophy, scientific expertise and decision making makes it hard to argue that the lockdown we had here in Britain made any positive difference to the death rate. I don't believe the claims of success made by the British government or by Imperial college are scientifically valid.
I'm not sure if you think the Brazil strategy was bungled or the UK one, but Brazil is described as having no lockdown, which is interesting as Dicko was under the impression that things were very bad there when they are actually comparable to the UK experience in terms of deaths.
Germany on the other hand has had a death rate comparable to a 'mild flu season', as have many other places. I am very interested in the reasons for these differences but very few in the media are capable of looking beyond 'testing' and 'distancing', which I believe to be minor variables.
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