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    Referees accountability….

    Just a quick aside regards recent Refereeing decisions and the medias lack of examination..

    In the City game last week Ruben Dias executed a scything two footed lunge tackle and only won the ball after contacting the player first, no foul given no analysis afterwards…. I do not understand why, as it could have led to a serious injury…

    In our game yesterday, Trippier lunged in on Nunez, again a reckless challenge that didn't win the ball cleanly, Nunez ended up injured, but no foul given and no analysis…..and another foul on Salah on the byline which was the same story which could have led to serious injury for Salah, but once again no foul given, no analysis either during or post match…and yet Pope gets sent off for handling the ball outside of the box and denying a goalscoring opportunity, so the correct decision…but in the grand scheme of things seems extremely harsh when these other tackles which in my opinion are far worse as they can cause career ending injuries, go completely unpunished…. 🤔😳😡

    Surely, these incidences need to be looked at forensically and lessons learned before we witness a player have their career ended through indifference to a Referees lack of accountability…

    They analyse VAR officials and punish their poor decisions punitively retrospectively, surely the same approach should be applied when these poor Refereeing decisions are missed during a game, but are so clear once examined as forensically as VAR decisions are…

    Just saying…

    Great result, but like JK said massive room for improvement…Tuesday is another massive game..bring it on 👍🏻😁

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    The role of the referee is to make decisions on the pitch, not to justify them after the game. Referees are highly trained and experienced professionals who are paid to make split-second decisions in a highly intense environment. They have to make decisions based on their own judgment, and the laws of the game, often with limited access to replays or technology. Requiring referees to explain their decisions after the game is an unnecessary burden on them and would detract from their ability to focus on their job during the game.

    Forcing referees to explain their decisions would lead to increased pressure and scrutiny on them, potentially leading to negative consequences such as public shaming or even threats to their safety. Refereeing is already a highly stressful and challenging job, and the additional pressure of having to explain every decision could make it even more challenging. The focus should be on supporting referees in their difficult role, rather than placing more demands on them.

    There is no guarantee that requiring referees to explain their decisions would lead to greater transparency or fairness. Referees are human, and they can make mistakes. Requiring them to explain every decision could lead to increased pressure to justify decisions that are simply wrong or debatable. Additionally, referees are not always in the best position to see every angle or perspective, and they might not have the benefit of video replay in real-time. Therefore, explanations given post-match may not always be accurate, and could potentially create more confusion rather than clarity.

    Allowing referees to make decisions without the pressure of having to explain them after the match would allow them to have more authority and confidence on the pitch. Referees are already under enormous pressure, and requiring them to explain every decision would only add to that pressure. This could potentially lead to more conservative decision-making, with referees being less likely to make bold or decisive decisions for fear of the backlash that might follow. Allowing referees to make decisions without having to justify them afterward would give them greater authority and confidence, which would ultimately lead to more consistent and fair decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JockStrap View Post
    The role of the referee is to make decisions on the pitch, not to justify them after the game. Referees are highly trained and experienced professionals who are paid to make split-second decisions in a highly intense environment. They have to make decisions based on their own judgment, and the laws of the game, often with limited access to replays or technology. Requiring referees to explain their decisions after the game is an unnecessary burden on them and would detract from their ability to focus on their job during the game.

    Forcing referees to explain their decisions would lead to increased pressure and scrutiny on them, potentially leading to negative consequences such as public shaming or even threats to their safety. Refereeing is already a highly stressful and challenging job, and the additional pressure of having to explain every decision could make it even more challenging. The focus should be on supporting referees in their difficult role, rather than placing more demands on them.

    There is no guarantee that requiring referees to explain their decisions would lead to greater transparency or fairness. Referees are human, and they can make mistakes. Requiring them to explain every decision could lead to increased pressure to justify decisions that are simply wrong or debatable. Additionally, referees are not always in the best position to see every angle or perspective, and they might not have the benefit of video replay in real-time. Therefore, explanations given post-match may not always be accurate, and could potentially create more confusion rather than clarity.

    Allowing referees to make decisions without the pressure of having to explain them after the match would allow them to have more authority and confidence on the pitch. Referees are already under enormous pressure, and requiring them to explain every decision would only add to that pressure. This could potentially lead to more conservative decision-making, with referees being less likely to make bold or decisive decisions for fear of the backlash that might follow. Allowing referees to make decisions without having to justify them afterward would give them greater authority and confidence, which would ultimately lead to more consistent and fair decisions.
    Great reply tbh in defence of Referees, but I would like to just reply…

    I think if you choose to become a Premier League Referee, with a worldwide audience stretching into the 100’s of millions unfortunately you will have to accept scrutiny and accountability as part and parcel of your job and allowing this to affect your ability to make decisions is part of the problem.

    Secondly, everyone appreciates that being a Referee and having to make split second decisions given the pace of the modern game has become increasingly difficult, especially given the wall to wall media coverage each game receives and the accompanying post match analysis on every contentious moment, however that is why VAR was introduced.

    However, my problem is if incidences that I mentioned are allowed to go under the radar without comment or analysis how can improvements in Refereeing be achieved, just because all three players didnt get seriously injured is no justification for not recognising how dangerous these tackles were….. I am sure that if the players had been seriously injured, the incident would have been reviewed and commented on accordingly, with I am sure appropriate cards being forthcoming…Harvey Elliots sending off is a prime example of this.

    Lets not forget the Salah and Van Dyk suffered injuries from similar reckless tackles that at the time were also deemed to be not even fouls, and we all know how that panned out negatively for both the players and our Club…

    So my comments was not an unwarranted dig at Referees who i appreciate do an almost impossible job, but if VAR which is run by the PGMOL and IFAB to supposedly help Referees dont spot these incidences and tell the Ref in real time, and the ex pros in commentary also fail to identify these as bad tackles, this failure to be accountable will I’m afraid lead to another severe injury or worse and we will have learned nothing….

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    Yesterday the technology showed that Rashford was offside for his second goal. The commentator even commented, oh its going to be offside. But then suddenly some human decided that it was onside.
    VAR means that refs in Stockley Park can make even more dubious decisions than in the old days, with less scrutiny than if they made those decisions on the pitch.

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    Just seen the tackle that should have been a red card and the offside goal that was given
    Referee: Stuart Attwell. VAR: Paul Tierney

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    Just shows you how corrupt our officials are.. The technology is in front of them. But their biasness gets in the way.
    some decisions make you think WHY?? if 99% of the world knows what is happening. Yet the VAR person doesn't. Makes you think whats going on here
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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    Just shows you how corrupt our officials are.. The technology is in front of them. But their biasness gets in the way.
    some decisions make you think WHY?? if 99% of the world knows what is happening. Yet the VAR person doesn't. Makes you think whats going on here
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