Reply With QuoteAnd what an assist it was, it got the 3 points.Originally Posted by CCTV
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And here we are again, not his finest game at all or anything like it, but, without Mane's movement to run in behind and stop, to move Ben White and open the channel for Jota, we don't score the first goal, it's as good as an assist, he created that channel of space for Jota to run through and Thiago to pass through
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And what an assist it was, it got the 3 points.
Koala tea
Hendo had an opportunity to win a ball by tackling, in a more central area and closer to goal.Lol
1. Robbo had to make a tackle there because otherwise there was a counter on
2. We had a lot of players ahead of him in the box
3. That came from Robbo chasing down a ball from the block from his own failed attempt on goal
4. Good pressing and play on our right had brought about the opportunity immediately before the ball came to Robbo for his shot
The pressing and counter pressing in the entire sequence leading to that goal was a combined team effort, which is the idea and how it works and without 1-4 the opportunity for Robbo to have to tackle where he did doesn't come about - Had a player attempted a tackle in that entire passage of play instead of forcing the ball to go into the area we wanted it to, 1-4 wouldn't have happened
His mental decision was to pull out when he could have little effect in any other way, other than by challenging the arsenal lad.
The arsenal lad had hesitated due to the position our other players were holding, but hendo gave up, before realising he shouldn't have given up.
By whoscored algorithm only Mane 6.4 scored lower than Hendos 6.5 of our 11 starters.
Both manifested little by the way of positive, objective impacts on the game.
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Whereas, studying the finer points of the game, Mane's movement to move Ben White and open the channel for Jota created the opportunity for our first goal to be scored, which without Mane's deliberate clever movement wouldn't have been possible
The stat obsessed dont understand the finer points
Our worst player created the possibility for our opening goal
"If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”
Koala tea
Yep, and robbo who came second in the tackles&intercepts 7, go the other assist.
It's almost like there's a connection between working hard and being lucky.
If mane wasn't so lazy last night, he'd have scored the opener.Whereas, studying the finer points of the game, Mane's movement to move Ben White and open the channel for Jota created the opportunity for our first goal to be scored, which without Mane's deliberate clever movement wouldn't have been possible
The stat obsessed dont understand the finer points
Our worst player created the possibility for our opening goal
A point you seemingly agreed with last night. But now hendos on the line, needs must.
I'd contend had he not been so lazy, and cold, he'd likely have scored from trents ball over the top too.
His run is the very minor part of Thiagos pass and Jotas goal.
Jota had done well to get inside of Cedric? Iirc and beat the keeper at his near post.
Koala tea
Not surprised you need to take away from Jota and Thiago.
As outlined with Fab v Rodri you take what you need dependent on which players are in question.
I'd bench Thiago in my best 11 for Hendo & Fab.
Both below Thiago on the whoscored algorithm just for starts.
But I can at least call out poor performances by players. It helps when you like them all and want them each to succeed.
Then the game is just about form and merit.
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It's not a minor part, it's a crucial and critical part, without the movement to open the channel, that goal doesn't happen, there's no 2 ways about it
Mane should have done better with Trent's ball over the top, got in front of the defender making sure the ball was on his left so he could take a touch which wouldn't enable the defender to make a challenge
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Koala tea
The crucial part is Jota losing his man Cedric and finding space, Thiago providing the pass and Jota scoring.
Mane is being marked by his guy, who comes over to deal with Jota who'd found the space and the finish.
Mane also spent an eternity in an offside position first half, the exact opposite of Bobby making sure he was onside for his eventual goal.
No substitute for hard work. No substitute for winning the ball and providing quality.
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Lol
And ignoring the quality of the press and counter press and hard work in the entire passage of play preceding Robbo's blocked shot that made Robbo HAVE to go to ground and tackle and find himself in a position to assist
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Koala tea
Manes movement impacting on White does little in getting the ball to Jota. Which Thiago provided. Mane & White are never in the pathway from Thiago to Jota.Lol
And ignoring the quality of the press and counter press and hard work in the entire passage of play preceding Robbo's blocked shot that made Robbo HAVE to go to ground and tackle and find himself in a position to assist
Jota has found the space getting in behind his man (not white), Thiago provides the pass and white is delayed a fraction in getting across to Jota who smashes it in past Ramsdale.
In an argument about crucial impacts you're trying to give Mane more credit than the other 2 who create and finish the chance. Watch it from behind the goal.
Bobby was pivotal in the build up to the second, Robbos determination and attitude played a big part.
Made 7 tackles/intercepts.
They're the two who get the credit of big impacts for that one.
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