Cricket World Cup

[Nineteenx]

England, seriously, what a joke, terrible captaincy and decision making by individual players, they'll be out before the semi finals

Australia, India, New Zealand and Pakistan the most likely semi finals and England sure to bottle it even if they somehow do manager to scrape through, I don't see England beating India and new Zealand as they need to, might have lost to the Aussies today anyway, it was understandable with the conditions to come out and try and pitch a little short and see if the wicket did anything to give us early breakthroughs, to when it was apparent that wasn't the case and it was costing a lot of early runs in the first 10 overs in which we knew all too well the Aussies would just focus on line and length and look to restrict scoring and make our lads get out by having to take risks to score runs it was just pure idiocy to continue with the short stuff for the full 10 opening overs, just ridiculous.

The wicket actually did do something for the Aussies in their first 10 overs, bowling line and length, so we effectively just gave the Aussies 50 cheap completely avoidable and unnecessary runs, just utter amateur hour madness

The game before we managed to preside over a famous collapse through playing shots we didn't need to when the run rate was comfortably in sight and we just needed to bat it out and keep pour wickets, just piss poor

[redebreck]

clowns

[Kev0909]

When england bat it's like they're on drugs

trying to go big on every ball

[Nineteenx]

Still makes me laugh that New Zealand have a player whose name literally in 'The big man', Pakistan hitting form now, destroying New Zealand with the ball right now.

[Nineteenx]

Still can't get over that first 10 overs v the Aussies yesterday, after 3 or 4 when you see them racking up runs from the short stuff, which they're very good at playing and having seen there is some movement in the pitch for you, surely you go line and length to restrict the scoring in the knowledge there is movement on the pitch and you might get a couple to swing either way.

A couple were unlucky, Butler really wouldn't expect to have been caught there, Stokes played an excellent innings, but got done by an absolute peach of a ball, second game in a row he's been very impressive and not one of the players who have come in with him have backed him up sufficiently

[Nineteenx]

I think part of the problem with England is they want to show everyone how good they are, instead of being more pragmatic and doing what they need to do to grind out the wins without being spectacular, the latter being the Aussies mindset

It worked very well for us in the Champions League final, we could have gone there, taken big risks looking to showcase our incredible attacking football, but we looked how Spurs were set up purely to try and counter us, took a pragmatic approach, didn't play anything like our best football, were outstanding defensively and got a thoroughly deserved win and No6

[Nineteenx]

Pakistan are at it now Hafeez just out for trying to whack a ball he really didn't have to, comfortably up with the run rate, keep the wickets in hand, keep the runs ticking over as they had been, easy win, but no, he has to do a Moeen and try and needlessly whack one

[Nineteenx]

There you go, Pakistan show England how it should be done, Babar notches 100, the first century by a Pakistan batsman in 30 years of WC, under immense pressure, using his head and skill, playing at balls that were there to be hit, not slashing at ones he didn't need to as they kept in check with the required rate, his innings only consisting of four 4's and made up of singles 2's and 3's across the entire 'wagon wheel', all England's batsmen had to do v Sri Lanka, rather than slash wildly constantly trying to hit 4's and 6's at balls they didn't need to hit at all.

[Nineteenx]

And today we have South Africa also showing England how it should be done, very similar situation to England's recent game v Sri Lanka, bowled them out for a low target, lost an early wicket in response but no panic, not a massive run rate required, both batsmen playing themselves in, taking their time, not looking to smash every ball to the boundary or unnecessarily trying to smash balls to the boundary they don't need to go after, just keeping the runs ticking over and wickets in hand

[Nineteenx]

Pakistan AGAIN show England how it's done and how not to throw your wickets away needlessly trying to smash balls to the boundary when you're up with the run chase, Pakistan move ahead of England to fourth in the table

[Nineteenx]

England, seriously, what a joke, terrible captaincy and decision making by individual players, they'll be out before the semi finals

Australia, India, New Zealand and Pakistan the most likely semi finals and England sure to bottle it even if they somehow do manager to scrape through, I don't see England beating India and new Zealand as they need to, might have lost to the Aussies today anyway, it was understandable with the conditions to come out and try and pitch a little short and see if the wicket did anything to give us early breakthroughs, to when it was apparent that wasn't the case and it was costing a lot of early runs in the first 10 overs in which we knew all too well the Aussies would just focus on line and length and look to restrict scoring and make our lads get out by having to take risks to score runs it was just pure idiocy to continue with the short stuff for the full 10 opening overs, just ridiculous.

The wicket actually did do something for the Aussies in their first 10 overs, bowling line and length, so we effectively just gave the Aussies 50 cheap completely avoidable and unnecessary runs, just utter amateur hour madness

The game before we managed to preside over a famous collapse through playing shots we didn't need to when the run rate was comfortably in sight and we just needed to bat it out and keep pour wickets, just piss poor

I really should have put a bet on that four being the four semi finalists, called it when it still would have been decent odds, thought long and hard about it and never got around to it, doh

[Nineteenx]

What the FUCK are England doing here? Brilliant start, then revert to playing stupid fucking shots that aren't on, first Bairstow and now Morgan, ridiculously do from Morgan, should have just got himself in, what a moron, hopefully Stokes and Root will play sensibly now and get England to a decent target of 320 plus

[Nineteenx]

What the FUCK are England doing here? Brilliant start, then revert to playing stupid fucking shots that aren't on, first Bairstow and now Morgan, ridiculously do from Morgan, should have just got himself in, what a moron, hopefully Stokes and Root will play sensibly now and get England to a decent target of 320 plus

Got more than that, but 320 plus was enough as I estimated

[Nineteenx]

Got to say Bairstow is a totally different player when he opens with Roy, picks his shots a lot better because he knows Roy's going to be going hard, once Roy went off and Bairstow again had the pressure of giving England the impetus, he went back to his bad old ways

[Nineteenx]

Well, lucky I didn't make that bet, looks like England have scraped through after all, big question now is having had some massive hiccups throughout and now seemingly having recovered, DO they have the mental strength and bravery to go on and win it?

Edit: Very pleased to have been proved wrong on this one :)

[Kev0909]

Not everyone destroys NZ

Brilliant, better at cricket than football, which is weird considering football is by far the most popular sport.

[Nineteenx]

Finally! An England national team through to a World Cup final! They were superb today, Morgan was faultless as captain, the bowling and fielding was superb, then the batting was superb and continued to be after Roy was incorrectly given out. England absolutely thrashed the Aussies today, they were aided by the Aussies decision to bat first, the conditions and dampness in the pitch giving England's bowlers a fair amount of swing and movement off the pitch in their first 10 overs, when Australia came to bowl, the ball did nothing :D

[Kev0909]

Finally! An England national team through to a World Cup final! They were superb today, Morgan was faultless as captain, the bowling and fielding was superb, then the batting was superb and continued to be after Roy was incorrectly given out. England absolutely thrashed the Aussies today, they were aided by the Aussies decision to bat first, the conditions and dampness in the pitch giving England's bowlers a fair amount of swing and movement off the pitch in their first 10 overs, when Australia came to bowl, the ball did nothing :D

What a turnaround after a few dodgy games early on.

Bit special this england team.

hope we can go onto win it.

[Nineteenx]

What a turnaround after a few dodgy games early on.

Bit special this england team.

hope we can go onto win it.

All about the bottle now, really hope they can win the final, they are a bit like our team though, great first 11 and aside from midfield, not quite the same dynamic and level of performance if anyone else has to come in, Bairstow strained his groin today, so hopefully, it's just a tweak and he'll be ok for the final. With their best 11 out they are the best team in the tournament

[redebreck]

ICC Men's Cricket World Cup final - England v New Zealand
Venue: Lord's. Dates: Sunday, 14 July. Time: 10:30 BST
Coverage: Ball-by-ball Test Match Special commentary on BBC Radio 5 Live, Radio 4 LW, online, tablets, mobiles and BBC Sport app. Live text commentary on the BBC Sport website. Live TV coverage on Channel 4 & Sky Sports

I'm glad it's live on CH4, not just Sky - everyone should have the chance to see it!

[Nineteenx]

Hope our lads can win the final, they should do, they're a better team, a hell of a lot of luck involved in cricket though, you can be up against it and at a disadvantage just by losing the toss depending on the pitch and conditions.

Like the semi, I think the Aussies chose to bat because England have struggled in the tournament when they've had to chase a total, even mediocre ones, but as it turned out they did England a big favour as the overcast conditions and slight dampness in the pitch gave England a lot of movement for the seamers in the first 10-15 overs, that gave England the early wickets that saw the Aussies achieve such a dismal total, then when they came to bat it had brightened up a bit and the pitch had dried out a bit and the ball was doing nothing off the seam

[redebreck]

NZ 114 -2 off 26 overs

interesting to see how this develops

[Nineteenx]

Well, New Zealand chose to bat first, ok start by England, bowlers not quite found their length yet, or rather not mixed it up enough throwing a couple in at the length where there is some movement, three good wickets taken, Plunkett with 2 of them, doing just that, England's only bowler who's been on song, with the opening bowlers going too much short stuff where it wasn't moving in the opening 10 overs and letting new Zealand get a decent start, could do with a couple more quick wickets now, come on England

[RedNoodle]

Cricket, Tennis and F1. Three sports played by and watched by toffs, pretend toffs and those with lots of money.

Give me the darts over any of these any/every day.

[redebreck]

219 - 6 off 46.5 overs, looks promising for England.

[redebreck]

Cricket, Tennis and F1. Three sports played by and watched by toffs, pretend toffs and those with lots of money.

Give me the darts over any of these any/every day.

not far wrong there, Noods.
I must be in the "those with lots of money" category cos I like cricket a bit - Lancashire
LOLZ :) LMFHO

[RedNoodle]

not far wrong there, Noods.
I must be in the "those with lots of money" category cos I like cricket a bit - Lancashire
LOLZ :) LMFHO

Only you will know which category you belong to. ;)

[redebreck]

NZ finish on 241 - 8

Reasonable target for England to aim at.

Am I a toff? Pretend toff? Lots of money? No, No, Thrice No, Lurcio.

[RedNoodle]

NZ finish on 241 - 8

Reasonable target for England to aim at.

Am I a toff? Pretend toff? Lots of money? No, No, Thrice No, Lurcio.

You would be if you were at the ground. Watching on TV doesn't count.

[Nineteenx]

NZ finish on 241 - 8

Reasonable target for England to aim at.


Could be a toughish chase, New Zealand have learnt the ball is getting movement in that area it did for England, they're trying to put it right there, up to Roy and Bairstow not to let them. Thought England's bowler's weren't at their best today, too much short stuff and not enough variation in the opening 10-15 overs, it was only really after that England's bowler's found bowling a little fuller was producing movement, so New Zealand have the benefit of that in their first 10-15. Too many sloppy wides, on a better bowling day England really should have restricted New Zealand to 210-220. Hopefully restricting them to 241 is enough and Roy, who is due a ton and Bairstow can get a really good start above the required run rate and get 150 plus without loss

[Nineteenx]

Roy gone :eek: that movement's there for New Zealand and Roy gets done by a fine outswinger from Henry

[Nineteenx]

Think England are guilty of not going after the bowlers like they were in the loss to Sri Lanka so far, New Zealand are getting more movement than England's bowlers did so far. Not a massive run rate to chase, can pick anything loose for a 4 and look to pick up a single or two at this stage, not really how or why England have been successful though

[Nineteenx]

Hmmmm not sure about this one at all, England sitting back in their crease allowing New Zealand's bowlers to dictate to them, get into rythm and bowl the length it's moving on that England didn't do enough of, really need to get after the bowlers and stop that

[RedNoodle]

England proving once more that when it comes to the so called 'national' sports, they are massive bottle jobs.

[Kev0909]

Long way to go yet, still 50/50 in my eyes

If these 2 go before we're close then yeah we've lost

Buttler and stokes stay we're fine

[Kev0909]

They're doing brilliant

[Kev0909]

fucking hell you need to go for it lads

Buttler a big loss

[redebreck]

England proving once more that when it comes to the so called 'national' sports, they are massive bottle jobs.

it's close
can't help thinking they were over-confident after the NZ innings - cocky, even.

[Kev0909]

Oh dear oh dear

[RedNoodle]

it's close
can't help thinking they were over-confident after the NZ innings - cocky, even.

As they always are. One day the teams/players/managers/media will learn to keep quiet until the trophy has been won.

[Kev0909]

Miracle needed now NZ fielding are unreal

[Kev0909]

another 6 please

[redebreck]

jammy six

[Kev0909]

ok stokes.. come on mate do the unthinkable

[Kev0909]

What a game

UNREAL

[Kev0909]

oh my days, superover!!!!!

What a way to finish the world cup!!!

[redebreck]

England lose by one run?

No, it's tied!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kev0909]

England lose by one run

no they don't its a draw going to a superover

can't you read?

they're exactly the same on runs = superover

[Kev0909]

England get 15 not too shabby

Next up NZ

So tense

[RedNoodle]

I hope Archer bowls a lot better than he bats.

[Kev0909]

I hope Archer bowls a lot better than he bats.

well that's how it normally works in cricket lol

One or the other

[RedNoodle]

well that's how it normally works in cricket lol

One or the other

I know. I still think all cricketers should be able to bat to a reasonable standard.

[Kev0909]

I know. I still think all cricketers should be able to bat to a reasonable standard.

To be fair he only faced one ball and had to go for it

was running out of time, so lucky with the 6 we got from hitting stokes on the way back to go for a 4

Not sure why they've chosen the youngest lad in this situation if i'm honest to bowl this last over

[RedNoodle]

To be fair he only faced one ball and had to go for it

was running out of time, so lucky with the 6 we got from hitting stokes on the way back to go for a 4

They were lucky with two sixes. The one where he fell over the boundary and the one when the batsman hit the ball when diving for the crease.

[RedNoodle]

And he immediately bowls a wide. He supposed to be a professional ffs! I'd be p*ssed if I ever bowled a wide.

And NZ make him pay with a six. What a plum!

[Kev0909]

And he immediately bowls a wide. He supposed to be a professional ffs! I'd be p*ssed if I ever bowled a wide.

And NZ make him pay with a six. What a plum!

Stupid decision to pick him he's only 18 and thrown into this situation

[Kev0909]

WOW misfield you fucking kidding me

[RedNoodle]

Stupid decision to pick him he's only 18 and thrown into this situation

Exactly what I was thinking. Utter stupidity.

[Kev0909]

last ball they need 2 what a game this has been

[RedNoodle]

Lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky x 543647658768654 England.

[Kev0909]

wow

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

that was some game

(p.s noods he is 24 swear they said 18, still youngest bowler i think)

[toneata]

What a finish, incredible!

If only more sport was on terrestrial TV.

[RedNoodle]

wow

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

that was some game

(p.s noods he is 24 swear they said 18, still youngest bowler i think)

I'm sure I heard someone say he was 18 as well.

[RedNoodle]

What a finish, incredible!

If only more sport was on terrestrial TV.

Those days are long gone. Expect there to be fewer and fewer major sporting events on terrestrial tv in future. The Open starts on Thursday and it's on Sky. That alone sums things up.

[redebreck]

no they don't its a draw going to a superover

can't you read?

they're exactly the same on runs = superover

thought it was decided by number of wickets lost - my mistake

[Kev0909]

thought it was decided by number of wickets lost - my mistake

understandable

Doesn't exactly happen all the time

madness

[Nineteenx]

Thrashed them! :D Thought England were the better side, had luck 'at the death' but New Zealand gained an incredible advantage from the weather, with it warming up and staying overcast the ball moved a hell of a lot more for their bowlers in a far greater area of the wicket, made for a great game, but had the cloud broken, the sun come out and New Zealand not had that weather benefit for fully 25 overs, England would have walked it

About time a senior England men's team won a world cup

[southernboy]

I fucking love sport.

[CCTV]

What a finish, incredible!

If only more sport was on terrestrial TV.

Its brilliant isn't it, should all be free to air imo and make the money off advertisers. Then sky/bt for all the indepth pre and post match crap.


Those days are long gone. Expect there to be fewer and fewer major sporting events on terrestrial tv in future. The Open starts on Thursday and it's on Sky. That alone sums things up.

See the 6 nations is no longer exclusively free to air, suspect that will mean we see it go to sky/bt in the not so distant future.

[CCTV]

Well in England and enjoy the celebrations :)

Brexit has been brilliant for English sport :D

[CCTV]

not far wrong there, Noods.
I must be in the "those with lots of money" category cos I like cricket a bit - Lancashire
LOLZ :) LMFHO

WRONG !!! How outdated :)

Cricket is the sport of fair weather drinking, music and poets, served with a slice of green around the world :D

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RvgFF3yEwc8

i75ljJp9N0U

[ianlfc]

Which part of England is Eion Morgan from ? I cant puy my finger on that Accent 😂😂😂
World champions in a sport of about 6 😂😂

[Clungeman]

Well in England and enjoy the celebrations :)

Brexit has been brilliant for English sport :D

Jacob? Is that you?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/14/not-cricket-jacob-rees-mogg-criticised

[CCTV]

Jacob? Is that you?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/14/not-cricket-jacob-rees-mogg-criticised

Yes, Alastair :)

Funny article.

[justme]

Ashes to start in a few minutes, Australia to bat first!

[redebreck]

Ashes to start in a few minutes, Australia to bat first!

new thread needed - it's the ashes not the World Cup!
tut, tut

[justme]

you open it then am not arsed

[ShermanKat]

Anyone else following the world cup?

Its down to the semi finals now, I think
Sri Lanka against New Zealand on the 23rd
South Africa against Autralia the 25th

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Ive only watched the games in which SA played, and I enjoyed most of them.

Oh
Australia is undefeated to far
South Africa lost against both New Zealand and Australia but beat Sri Lanka
New Zealand lost against Australia and Sri Lanka
Sri Lanka Lost against South Africa and Australia, but won against New Zealand