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    It wasn't just Liverpool supporters who lost loved ones at Hillsborough on April 15 1989. Here, Ian Collins, a staunch Evertonian, talks about the loss of his brother Gary and why he's given up the fight for justice.

    Take a long, hard look.

    I am an Evertonian. I live in Liverpool. Sefton, actually. Merseyside, anyway.

    I don't go to as many games as I used to. I gave my season ticket up a couple of years ago. To be truthful, I got a bit sick of working all week to pay the wages of the likes of Pistone. They're just not worthy of it.

    My elder brother Gary died at Hillsborough. Asphyxiation. The breath was crushed out of him by the sheer mass of bodies squashed into such a tight space. I'm getting angry thinking about it.

    He was no angel like, and I hope to God he did have a few bevies before the game.

    I don't like to be reminded of it. I don't much like the memories of seeing the disaster unfold on the telly, not realising he was there until my dad said so. Even then, jokingly saying, 'Our Gary'll get me one of them' about the numerous Police helmets littering the pitch.

    There was no phone call to say he was alright. This became more worrying as the day wore on. My dad's grim march around to the pub. His return with the dreaded news from his mates who had returned but couldn't bring themselves to come to ours. I don't blame them. What would they have said?

    My mother had kept her composure up all day up until that point, busily ironing every bit of clothing in the house that wasn't on someone's back. Upon hearing the news - which was a strained, 'There's no other way of saying this, he's dead' - all the day's ironing got flung around the kitchen and the ironing board was upended.

    I escaped to the back garden and tried to fend off a particularly boisterous Jack Russell I kept there (for the rats in our council slum).

    The rest of the day is a bit sketchy. I realise now I was in shock. I was seeing a girl I'd known for years at the time. Not that serious but in my thoughts enough for that to be the first place I turned to.

    The poor girl didn't know what to do with me. I was pretty vacant. She probably just plied me with drink.

    Her dad, who I regard as one of my best friends now, came in. Not knowing about my news, he said, 'Have you seen what's happened? Do you know anyone that's gone?' My girlfriend had to take him out of the room to explain. 'Yeah,' I said to no one.

    I went to Sheffield the next day with my dad and a couple of uncles. The rest of my dad's brothers, who were scattered around the country, met up there to support us.

    My girlfriend still says I shouldn't have gone but as I said at the time, 'I can't remember the last time I saw him. I've got to'.

    It was a weird dream-like journey. I kept expecting him to be standing on some street corner smiling, saying: 'Where have youse been, ay?'

    It never happened and we set about making sure the person they had lying on some slab in this town was our Gary.

    They had some kind of community/church hall set up to deal with people like us. I suppose they were doing their best in a terrible situation but the last thing we needed was to be comforted by some stranger who knew nothing about us or the person we were looking for.

    'Listen mate, where's the nearest pub?' My Dad said.

    'There's one across the road. Shall the young fellow stay here?' Lazarus says.

    I was at the front going out the door.

    After a few pints, we decided we'd better find the place where they were keeping the bodies.

    We were sitting around on couches in what I think was a morgue. There were a lot of people about, all crying or with worried looks on their faces.

    A couple of fellas went past in white tunics. One of them was about Peter Crouch's height. My uncle David said, 'I bet he does nights'. We all laughed. God, you had to. The laughter didn't last long and the smiles didn't linger.

    We were ushered into a room. There was a glass-viewing window with a curtain drawn across it on the inside. As we stood in the dark, all nine or so, there were no jokes.

    The curtain went aside and there laid my elder brother, Gary. It was him, alright. Or something with the life knocked out of it that resembled him.

    My dad rested his hands on the windowsill and put his nose up to the glass. I couldn't handle it and fled the room. I was off up the street and our David came after me and brought me back.

    I asked my Dad days later why he did that and he said, 'Well, you have to make sure'.

    The events of 15th of April knocked the stuffing out of my mum and dad and they began visibly ageing. My relationship with my dad is better now as we did clash at the time. My sister and I get on better than we did at the time too but what teenager is on more than grunting terms with their elder sister anyway?

    Not long after, we were in one of the cathedrals in town. Can't remember which one. They had us all lined up in some vestry as [Maggie] Thatcher and some royal with the coldest hands I've ever shaken shook mine.

    The coldest hands I've ever felt and the coldest heart in the same room to shake the hands of a lad from Bootle. That wouldn't happen while I was conscious nowadays but I was young and impressionable at the time. 'So dreadfully sorry,' I think Maggie said.

    'Yeah, I bet yis are,' I can just about live with myself for not saying.

    Fair play to my granddad who turned his back on the pair of them. I'd pay money to revisit that sketch. God knows what Maggie and her mate thought. I hope they had a good think about it, but I doubt it.

    I better get to the point of this, if there is one. It feels alright writing about it for the readers who will take it for what it is, on a basic human level. Something I suspect some folk are lacking. Basic Humankindness. Not a word, but sod it, this is my piece.

    We as a family started getting letters and tickets through about memorials. I was all for supporting my mother and father in this if that's what they wanted to do. I'd already explained to my mother that I wasn't going to visit a gravestone in Thornton every week and she accepted it. It's single figures the amount of times I've been there. My mum and Dad go every week. That's their decision.

    They also go to the memorial every year. One of the first ones I went to, I stood on the Kop with my mouth sealed. I've never been to one since. I've vowed to never go there again unless it's for the derby.

    What struck me was the amount of people on the Kop that day. It was full. 96 people died and they give around 5 tickets to each family. I personally don't understand why you would want to be involved in something like that unless a relative or a friend had died.

    At the start of the day, we were gathered in one of their lounges. Somehow we had managed to get in the wrong place and the players walked in and stood near us. I'll never forget the sight of people standing their kids next to them and taking photographs. I was speechless. I suppose I wasn't much better with my black Everton badge on.

    My mum and dad still go to these things, but even my mum is getting a bit tired of the whole thing. My sister and auntie go and I normally give my ticket to my cousin, who was very close to Gary.

    I normally meet them in the Abbey or one of the many boozers along County Strasa afterwards. I went mad at my sister and (female) cousin for going on about being able to smell Baros' aftershave last year. A couple of years before, Berger was the object of their attention.

    I was in Sheffield recently to do with work. After I'd done what I was down there to do, I very nearly stayed on the tram to Leppings Lane. I decided not to in the end. It struck me that my brother - who I used to get a hiding off for wearing his clothes (he went off his head when he saw our Isle of Man holiday snaps and I'm standing there grinning in his Adidas top with a fish I'd caught), got another for snapping the forks on his Raleigh Bomber in Derby Park, used to laugh at me doing Southall impressions, bouncing the ball off the wall and diving full stretch across the bed - died in a strange town, at a horrible football ground, with people sitting and shouting on the spot where he drew his last breath once a fortnight and I wasn't there to help him.

    At the FA Cup Final in 1989, me and my girlfriend went. We got free tickets from LFC. I had a few bevies that day and joined isolated crowds in hurling more than a bit of abuse at the Met, who, to be fair, took it on the chin.

    The game's a bit of a blur. My girl's a Blue and I remember her being stood on her seat screaming. One thing that stands out from that day is during the minute's silence: someone started playing reggae music full blast from somewhere.

    I don't like minute silences, there's far too many of them and they're never completely silent. This clapping lark's a much better idea. The thought of armchair fans clapping at the telly is marvellous.

    A few things I'm going to leave you to chew on

    I am an Evertonian. I live in Liverpool. I am a Scouser. What's so hard to understand about that?

    No amount of profound banners, car stickers or cheap wristbands is going to bring our Gary back.

    It's hard to explain to children why they would have had another uncle only he was killed at a football match.

    Boycotting The Sun is pointless. The lazy excuse for a journo that wrote the offending crap and the editor who let it go have probably moved on and not missed a night's kip over it. If you would read The Sun anyway without the boycott, you need to have a rethink of your worldview.

    I hope no one ever sings '96 is not enough' or anything similar near me. Then again, why would they at a match where Everton were playing?

    I hope my mother never gets to hear about other human beings singing songs about her dead son.

    Justice is never going to happen. Let it go. I'm trying really hard to. Some of you have even more reason to do so.

    I've visited Hillsborough since 1989. It was a horrible game, it rained, I sat in the home bottom bit with the Evertonians above me.

    Bakayoko shot a sitter over the bar to cap an awful day I'd sooner forget. Three points would have been nice but the game summed up that season.

    I am proud to say I have sat in Wembley and sang 'Merseyside' at a Cup Final. I've also sat on the shoulders of a huge Watford fan when they were two-nil down. I was with my dad. I'd like to take my kids to see Everton in a Cup Final one day. I'll be bloody annoyed if it's spoilt by a gang of idiots.

    I'm still with the girl who looked after me on the night of 15th of April 1989. We have three kids. I couldn't imagine how I'd feel if I lost one of them - let alone heard people singing songs about it.

    She still plies me with drink. Take it easy.
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    Thanks Nomad. A very heavy and sobering read but a necessary one. I wish Ian, and everyone affected -no matter who they are, my deepest thoughts and sympathies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomad
    It wasn't just Liverpool supporters who lost loved ones at Hillsborough on April 15 1989. Here, Ian Collins, a staunch Evertonian, talks about the loss of his brother Gary and why he's given up the fight for justice.

    Take a long, hard look.

    I am an Evertonian. I live in Liverpool. Sefton, actually. Merseyside, anyway.

    I don't go to as many games as I used to. I gave my season ticket up a couple of years ago. To be truthful, I got a bit sick of working all week to pay the wages of the likes of Pistone. They're just not worthy of it.

    My elder brother Gary died at Hillsborough. Asphyxiation. The breath was crushed out of him by the sheer mass of bodies squashed into such a tight space. I'm getting angry thinking about it.

    He was no angel like, and I hope to God he did have a few bevies before the game.

    I don't like to be reminded of it. I don't much like the memories of seeing the disaster unfold on the telly, not realising he was there until my dad said so. Even then, jokingly saying, 'Our Gary'll get me one of them' about the numerous Police helmets littering the pitch.

    There was no phone call to say he was alright. This became more worrying as the day wore on. My dad's grim march around to the pub. His return with the dreaded news from his mates who had returned but couldn't bring themselves to come to ours. I don't blame them. What would they have said?

    My mother had kept her composure up all day up until that point, busily ironing every bit of clothing in the house that wasn't on someone's back. Upon hearing the news - which was a strained, 'There's no other way of saying this, he's dead' - all the day's ironing got flung around the kitchen and the ironing board was upended.

    I escaped to the back garden and tried to fend off a particularly boisterous Jack Russell I kept there (for the rats in our council slum).

    The rest of the day is a bit sketchy. I realise now I was in shock. I was seeing a girl I'd known for years at the time. Not that serious but in my thoughts enough for that to be the first place I turned to.

    The poor girl didn't know what to do with me. I was pretty vacant. She probably just plied me with drink.

    Her dad, who I regard as one of my best friends now, came in. Not knowing about my news, he said, 'Have you seen what's happened? Do you know anyone that's gone?' My girlfriend had to take him out of the room to explain. 'Yeah,' I said to no one.

    I went to Sheffield the next day with my dad and a couple of uncles. The rest of my dad's brothers, who were scattered around the country, met up there to support us.

    My girlfriend still says I shouldn't have gone but as I said at the time, 'I can't remember the last time I saw him. I've got to'.

    It was a weird dream-like journey. I kept expecting him to be standing on some street corner smiling, saying: 'Where have youse been, ay?'

    It never happened and we set about making sure the person they had lying on some slab in this town was our Gary.

    They had some kind of community/church hall set up to deal with people like us. I suppose they were doing their best in a terrible situation but the last thing we needed was to be comforted by some stranger who knew nothing about us or the person we were looking for.

    'Listen mate, where's the nearest pub?' My Dad said.

    'There's one across the road. Shall the young fellow stay here?' Lazarus says.

    I was at the front going out the door.

    After a few pints, we decided we'd better find the place where they were keeping the bodies.

    We were sitting around on couches in what I think was a morgue. There were a lot of people about, all crying or with worried looks on their faces.

    A couple of fellas went past in white tunics. One of them was about Peter Crouch's height. My uncle David said, 'I bet he does nights'. We all laughed. God, you had to. The laughter didn't last long and the smiles didn't linger.

    We were ushered into a room. There was a glass-viewing window with a curtain drawn across it on the inside. As we stood in the dark, all nine or so, there were no jokes.

    The curtain went aside and there laid my elder brother, Gary. It was him, alright. Or something with the life knocked out of it that resembled him.

    My dad rested his hands on the windowsill and put his nose up to the glass. I couldn't handle it and fled the room. I was off up the street and our David came after me and brought me back.

    I asked my Dad days later why he did that and he said, 'Well, you have to make sure'.

    The events of 15th of April knocked the stuffing out of my mum and dad and they began visibly ageing. My relationship with my dad is better now as we did clash at the time. My sister and I get on better than we did at the time too but what teenager is on more than grunting terms with their elder sister anyway?

    Not long after, we were in one of the cathedrals in town. Can't remember which one. They had us all lined up in some vestry as [Maggie] Thatcher and some royal with the coldest hands I've ever shaken shook mine.

    The coldest hands I've ever felt and the coldest heart in the same room to shake the hands of a lad from Bootle. That wouldn't happen while I was conscious nowadays but I was young and impressionable at the time. 'So dreadfully sorry,' I think Maggie said.

    'Yeah, I bet yis are,' I can just about live with myself for not saying.

    Fair play to my granddad who turned his back on the pair of them. I'd pay money to revisit that sketch. God knows what Maggie and her mate thought. I hope they had a good think about it, but I doubt it.

    I better get to the point of this, if there is one. It feels alright writing about it for the readers who will take it for what it is, on a basic human level. Something I suspect some folk are lacking. Basic Humankindness. Not a word, but sod it, this is my piece.

    We as a family started getting letters and tickets through about memorials. I was all for supporting my mother and father in this if that's what they wanted to do. I'd already explained to my mother that I wasn't going to visit a gravestone in Thornton every week and she accepted it. It's single figures the amount of times I've been there. My mum and Dad go every week. That's their decision.

    They also go to the memorial every year. One of the first ones I went to, I stood on the Kop with my mouth sealed. I've never been to one since. I've vowed to never go there again unless it's for the derby.

    What struck me was the amount of people on the Kop that day. It was full. 96 people died and they give around 5 tickets to each family. I personally don't understand why you would want to be involved in something like that unless a relative or a friend had died.

    At the start of the day, we were gathered in one of their lounges. Somehow we had managed to get in the wrong place and the players walked in and stood near us. I'll never forget the sight of people standing their kids next to them and taking photographs. I was speechless. I suppose I wasn't much better with my black Everton badge on.

    My mum and dad still go to these things, but even my mum is getting a bit tired of the whole thing. My sister and auntie go and I normally give my ticket to my cousin, who was very close to Gary.

    I normally meet them in the Abbey or one of the many boozers along County Strasa afterwards. I went mad at my sister and (female) cousin for going on about being able to smell Baros' aftershave last year. A couple of years before, Berger was the object of their attention.

    I was in Sheffield recently to do with work. After I'd done what I was down there to do, I very nearly stayed on the tram to Leppings Lane. I decided not to in the end. It struck me that my brother - who I used to get a hiding off for wearing his clothes (he went off his head when he saw our Isle of Man holiday snaps and I'm standing there grinning in his Adidas top with a fish I'd caught), got another for snapping the forks on his Raleigh Bomber in Derby Park, used to laugh at me doing Southall impressions, bouncing the ball off the wall and diving full stretch across the bed - died in a strange town, at a horrible football ground, with people sitting and shouting on the spot where he drew his last breath once a fortnight and I wasn't there to help him.

    At the FA Cup Final in 1989, me and my girlfriend went. We got free tickets from LFC. I had a few bevies that day and joined isolated crowds in hurling more than a bit of abuse at the Met, who, to be fair, took it on the chin.

    The game's a bit of a blur. My girl's a Blue and I remember her being stood on her seat screaming. One thing that stands out from that day is during the minute's silence: someone started playing reggae music full blast from somewhere.

    I don't like minute silences, there's far too many of them and they're never completely silent. This clapping lark's a much better idea. The thought of armchair fans clapping at the telly is marvellous.

    A few things I'm going to leave you to chew on…

    I am an Evertonian. I live in Liverpool. I am a Scouser. What's so hard to understand about that?

    No amount of profound banners, car stickers or cheap wristbands is going to bring our Gary back.

    It's hard to explain to children why they would have had another uncle only he was killed at a football match.

    Boycotting The Sun is pointless. The lazy excuse for a journo that wrote the offending crap and the editor who let it go have probably moved on and not missed a night's kip over it. If you would read The Sun anyway without the boycott, you need to have a rethink of your worldview.

    I hope no one ever sings '96 is not enough' or anything similar near me. Then again, why would they at a match where Everton were playing?

    I hope my mother never gets to hear about other human beings singing songs about her dead son.

    Justice is never going to happen. Let it go. I'm trying really hard to. Some of you have even more reason to do so.

    I've visited Hillsborough since 1989. It was a horrible game, it rained, I sat in the home bottom bit with the Evertonians above me.

    Bakayoko shot a sitter over the bar to cap an awful day I'd sooner forget. Three points would have been nice but the game summed up that season.

    I am proud to say I have sat in Wembley and sang 'Merseyside' at a Cup Final. I've also sat on the shoulders of a huge Watford fan when they were two-nil down. I was with my dad. I'd like to take my kids to see Everton in a Cup Final one day. I'll be bloody annoyed if it's spoilt by a gang of idiots.

    I'm still with the girl who looked after me on the night of 15th of April 1989. We have three kids. I couldn't imagine how I'd feel if I lost one of them - let alone heard people singing songs about it.

    She still plies me with drink. Take it easy.
    Truly mate, I don't know what to say; and whatever I say will not be enough.

    So much of what you say makes so so much sense. No one else can understand your pain and no matter how much platitude we espouse it doesn't make your experience any easier.

    Actually, when any of my friends lost a close family member, I was obviously affected; but it was only when I lost my mother I felt the true meaning of the word 'loss'. To this day I am profoundly affected and not a single day makes it any easier.

    We all need to mourn and grieve in our own way and truly and honestly the loss is a private one. Public outpourings of sympathy has it's place where it is genuine and is in context. In the time that has passed for many people the actual events of that fateful day are a haze and they attend public events as a matter of ritual.

    Anyway, well done on finding a good woman who saw you through that day and still to this day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_on_Silver
    Truly mate, I don't know what to say; and whatever I say will not be enough.

    So much of what you say makes so so much sense. No one else can understand your pain and no matter how much platitude we espouse it doesn't make your experience any easier.

    Actually, when any of my friends lost a close family member, I was obviously affected; but it was only when I lost my mother I felt the true meaning of the word 'loss'. To this day I am profoundly affected and not a single day makes it any easier.

    We all need to mourn and grieve in our own way and truly and honestly the loss is a private one. Public outpourings of sympathy has it's place where it is genuine and is in context. In the time that has passed for many people the actual events of that fateful day are a haze and they attend public events as a matter of ritual.

    Anyway, well done on finding a good woman who saw you through that day and still to this day.
    Glad to see you took the time to read it properly then,
    This is a very emotional story and my heart goes out to him and his family however other people may wish to continue the fight.
    Here's to drinkin' with bow legged women

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    Glad he didn't.


    Cheers Nomad for taking the time to put it on the board in full. It showed a lot of respect. I'm still thinking about a lot of what was said.
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    A touching story. Nothing any of us say is going to make a difference but our thoughts are still with him and his family.
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    A friend of mine, who is a blue, lost his Dad in the tradgedy. Despite being an avid Evortan fan, still wears a red Hillborough band.
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