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I was discussing what Actually happened. Like for instance our Keeper being MOTM against a side with 10 men for so long..
And last night both keepers threw one in their own net. Courtois actually doing so first. We scored 1 goal - they scored 4. This actually happened. We know we beat Everton and we know we beat Newcastle, but that doesn't end the conversation. Trying to drag it on and on in an attempt to deflect from the "STUFFED" comment is transparent.
All it takes is a little balance..
Nunez has to play.. frankly - right now without him, we look devoid of any threat at all.
Fab and Hendo won't be tasked with the same level of opposition as Madrid have so I guess they might feature, but ONLY because the other options are dire. Bajcetic must surely need a rest after playing game after game after game at his age and experience level.. So Klopp has a some tough decisions to make for this game. That's before we even mention that back line..
I don't think it is as simple as just going with the same team. IF Elliott, Carvalho, Jones, Keita and Oxlade are literally unusable then the mnager has no choice.. but we must surely have another option beyond.
"Dang Taksin muthafukker change 'is name Bruh"
People here have a very skewed view of things most of the time, you know, the sort of people who start bashing the Captain after one misplaced past in a match thread ONE misplaced pass, when he's been integral to one goal and put another on a plate Mo should have buried, but our other 2 midfield lads constantly letting the press get broken doesn't enter into the equation apparently
I say this after seeing Matip's OG v Wolves for the first time last night and having read so many absolutely ridiculously skewed comments about Matip about it, it fucking hit him, it was blasted into the area and he couldn't possible get out of the way of it, how on earth people were slating him for that is simply fucking ridiculous - Matip or Konate would have put a challenge in on Vinicius to stop him scoring their first last night - Neither would have brought him down for the free kick they scored from or given Big Bear that shit back pass and either of them would have made a challenge on Benzema before he added their fourth, you have a talent for bashing both of them, both are better than almost every other CB in the league
"If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”
There are an awful lot of truth deniers here also, practically everyone here is seeing what I've said about Fab since 18-19 now, have these issues suddenly appeared? Have they fuck, they are amplified and therefore now obvious to the untrained eye because since Gini left we don't have 2 other mids who can cover his sorry arse and we have lost our best forward presser in Mane, an area in which Nunez was non existent last night and as Jurgen has tried to make us less direct and more of a passing side to disastrous effect, the overall level of our pressing and counter pressing has dropped off a cliff, so Fab's incredible faults and glaring deficiencie are laid bare for all to see
He got beaten to a ball he as favourite to win in last night's game by Modric, then jogged back, he's not a midfielder, they should do one of those passport things they did about the Arsenal defender questioning his work permit when it said he was a defender as if Fab has one as a midfielder he should be ejected from the UK immediately, it'd certainly help turn things around
"If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”
People are seeing Fabinho have a shocker of a season. That can happen to any player at any time.
It doesn’t mean he wasn’t instrumental in both our major title wins. He was absolutely crucial.
You can deny it all you like, but it doesn’t look good.
And what about Jordan, he has been shocking himself. Does that mean he was always this poor? How about Salah last season after the AFCON? Was that the Salah we should judge - should we agree with those who said he wasnt worth keeping 2 or 3 years ago? OR should we remember the great player that so often carried us to wins?
These 2 player ratings and reviews are accurate to a degree BUT for some reason the Captain is miraculously escaping all of your the wrath.
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Fabinho – 4
Decided to go on a couple of first-half rampaging runs, a bit like the old Fabinho but about 10mph slower.
There were a few good passes. A couple of necessary fouls. One or two tackles, even. But for the most part he was just passed around, run past and utterly found wanting by a midfield with movement, tenacity and athleticism. Looks done at this level.
Jordan Henderson – 4
Another culpable for Real’s first goal as he left his man, but three times more in the first half got back to tackle and halt counters as Real threatened to burst forward in numbers.
Like his midfield partners, was overrun and mauled and looked like a relic as soon as Real upped the tempo of their passing in central areas.
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And beyond this - the entire team has struggled this season. Virgil, our rock for so long, one of the single biggest reasons for our change from top 4 challengers to title winners… he has been shocking this season. Is he also now shite? Should he also have his passport revoked?
What is clear as Crystal is - we can’t deal with Real. As I have said many times. You won’t get away with players like Henderson up against players like Modric almost ever. It is a bridge too far. They know they aren’t in that league and they get found out. No shame for the Captain, that s on Klopp, who I love to bits.. . That’s perhaps the one thing you both share - you just don’t seem to see what a man like Carlo so clearly can. My hunch is Klopl has seen it of late, but he simply doesn’t have any other options.
We always needed a better midfield imo, we had one that was fantastically hard working, also supplemented with genuine quality in the likes of Shaqiri and Lallana even the Ox when fit and a able… we often just got by - and at other times got away with it - with incredible effort, fantastic crowds and some out of this world forward play. All of our players were out working the opposition… but that cannot last.
Just one of two more quality additions and we would have won double imo. Had we added one or 2 first teamers capable each season and I believe we are out of sight.. even now.
Last edited by Steveo; 23rd February 2023 at 12:42 AM.
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