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Homelessness is absolutely abhorrent - though I think it is a somewhat unfair false equivalence to make. Naturally I would love it if the "system" was infinitely better here and that these people could receive help. A friend of mine who refuses help and escapes intervention attempts is "functionally Homeless" and there's no obvious route out for her - it's a terrible thing.Originally Posted by justincredible
With Homelessness, as terrible as it is (and that really cannot be over-stated here) there can at least be some chinks of light or opportunity for help - certainly moreso than those facing trial/execution in Saudi Arabia. A friend of mine, Dee Corr (wouldn't normally provide a name but given that I could be accused of racism in here I guess it wouldn't take much to be accused of making a name up, so people can Google him should they so wish) was Homeless and sadly lost his life on account of a brutal stabbing, whilst he was working towards getting a permanent Home set up. As awful as his Death was (stabbed 40+ times because the neighbour in his multi-storey decided he was playing his tin whistle "too loudly") he had, prior to that, had chances and opportunities to get out of his terrible circumstances. He would refuse the "charity" of a free bed, but he'd happily accept a pair of batteries for his stereo, so we could and did buy those. We provided him with company when he was willing, we'd maybe drop a hoody round a corner from where he was that he could find (as he would refuse outright as a gift) and so on. As grim as his personal circumstances were for a couple of years of his Homelessness he managed to get from sleeping in the streets to getting accommodation and he was due to be getting interviewed for some sort of work scheme. Had his utterly indefensible killing not occured, he could have "got out" with time - I don't think the same can be said for most of those who are to be subjected to execution.
Do I condone the major flaws in the system that lead to veterans and the mentally ill finding themselves in these terrible predicaments? No, of course not. Do I see them as different to an execution? Yes, I do I'm afraid.
Would you indeed. Well, that's your choice. Frankly though I think you are thinking of the "quick Death" aspect and conveniently overlooking what may come before. Tuti Tursilwati killed a man in self-defence when he tried to rape her. She had already served 7 years imprisonment.
Or young Abdullah al-Howaiti - arrested at 14 and forced to confess to a crime under torture having not received a fair trial - executed as a minor. Beheading may have been swift, but I doubt the torture was.
No.
"Degeneracy" is open to a lot of interpretation. If by degeneracy you meant "homosexuality" then I would say that I would heavily critique any individual or body that cannot at least show some open-mindedness to the "love is love" concept - within age-appropriate boundaries and proper practice of consensual parameters etc
Also what is happening in Israel over property to expel Palestinians through red tape is just awful.
Lastly - and it's a more general point, I find the correlation in the desire to routinely bring up "what about the West?" and "what about America?" extremely interesting, given that we have American owners that lads are always in a rush to have a pop at. I suspect if they were French or Australian or *insert nationality here* these chats wouldn't crop up half as often.
Funny that.
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