Reason No. 398,285 why it's not good to have your club owned by a Petro-Oligarch

[Steveo]

It’s so clear and obvious really. The Uefa ruling was universally understood to be a negative outcome for City… and that was as early as October 2019. within a month Silver Lake had Valued Citygroup at £5 billion and agreed a deal for a 10% stake.

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/nov/15/manchester-city-cas-appeal-financial-fair-play-uefa-dismissed

City knew what was coming. Strangely their CAS appeal was already in the pipeline.. But rejected…. What changed between this and Silver Lake’s 10% stake..? I wonder..

Either way… February the Uefa ruling was made public, the Silver Lake deal goes through… Appeal to CAS… made.. Granted…

Sorted….

[miller0863]

Whoever is pulling the strings, whoever actually owns the club whichever group of undesirables infiltrating football taking it towards certain doom … it matters not.

The plain and simple fact that irks most who look towards the blue half of Manchester with utter disdain, is that they have bribed and cheated their way to their current position, sitting atop of the richest and what should be, the most competitive league in world football.

It sickens me to the stomach that the media en masse, continually ignore their abhorrent underhand book cooking and general duplicity, instead lauding Pep as the greatest single human being to ever grace God’s clean earth.

You need look no further than the recent signing of seeking Haaland for more evidence of this deliberate whitewashing of the truth, indeed many in the press expressed their admiration for Manchester City’s transfer strategy in paying so little for who is probably the world’s most valuable striker.
Really? REALLY???

Let’s just ignore the vast amounts paid to his father, his Agent and outlandish £500k a week salary.

Yeah very frugal, what a coup eh?

Absolutely abhorrent state of affairs.

[Steveo]

All absolutely true. And we all know they have flouted the rules. Begs the question. How have United escaped any investigation? they have spent similar sums on transfers and salaries yet haven’t won a bean…

That’s before we broach the subject of Chelsea. Who suddenly seem able to spend whatever they like..?


Gulp…

[Insidious]

All absolutely true. And we all know they have flouted the rules. Begs the question. How have United escaped any investigation? they have spent similar sums on transfers and salaries yet haven’t won a bean…

The boring answer here is that despite no growth in commercial and matchday income since 2016 and a wage increase from £232million to £384million, they've been alright due to the flexibility given to clubs over Covid, which essentially gave them a 4-year period for cost-spreading rather than three. Combine that with amortisation and their debt management - they're "legit".

UEFA's squad cost management rules are stricter though. Man United are okay for now but as the percentage thresholds of what's permitted each year will be dropping with each year, they could land themselves in trouble - though this could be countered by spending less in the market, sales and giving out smaller wage packets - the "Ronaldo rule" being enforced for example.

No surprise then that the Glazers want to sell - don't be surprised if their new owners are fans of "creative accounting" to help the project.

[Steveo]

Sorry but that just doesn't stack up. Not in any way at all. Since 2008 both clubs have spent an almost identical amount. Which is incredible when you look at the disparity between what City have won and United. The period City are in the doc for currently predates Covid. What makes a club legit or not - or perceived as such in the Anglo Saxon world (This sadly includes Ireland as US pawn) is to a great extent - the nationality of the owner.

Roman to date being the only owner whose club faced sanction. Now Suddenly Chelsea can game the system.

As mentioned UAE FC were caught with their pants down and punishment was dished out. However - Just as they were told - in mid November 2019 - they could not challenge any looming decision until AFTER a verdict... They swiftly sold 10% of City Group to US "private" equity... They then managed to get their day in court at the CAS - which is about as impartial as the UN. De-facto run out of New York sodding City

The CAS is basically a wing of the IOC. It is privately funded - largely via TV revenue and big brands like Coke, Samsung and VISA. It is sponsored.. This isn't about transparency and it never was

[CCTV]

Sorry but that just doesn't stack up. Not in any way at all. Since 2008 both clubs have spent an almost identical amount. Which is incredible when you look at the disparity between what City have won and United. The period City are in the doc for currently predates Covid. What makes a club legit or not - or perceived as such in the Anglo Saxon world (This sadly includes Ireland as US pawn) is to a great extent - the nationality of the owner.

Roman to date being the only owner whose club faced sanction. Now Suddenly Chelsea can game the system.

As mentioned UAE FC were caught with their pants down and punishment was dished out. However - Just as they were told - in mid November 2019 - they could not challenge any looming decision until AFTER a verdict... They swiftly sold 10% of City Group to US "private" equity... They then managed to get their day in court at the CAS - which is about as impartial as the UN. De-facto run out of New York sodding City

The CAS is basically a wing of the IOC. It is privately funded - largely via TV revenue and big brands like Coke, Samsung and VISA. It is sponsored.. This isn't about transparency and it never was

Up until very recently, united have been in the top 3 richest clubs in world football alongside barca/real.
Living off the wealth Fergus accrued over his tenure.

As such they have been able to spend as they have done.
City in contrast haven't had anywhere near their wealth as a club and have spent vast fortunes like united.
Unlike United who can put everything on the books and generating legitimate revenue, city have had to cook the books and sign bogey sponsorships with themselves.

The CAS is a longstanding stain on sport. Alas there is little will to deviate from the norms of sporting authorities. As seen with the ESL, a very good market solution to the inherited problems. A better schedule, better stability and revenue generation.

As per the Yankee doodles, you can always spot them with their incessant virtue signalling. Willing to adopt the American mantra, a nation of immigrants. Only concerned with the plight of native Americans when it suits them, and never as a matter of principle.
People predisposed to only ever see the one side of an argument as it suits their innate desires, as they pretend it is a morally based decision.
Sadly, Ireland has been conquered by such pillocks and gombeens.

[teesred]

"And so one of the world’s richest states spends years trying to hire the world’s greatest coach, succeeds, and then gives him literally everything he needs. Every other club in the world, with the exception of Paris Saint-Germain, has to operate within the constraints of finance or fortune. Every other club in the world has flaws or problem areas that they can’t address right now, but hope to at some point in the future. Guardiola, by contrast, gets the staff he wants, the players he wants when he wants them, gets their replacements ahead of schedule. So you don’t just sign Erling Haaland, you sign Julián Álvarez to give him a rest. Kalvin Phillips arrives for £45m, doesn’t play all season, and it’s fine. You decide – and just reflect on the breathtaking audacity of this for a second – that you need an upgrade on Phil Foden, and so up pops Jack Grealish. If someone accuses you of breaking the rules, you hire the world’s greatest lawyers to shoot them down. This is perfection, but not so much the perfection of great art as the perfection of a finely-executed military campaign, the perfection of unlimited wealth, the perfection of political strength, the perfection of a pointless mile-high crystal pyramid in the middle of the desert. No academy players and no Mancunians started for City last night. Does this matter? Does anything matter?"

- from Jonathan Liew for the Guardian

Wow. I'm amazed ( and glad) that's actually in print.
Bet he's been accused of being a bitter Liverpool fan.

[redebreck]

Wow. I'm amazed ( and glad) that's actually in print.
Bet he's been accused of being a bitter Liverpool fan.

Should be posted/shared all over social media and beyond.

[Nineteenx]

"And so one of the world’s richest states spends years trying to hire the world’s greatest coach, succeeds, and then gives him literally everything he needs. Every other club in the world, with the exception of Paris Saint-Germain, has to operate within the constraints of finance or fortune. Every other club in the world has flaws or problem areas that they can’t address right now, but hope to at some point in the future. Guardiola, by contrast, gets the staff he wants, the players he wants when he wants them, gets their replacements ahead of schedule. So you don’t just sign Erling Haaland, you sign Julián Álvarez to give him a rest. Kalvin Phillips arrives for £45m, doesn’t play all season, and it’s fine. You decide – and just reflect on the breathtaking audacity of this for a second – that you need an upgrade on Phil Foden, and so up pops Jack Grealish. If someone accuses you of breaking the rules, you hire the world’s greatest lawyers to shoot them down. This is perfection, but not so much the perfection of great art as the perfection of a finely-executed military campaign, the perfection of unlimited wealth, the perfection of political strength, the perfection of a pointless mile-high crystal pyramid in the middle of the desert. No academy players and no Mancunians started for City last night. Does this matter? Does anything matter?"

- from Jonathan Liew for the Guardian

Yes Redebreck is quite right, this should be shared across all forms of social media and fan sites, someone needs to embarrass the entirety of the rest of the limp pricks in our media into speaking out on the subject and calling it for what it is

Imagine if some like Sir Robin Day got to interview Guardiola, in the days the media did their job calling out corruption, he'd have savaged the cunt and any City players about how they felt to be part of a set up ruining the Premier league, domestic cups and Champions League

[Insidious]

Raucous scenes outside the stadium of the League winners.

https://twitter.com/FBAwayDays/status/1660040997718355970/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1660040997718355970&curre ntTweetUser=FBAwayDays

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