Irish, geordie , welsh ... heard different accents
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Originally Posted by toneata
...and now the Irish version.......stay at home!!!
"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass.........and I'm all out of bubblegum."
YNWA
Irish, geordie , welsh ... heard different accents
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Juventus' players and manager Maurizio Sarri have agreed to their pay being stopped for four months to save the club an estimated 90m euros (£80.7m) during the coronavirus pandemic.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52079747
Hope to hear more stories like this from the top clubs
...shows his class...
Would like to hear of some funds filtering down to the lower leagues, from most of the "rich" clubs.
Rowdy Yates
Wake up call for the ridiculous unsustainable model of sports TV Rights.. The crazy money involved ( and I don’t just mean football ). Banking and entertainment to name a few more.
In what universe can anyone morally justify a semi literate footballer earning £600,000 a week.... while an experienced nurse, often tasked with saving people’s lives...earns around £560 over the same 7 days..??
It’s a sick joke and IF anything good comes from this pandemic - hopefully it will make people see the primitive, base underlying evils of Capitalism.
It is wrong - it always was wrong and using examples of Communist dictators to rebuff a socialist ideology is as ridiculous as suggesting that crossing the road blindfold is fine “‘cause you did it twice and lived.”
Until you chop it’s head off it will continue to consume and make consumers of us all.
Gloryhunter
Is it a wake up call though Steveo? Do you honestly think something will meaningfully change long term?
I'm not too optimistic on that one.
Etiam si omnes, ego non
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Don't worry folks. Celebs can sing "Imagine" again and that will fix everything.
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I think all footballers contracts (and agents, sponsorship, TV and its subscribers) going forward will have to take on the implications of this pandemic into consideration with a long term view. I cannot see someone buying a player now for £100s millions and on a wage of £10s of millions in the current situation and there is no clear view of when the virus will be under control. Even then the chance of another outbreak must be factored in. Perhaps the bubble has finally burst.Is it a wake up call though Steveo? Do you honestly think something will meaningfully change long term?
I'm not too optimistic on that one.
From a supporters view - considering the financial damage done to us by this virus - who among us will be buying a season ticket next season or even attending anywhere near as many games next season (assuming they will all get played that is) or buying a TV subscription.
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If you pay for Sky Sports, you are to blame. Even if you watch the game in the pub on their Sky Sports, you are part fo the economy that has lead to this.
A good thought experiment would be to ask what is the socialist version of football? Do we evenly distribute footballing talent? We want equality of outcome - no one triumphs over anyone else. No one gets to moan about how the club hasn't spent enough as we all have to spend the same amount. Everyone gets paid the same amount - Salif Diao is no more valuable than Steven Gerrard. Le Tallec costs the same as Firmino. Djimi Traore is paid the same as Van Djik. No one gets to think their club is better than anyone else's club. Women's football is mandatory viewing.
Strangely, that's the world of the NHS. I've worked in hospitals and I can tell you there are completely brilliant nurses and really bad ones. But they're all paid the same if they have the same qualification. We aren't allowed to recognise their different values because we have imposed payment controls on the entire market. No one can build a better hospital if they want to. They all have to be as limited as each other. When someone donated a £1 million Da Vinci machine to a London NHS hospital I worked at, it was rejected because it wasn't equally available to people all over the country. No one can excel. No one can develop and create something better. All we can do is endlessly complain about government funding as if that will, one glorious day, finally solve all the problems in an equalised way.
Then we have spasms like the current situation when we say, yeah but the real heroes are the nurses, not the footballers. But that isn't true. The footballers are our heroes. We spend our time on a football forum, not a nursing forum. Football is an escape from the real world where our family members put on their nursing uniforms and trudge off to work in mildly difficult circumstances and do an admirable job. The nurses I know tend to love football and we talk about it a lot. It's a distraction.
One interesting fact is that the wages of sporting stars rise dramatically towards the end of an empire. This happened to gladiators in late Rome for example. At one point they were paid modestly for their work, much as our footballers were only 60 or 70 years ago. Then their wages exploded as the cracks in the economy started to show - the government debauched the currency, substituting silver with tin in the coinage so they could pay for foreign wars. Taxes went up, people couldn't save money, government spending sky-rocketed. But at least everyone had their sports for entertainment. That's where we are now - calling for more government spending as if we can reach the promised land if we just draw in those final tax avoiders.
At least we have our footy though.
Sir what is going on.. things is not going according to plan. u promiss early signing. noting happen. Man u 3 player now
Rowdy Yates
As a quick example .
Red Star Belgrade.
Ask any Liverpool fan who witnessed them destroy us in both legs but especially at Anfield.
The super ‘socialist’ (Yugoslavia was not behind the Iron curtain as many believe ) version of football created arguably the best club football team in Europe. They were miles ahead of anything in Spain or Italy or Britain or Germany twice in their history... but especially in the 70’s
Red Star were epic - could dominate any side on the continent. Sadly though they did have a touch too much Socialism in their play. They didn’t play the dark arts and ultimately missed out... But on a purists football level - one of the best sides seen - FAR superior to any Barcelona side
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