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  1. #511
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    Revenue streams are almost exclusively based on our ability to prostitute ourselves to the corporates & day tripper tourists, while we merchandise the shyte outta the club to a global audience.

    What you are pointing out is not what they have done well, but what they have shamelessly copied from the filth!!

    What da fook is so great about this? Honestly it’s cheerleading for the over commercialisation of Liverpool football club. Big Mac N’Fuckin’Fries FC..

    You just know that any cheerleading of these fraud owners is mostly from those who have likely never seen a game at Anfield. A relentless positive spin around their ability to extract money from punters while stiffing the manager.

    It’s like listening to a 10 year old lecture you on how to run a household. It’s Fookin nuts
    Last edited by Steveo; 9th February 2023 at 01:00 AM.

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    Deloitte Money League 2023
    Position Club Revenue (€m)
    1 Man City 731
    2 Real Madrid 713
    3 Liverpool 701
    4 Man Utd 689
    5 PSG 654
    6 Bayern Munich 654
    7 Barcelona 638
    8 Chelsea 568
    9 Tottenham 523
    10 Arsenal 434
    11 Juventus 401
    12 Atletico Madrid 394
    13 Dortmund 357
    14 Inter 308
    15 West Ham 301
    16 Milan 265
    17 Leicester 252
    18 Leeds 223
    19 Everton 214
    20 Newcastle 212

    From:
    https://www.footballtransfers.com/en/transfer-news/uk-premier-league/2023/01/deloitte-money-list-shows-the-super-league-should-have-been-allowed-to-happen

    "And it’s all coming to pass. The Deloitte Money league has 11 of its top 20 teams - and 16 of its top 30 - located in the Premier League. For the first time in the history of the list, which dates back 20 years, a single league has dominated the list so entirely.......

    Wolves, West Ham and others like them spend €40-€50 million on players, and often acquire them from far larger rivals. It’s fantastic for those clubs, for the players being paid well, and for the future success of the behemoth that is the Premier League...

    But for teams further down the ladder - the likes of Roma, Lazio, Valencia, Villarreal, Dortmund, Leverkusen, Ajax…. These teams are as ripe for plundering by Manchester United as they are by Nottingham Forest.

    That is an undeniably grim state of affairs for the distribution of talent across Europe and there’s almost certainly nothing that could be done about it......"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Revenue streams are almost exclusively based on our ability to prostitute ourselves to the corporates & day tripper tourists, while we merchandise the shyte outta the club to a global audience.

    What you are pointing out is not what they have done well, but what they have shamelessly copied from the filth!!

    What da fook is so great about this? Honestly it’s cheerleading for the over commercialisation of Liverpool football club. Big Mac N’Fuckin’Fries FC..
    Football has become very commercial in general. I can't say that I love that, but if we are to keep up, then we have to do some/most of how most football clubs make money -

    - Prize Money for winning things.
    - Sponsorships from brands.
    - Sales and transfers.
    - Selling of merchandise.
    - Broadcasting contracts with satellite and digital channels.
    - Selling naming rights for stands and stadia (one I particularly dislike)
    - Matchday sales of tickets within the stadium.
    - Other Stadium revenue sources like tours.

    You ask what's so great about it - nothing especially, but it's part and parcel of how all clubs are run and we have gotten better at maximising revenue streams. If we have taken some notes from other clubs I'm not bothered - managers take tactical inspiration from rivals all the time and I don't think this is especially different.

    Would I love to turn back the clock to a "simpler time" and have the game as a whole be less commercial? Absolutely! Unfortunately that isn't possible. We see some sections clamouring for owners from Qatar/Abu Dhabi/Saudi Arabia because they want to "be competitive" because "football has changed" - well, some of the above is necessary because the game changed some years ago, particularly in the Premier League era.

    The alternative is big cash injections from owners/custodians but that's a difficult one - Newcastle's owners have more wealth than the rest of the League combined so I wouldn't want the footballing world to pursue a model that simply asks "who has the most money?"

    Thankfully we have managed to avoid some of the worst aspects of commercialisation. We haven't had to move stadium (which I am delighted about) and we haven't seen the stadium renamed.

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    Ye're a right pair of extremists. One confusing a cucked state for loyalty, the other too outraged for coherence.

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    Go to a game. And stop lecturing about that which you know less than nothing.

    As for coherence, my word that is some glass house you live in my friend.

    Directed at both.

    You could write the hind legs off a donkey but neither of you understand the club. You just don’t get the magnitude.

    Dumping data in the tonnage - but so selective and much of it un verifiable.

    We could save a bit here and maximise a little there. Look for a bargain in the outer Hebridean leagues…FFS. What do you think this is? A new business venture?

    This is Liverpool Football Club. It’s about being the best. At the very least it’s about striving for that. “A bastion of invincibility”. That IS the goal.

    If that ain’t the goal then fuck off. Take your dollars and go. Let someone who IS going to make that the priority. If you can’t play with the big boys then you don’t have the money for this gig. If the only thing that profits is the owner. Then they owner has to go.


    Feels like yous two want the struggle. The finding that jewel to sell for a
    Mint and then get every penny spent to work at 100%. Every time…

    That’s what can happen once / maybe twice, and even then only with the best motivator on the planet in situ. That isn’t a template for long term anything. That is a template ONLY IF your MO is profit.

    That’s what they got.

    Time to go
    Last edited by Steveo; 9th February 2023 at 01:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Go to a game. And stop lecturing about that which you know less than nothing

    Directed at both.

    You could write the hind legs off a donkey but neither of you understand the club.
    Your Club, the one you want a richer cunt to piss more money away on when you take a break from crying about the world's starving masses...

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    Also there is no way in hell FSG could rename a stand. WE are paying for it out of our revenue. Money that could go on players is going into paying down loans - with interest.

    How in the living fuck can ANYONE spin that as FSG being decent?

    If they were to rename the stadium - they would have to build one first!

    That’s just bonkers. We are glad we stayed at Anfield. But we stayed because of budget. Again nothing that the owners should be patted on the back for: it’s all in Henry’s email
    transcript from 2010. I have posted it many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    Your Club, the one you want a richer cunt to piss more money away on when you take a break from crying about the world's starving masses...
    Yes my club and who asked for a richer owner? I have maintained that they just needed to spend a bit more. Afford Klopp the odd risk. Like maybe buy more than 1 senior mid in 5 fucking years!!!

    It is THEY who say they cannot compete. So then - sell up and let those with bigger pants take over. If they can’t afford it.. with their small £10 billion pot - ta Taa

    As for starving masses - there should be zero. There is zero excuse for a single human to go without food. But that’s for another place.

    If you honestly are so small minded that you cannot separate these two things - you have some serious issue

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    As per the rest you've added with the edit.

    I want LFC to turn a profit each year, to run on a profit. To do some outreach/charity, pay some taxes including corporate tax.

    I'd like to see the global appetite to see top football maximised. Something the ESL format would have delivered over the relatively shit new CL format.

    https://tomkinstimes.com/2015/11/klopp-reversing-the-laws-of-gravity/

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    The above post outlining perfectly what I am saying. You don’t seem to understand this club. It feels like it’s a hobby for you, more than it’s your club.

    If it’s your club then profit - even for the club itself - IS NOT the primary concern. Let the money men look after the money so they can back the manager. That’s what counts in this game.

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