Your team v Nottingham Forest

[Steveo]

“The NHS is a real favourite of yours, they've mutilated the development of numerous kids, support men competing in women's sport against their wishes and participate in the eugenic practice of deleting 73 million unborn children a year”

Are you for real? Do you even know what the NHS is - how it was founded and what its principles were until it was broken up and sold off bit by bit. All of it silenced by the media.

Do yourself a favour and watch the Pilger film. Then come back and try this nonsense again.

As for quasi racism - it surrounds this forum like a stink. The ills of the game are exclusively down to a Russian and an Arab sheik because they spent with impunity - while the Galzers did the same only using debt… So that’s ok and at no point do any of you want to point the finger at the real culprit.

The Americanisation of the sport. That’s the beginning and the end, my little right wing friend

[Steveo]

Again for anyone who missed it. Watch and learn.

[scientificred]

Not sure of your arguments from your future posts on this thread Steveo.
Such domination would have made us abhorred.
It also may have left us open to fines and points deductions etc.
Who knows what the judgment on Man City might be under fdp and srp.
I like the way we have achieved things under FSG.

[jozza800]

“The NHS is a real favourite of yours, they've mutilated the development of numerous kids, support men competing in women's sport against their wishes and participate in the eugenic practice of deleting 73 million unborn children a year”

Are you for real? Do you even know what the NHS is - how it was founded and what its principles were until it was broken up and sold off bit by bit. All of it silenced by the media.

Do yourself a favour and watch the Pilger film. Then come back and try this nonsense again.

As for quasi racism - it surrounds this forum like a stink. The ills of the game are exclusively down to a Russian and an Arab sheik because they spent with impunity - while the Galzers did the same only using debt… So that’s ok and at no point do any of you want to point the finger at the real culprit.

The Americanisation of the sport. That’s the beginning and the end, my little right wing friend

Is that aimed at my post? I've already pointed out there are a multitude of problems with modern football and the things that have contributed to it, and no matter how you want to spin it City and Chelsea are a part of it.

Take all of the politcal side stories out of it and boil it down to just the football, would you genuinely want to win things the way Man City or Chelsea's have gone about it?

And a note on United. There is a difference, as there would be for other clubs that are piling up a massive debt like they are, eventually that debt wil have to repaid. That will be a copnsequnce of their spending. an the same be said of City and Chelsea?

[Steveo]

Not sure of your arguments from your future posts on this thread Steveo.
Such domination would have made us abhorred.
It also may have left us open to fines and points deductions etc.
Who knows what the judgment on Man City might be under fdp and srp.
I like the way we have achieved things under FSG.

Ok - so you're saying its good that we have been held back by the business model that ONLY benefits the owner because we wouldn't be liked by rival fans? Fook me..

Ok mate... Carry on..

And it seems you are indeed missing the crux of my arguments from my earlier posts.

I am asking WHY so many of you are completely BLIND to what is really going on. IS it fear or simply brain wash?

That our league Just like our NHS is being taken over to serve as more profit generation for private US interest. Don't forget this all feeds into the same interest that is massively benefitting from war in Ukraine - the genocide in Gaza - the blowing up of Europe's only source of cheap energy.. The top 1% in the US. On and on it goes and most of you can only muster a shake of the head or a moan at Roman Abramovic (best club owner the prem has seen) or Sheik Mansour. It would be laughable were it not so sad.

Sad.. to see how devoid of any critical thinking and how conditioned you have become. Unable to even broach the topic and face up to the real culprit. The Culprit that is so cock sure of itself it will discuss it openly. Instead many of you just parrot the same old garbage about how happy you are with how FSG have done things. You really wouldn't be at all had Klopp not worked his miracles....but even that - is all totally beside the point.


The ONLY people making a tangible profit from our game are US billionaires. Not that I agree with it but the Sheik invested his own money AS did Roman - personally, the Yanks are TAKING IT HOME right now in the form of a sale OR dividends OR as in our case - as collateral to buy more franchises.

https://sport.optus.com.au/news/prem...tDevice=mobile

[Steveo]

Is that aimed at my post? I've already pointed out there are a multitude of problems with modern football and the things that have contributed to it, and no matter how you want to spin it City and Chelsea are a part of it.

Take all of the politcal side stories out of it and boil it down to just the football, would you genuinely want to win things the way Man City or Chelsea's have gone about it?

And a note on United. There is a difference, as there would be for other clubs that are piling up a massive debt like they are, eventually that debt wil have to repaid. That will be a copnsequnce of their spending. an the same be said of City and Chelsea?

Not your post exclusively but at the wider forum.

Oh they are just 'a part of it' now. Well at least we are getting somewhere. Every club is to a degree a part of it. BUT what is it that led to this scenario? What is the root cause of this sickening over monetization and rampant commercialisation of the sport? Where TV audiences in the US or China dictate when a game is played..?

It's something you will not tackle because in your case you're a sucker for US Sports. Good for you.


Apart from providing Fergie with a proper challenge - explain HOW Roman's Chelsea was in any way more damaging than the Glazers at United?


You also seem to be saying that spending with impunity is better when it's done with debt? Scratching my head with this.

For instance - the US national debt in 2024 stands at an eye watering 34 trillion U.S. dollars!!

Now be honest.. ask yourself a question... Do you think they will every pay it down? OR do you think perhaps this constant opening of profit markets to US billionaire interest might have something to say about it?

[CCTV]

“The NHS is a real favourite of yours, they've mutilated the development of numerous kids, support men competing in women's sport against their wishes and participate in the eugenic practice of deleting 73 million unborn children a year”

Are you for real? Do you even know what the NHS is - how it was founded and what its principles were until it was broken up and sold off bit by bit. All of it silenced by the media.

Do yourself a favour and watch the Pilger film. Then come back and try this nonsense again.

As for quasi racism - it surrounds this forum like a stink. The ills of the game are exclusively down to a Russian and an Arab sheik because they spent with impunity - while the Galzers did the same only using debt… So that’s ok and at no point do any of you want to point the finger at the real culprit.

The Americanisation of the sport. That’s the beginning and the end, my little right wing friend

Are you denying any of these assertions about the NHS ? It's hard to tell with your flamboyantly theatrical wailing.

I've provided the data on how it is an eugenic grinder of working class Britons, the type of children the police left to be gangraped. I see that hasn't stirred any of your emotions, carry on with your anti-racist smug copper pals

Quasi racism

If you feel its specifically racist that people bemoan the cheats, why do you not like them ?

United spend within their means as dictated by the regulations.

[CCTV]

Ok - so you're saying its good that we have been held back by the business model that ONLY benefits the owner because we wouldn't be liked by rival fans? Fook me..

Ok mate... Carry on..

And it seems you are indeed missing the crux of my arguments from my earlier posts.

I am asking WHY so many of you are completely BLIND to what is really going on. IS it fear or simply brain wash?

That our league Just like our NHS is being taken over to serve as more profit generation for private US interest. Don't forget this all feeds into the same interest that is massively benefitting from war in Ukraine - the genocide in Gaza - the blowing up of Europe's only source of cheap energy.. The top 1% in the US. On and on it goes and most of you can only muster a shake of the head or a moan at Roman Abramovic (best club owner the prem has seen) or Sheik Mansour. It would be laughable were it not so sad.

Sad.. to see how devoid of any critical thinking and how conditioned you have become. Unable to even broach the topic and face up to the real culprit. The Culprit that is so cock sure of itself it will discuss it openly. Instead many of you just parrot the same old garbage about how happy you are with how FSG have done things. You really wouldn't be at all had Klopp not worked his miracles....but even that - is all totally beside the point.


The ONLY people making a tangible profit from our game are US billionaires. Not that I agree with it but the Sheik invested his own money AS did Roman - personally, the Yanks are TAKING IT HOME right now in the form of a sale OR dividends OR as in our case - as collateral to buy more franchises.

https://sport.optus.com.au/news/prem...tDevice=mobile

The business model you pretend guarantees results, does not, and this has been made evident to you by my analysis of net spends and positions. Its a poor correlation with few predictive powers.

But hey carry on pretending like the leagues have all been won by united due to their net spend in this last decade.

[Steveo]

The business model you pretend guarantees results, does not, and this has been made evident to you by my analysis of net spends and positions. Its a poor correlation with few predictive powers.

But hey carry on pretending like the leagues have all been won by united due to their net spend in this last decade.

Guarntees results for whom? The owners? R U saying that with FSG"s model and Brendan Rodgers - or - Poch - or Tuchel - we win a title and a European Cup??

Is this why pundits are arguing that Klopp is the greatest despite the relatively small amount of major titles..1 League and 1 European cup in 9 years at the most successful club in the land?


Put that thinking cap on and come back to me. From my perspective the only beneficiary of the model is the owner. It's part of WHY Klopp has burned out early - and part of why so many of our players have too!

[CCTV]

Guarntees results for whom? The owners? R U saying that with FSG"s model and Brendan Rodgers - or - Poch - or Tuchel - we win a title and a European Cup??

Is this why pundits are arguing that Klopp is the greatest despite the relatively small amount of major titles..1 League and 1 European cup in 9 years at the most successful club in the land?


Put that thinking cap on and come back to me. From my perspective the only beneficiary of the model is the owner. It's part of WHY Klopp has burned out early - and part of why so many of our players have too!

I've analysed reality shown the correlation to be spurious and a poor predictor.

I have explained the obsession with net spend as you obsess over it, I even predicted we'd finish above Chelsea when you were in a tizzy. Still 25 points better off than them.

You now ask me to analyse various hypotheticals in the absence of your argument based on reality.

Surely my analysis of Alonsos low net spend & your fear over Chelsea due to high net spend should be enough for you to accept as an answer on other hypotheticals.