Liverpool v Sheffield United (Match Thread)

[RedNoodle]

Liverpool

Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Fabinho, Robertson, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Salah, Firmino, Jota, Mane.

Subs: Adrian, Milner, Jones, Minamino, Shaqiri, Phillips, Williams.

Sheffield United

Ramsdale, Baldock, Basham, Egan, Ampadu, Stevens, Berge, Lundstram, Osborn, McBurnie, Brewster.

Subs: Verrips, Sharp, Burke, Jagielka, Norwood, McGoldrick, Robinson.

Referee

Mike Dean.

[Nineteenx]

Allison

Trent Fabinho Gomez Robertson

Wijnaldum Henderson Jota

Salah Firmino Mane

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get the win here today and another vital 3 points

[justme]

Nice solid start and take it from there

[Artisan]

Lots of pace in our starting lineup, 3pts and a clean sheet would be perfect.

[southernboy]

More than £73,000 raised already by fans donating to @SFoodbanks rather than paying £14.95 to watch.

https://donorbox.org/fanssupportingfoodbanks5years

[miller0863]

My stream just lined us up in a 4-2-3-1 with Salah up front

[Nineteenx]

Kick off imminent Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, start well, control the game, nick yourselves a couple of goals, get the win and another vital 3 points here tonight

[redebreck]

Rhian Brewster starting for Sheffield!

[CCTV]

Allison

Trent Fabinho Gomez Robertson

Wijnaldum Henderson Jota

Salah Firmino Mane

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get the win here today and another vital 3 points

Says we're playing 4231 on the offal :D

[Kev0909]

Jota's a CM now?

[skyebo]

Rhian Brewster starting for Sheffield!

He won't do anything against us. He's the latest Solanke.

[RedNoodle]

Mane just needed to get a bit more on that.

[RedNoodle]

Lundstrum is booked for a lunge on Salah.

[RedNoodle]

TAA nearly beats the keeper from the halfway line.

[miller0863]

Three good chances in the first three minutes

[Kev0909]

we're on it tonight

[miller0863]

Their best chance to score must surely be from dead balls, need to keep them to a minimum

[dicko1969]

My stream just lined us up in a 4-2-3-1 with Salah up front
Where ... ?

[miller0863]

They sound Russian ...ish

[RedNoodle]

Mike Dean and Andre Mariner already trying to screw us over by giving Sheffield United a non penalty.

What a bunch of ****s.

[Pigsy]

Give up, this game is fixed.

[Nineteenx]

VAR upgrade a foul that wasn't a foul on the edge of the area, Fabinho winning the ball, to a penalty 1-0 Sheffield United

[Balinkay]

Bwoaaaaaah - the attacker's sole is on the line but the point of contact with his boot is clearly outside the box.

Fuck off with these decisions.

[3underpar]

Pls keep defending VAR

[Kev0909]

Oh here we gooo

Get strapped in lads gonna be a long night

[RedNoodle]

I'm sorry but if anyone says that there isn't something 'fishy' going on, they are talking sloblocks. :mad:

[LEGS]

I agree Noods thats 2 weeks running

[Artisan]

Here we go again...

[eggy81]

On course for a 50 goal conceded season at this rate.

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool Just get on with it and get yourselves level here now

[justme]

Clearly outside the box.. just blatant cheating

[RedNoodle]

Pls keep defending VAR

It's not VAR that's the problem, it's the refs, rule makers, and those using VAR that are the problem. ****s the lot of em. :mad:

[CCTV]

Come Salah score a quick equaliser please

Var.... :(

[southernboy]

That’s what you get when you complain to the premier league. Utter incompetence.

[CCTV]

That’s what you get when you complain to the premier league. Utter incompetence.

The banana league !!

[CCTV]

Jota unlucky that his slide pass for Salah clipped off Mos leg

[RedNoodle]

As soon as I saw who were officiating our game today and knew we were in big trouble.

[miller0863]

BBC text summary


“Liverpool 0-0 Sheffield United
That's very hard to see either way. I think it's just outsi... no!

Going to be another one where only the officials see it that way

[3underpar]

It's not VAR that's the problem, it's the refs, rule makers, and those using VAR that are the problem. ****s the lot of em. :mad:

Actually VAR is a problem. It’s the clearest tool to make ridiculous decisions in a daily basis now by an incompetent league and its officials and it’s killing the game.

[skyebo]

As soon as I saw who were officiating our game today and knew we were in big trouble.

If we have to rely on referees to give us all the decisions, maybe we aren't as good as what we think.

[Crimson Dynasty]

That high line is going to kill us again in this game if we're not careful.

[miller0863]

Skyebo that is utter nonsense

[RedNoodle]

BBC text summary


“Liverpool 0-0 Sheffield United
That's very hard to see either way. I think it's just outsi... no!

Going to be another one where only the officials see it that way

They've also just tried to make out that we've been 'lucky' by pointing out that it's the first penalty we've faced at Anfield in over two years.

[eggy81]

We are so far off our best this season bar the arsenal game. Back four susceptible to anything angled over the top. Pen was harsh, clearance that led to it disgraceful

[CCTV]

Scary moment there

[southernboy]

Regardless of the VAR decision, this has been a pretty poor start from us.

[Kev0909]

Regardless of the VAR decision, this has been a pretty poor start from us.

we was good for 3 mins

[Nineteenx]

This 4231 is a mess, Mane's too far away from goal, when Robbo's coming forward there's no-one where Mane usually is for him to link with, there's no Mane or Mo on for the switches, and our press, well, what press, it's unfortunately all the things I said it would be so far, the short version, a shit idea

[Crimson Dynasty]

Sheffield getting the lion's share of the chances here.

Not the reaction I expected from our team after that penalty decision.

[RedNoodle]

If we have to rely on referees to give us all the decisions, maybe we aren't as good as what we think.

We aren't relying on that, but it does seem like we are being screwed over by incompetent officials. That is going to make things a lot harder, verging on impossible for us.

[Nineteenx]

Regardless of the VAR decision, this has been a pretty poor start from us.

What do you expect when you change the system and move the players from their best positions where they have all played for most of the last 2 seasons?

[skyebo]

Skyebo that is utter nonsense

So is saying referees are out to sabotage us in games.

[Kev0909]

is brewster trying to help us?

[RedNoodle]

That high line is going to kill us again in this game if we're not careful.

Which is why we/Klopp need to be a bit more flexible i.e. a change in approach, utilising an out and out DM etc.

[miller0863]

Whether they are out to or not, they most certainly have in the last game and this so far.

[RedNoodle]

So is saying referees are out to sabotage us in games.

Would you be surprised if that was the case? I know I wouldn't be.

[southernboy]

What do you expect when you change the system and move the players from their best positions where they have all played for most of the last 2 seasons?

I expect us not to be put under the cosh by Sheffield United. Alisson has been our best player so far.

[Kev0909]

I expect us not to be put under the cosh by Sheffield United. Alisson has been our best player so far.

Don't worry i'm sure firmino will score a hat-trick

[Crimson Dynasty]

Passing around at the back like we don't know what to do with it in their half.

Doing me head in, this.

[eggy81]

Were so lazy ahead of the ball. Even the touches of the cbs under no pressure is too lax.

[miller0863]

Over half an hour since we had an effort on goal

[LFC-DPG]

Don't worry i'm sure firmino will score a hat-trick

Ha that was a genuine laugh out loud moment.

[RedNoodle]

We could do with a midfielder or two who can chip in with a few goals, especially a few from outside the box.

[Nineteenx]

Where all over the place in this new shape, we have no rhythm or consistent movement, our usually phenomenal left side is not threatening in the slightest as players aren't in their usual positions making their usual runs

[skyebo]

We could do with a midfielder or two who can chip in with a few goals, especially a few from outside the box.

I've been saying that since Gerrard left. If Mane or Salah dry up, we're in trouble.

[southernboy]

The problem with VAR is still the inconsistency. Just look at what Maguire got away with earlier.

That’s no excuse for us being dogshite mind.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Honestly, it wouldn't have surprised me if VAR had given a penalty for that one (the Berger one) as well.

[teesred]

All over the shop. Nervy at the back, losing pretty much every aerial battle and not looking like we will create a thing.
Another game against a lesser side where we seem to be struggling to raise our game for it.

[Kev0909]

Booooom

he's fucking done it the hat-trick is on

[miller0863]

Who scored that Kev?

[CCTV]

Come on Salah a bit more energy please

[RedNoodle]

Get in Bobby!!!!!

[skyebo]

Where all over the place in this new shape, we have no rhythm or consistent movement, our usually phenomenal left side is not threatening in the slightest as players aren't in their usual positions making their usual runs

If things aren't working in their present positions, they should be changing it themselves, they shouldn't need Klopp telling them, he's on the sidelines.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Did someone say something about a Firmino hat-trick?

[Kev0909]

Who scored that Kev?

well we could of scored that but yes not the point

hat-trick is on

But he's the worlds best player now ;)

[RedNoodle]

It's a good job that was offside as Mo should have buried that.

[CCTV]

If things aren't working in their present positions, they should be changing it themselves, they shouldn't need Klopp telling them, he's on the sidelines.

Well said.

Good to see Bobby score 1-1

[miller0863]

Lollz

[Nineteenx]

Bobby scores 1-1 after their keeper can only parry a Mane header from a brilliant cross from Captain fantastic Hendo

Papering over the cracks if I'm honest, Jurgen needs to hook Jota at HT, get Milner on at RCM and revert to our 433 this has been a disaster so far

[Kev0909]

think we'll win this 3-1 now

[southernboy]

I genuinely thought VAR would find a way to rule it out.

Let’s get to halftime and start again.

[CCTV]

think we'll win this 3-1 now

Eh, fook off, no chance !!

[RedNoodle]

I genuinely thought VAR would find a way to rule it out.

Let’s get to halftime and start again.

Ditto.

Perhaps they thought they'd let us have that one, safe in the knowledge that they'll screw us over again in the second half.

[Kev0909]

fantastic half of football

[miller0863]

Relieved to be level at half time. Need to change the set up at half time

[eggy81]

I'm normally a big fan but wij is having a terrible game so far. Playing everything at a snails pace.

[southernboy]

Clarification from the Premier League re; Shef Utd penalty that was awarded. VAR only ruled on whether the incident was inside or outside the box, not on whether a foul took place or not.

... and they got that wrong

[RedNoodle]

Relieved to be level at half time. Need to change the set up at half time

I agree, but I doubt the FA/PL can, never mind would want to get a new set of officials to Anfield and Stockley Park.

[RedNoodle]

I'm normally a big fan but wij is having a terrible game so far. Playing everything at a snails pace.

He's having one of his anon/awol games.

[LFC vs PFC]

I thought VAR had the power to ask the ref to check if it's a wrong decision. Perhaps not clear and obvious.

[Crimson Dynasty]

I'm normally a big fan but wij is having a terrible game so far. Playing everything at a snails pace.

That's almost how he always plays.

All our promising attacks go to die at his feet.

He either runs into a wall of opposition defenders, or inexplicably turns back to look for a pass in the midfield when a teammate is making a run in the wing behind him with nothing by open space.

[Kev0909]

No wonder a lot more goals happen now, defenders are to scared to try and tackle, because even if they touch the ball first, it's still a foul/penalty or whatever

Crazy

How many midfielders do we have injured atm for only Milner and jones to be options on bench?

3?

[LFC vs PFC]

Agreed.
This looks like one of those arrogant games where we think just turning ul is good enough.
Even though he's stunk out the place recently, the game is crying out for Keith to run at them.

[Crimson Dynasty]

He's having one of his anon/awol games.

Weird.
At Anfield?

I was led to believe that this was almost never the case.

Was I lied to?

[Balinkay]

Apparently VAR only ruled whether or not it was in the box, not if it's a foul.

And they also somehow missed what looked a far better shout for the Blades later on...

Fortunate to be at 1-1 right now. Very fortunate. We need to step it up.

[LEGS]

As daft as it sounds we have too many attacking players on the pitch.

Some are getting in the way of each other.

Although it wasnt a peno we are quite lucky to be level.

My biggest worry is the officials after last week and today so far its got me on edge.

[CCTV]

Clarification from the Premier League re; Shef Utd penalty that was awarded. VAR only ruled on whether the incident was inside or outside the box, not on whether a foul took place or not.

... and they got that wrong

You have to laugh !

[teesred]

Out fought in every area, they're trying to be physical and throw their weight around . Especially poor in midfield, Gomez looks like hes a mistake waiting to happen. Surely Klopp knows he has to change this as that midfield has been a shit show.

[SydneyLFC]

Midfield not working and Mane AWOL because of it. Mane skinned defender in first minutes - we need to revert to more orthodox game play

[RedNoodle]

Danny 'the ****' Mills saying that it was a penalty, no discussion.

The guy is such a massive ****, as is the likes of Trevor Sinclair who was doing the previous game.

[Nineteenx]

Well, that was an absolute disaster of a half, really insane idea to change the system, we've been all over the place, reminds me of that Atletico first leg when Hendo was shifted out to RCM and all the players were making their usual runs expecting to be found and weren't, no switch balls even on all game because there aren't any forwards in the positions we play them to, no link up between the forwards and full backs, we keep getting caught trying to play through and aren't moving the opposition around with our switches as usual and against a better side, with our offering so many opportunities for transitions and counters getting caught trying to play through we'd be well behind

Over to Jurgen to work his half time magic as ever, hopefully by reverting to our 433

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, let's be A LOT better second half, we couldn't be much worse to be fair, lucky to be level at HT

[justme]

Ridiculous call on the penalty a foot outside the box..idiots

[CCTV]

Jota & Bobby linked up well a few times, would like to see more from Mo.
Struggled to view the game so far

[Nineteenx]

Out fought in every area, they're trying to be physical and throw their weight around . Especially poor in midfield, Gomez looks like hes a mistake waiting to happen. Surely Klopp knows he has to change this as that midfield has been a shit show.

We're all over the place because we've changed the formation and it's been an absolute disaster, we're lucky not be be a further 2 goals behind

[eggy81]

I'm on bein sports. What are the rest of ye watching on.

[RedNoodle]

I thought VAR had the power to ask the ref to check if it's a wrong decision. Perhaps not clear and obvious.

The ref is hiding behind var, who themselves are hiding behind the ref.

They need to take responsibility for their actions, or lack of.

[miller0863]

It’s a complete mess Noods

[justme]

we need to drop off a bit and try to get them pushing to far up and break on them. The problem we are competing physically .player on player and still playing an high line when we lose out physically we are getting caught at the back

[RedNoodle]

It’s a complete mess Noods

I think that's a massive understatement. It doesn't surprise me, but it still infuriates the hell out of me.

[miller0863]

That challenge by Maguire today not a penalty but this one is??? And officials don’t decide matches??

Utter nonsense

[southernboy]

My stream is from Astro.

Both Stephen Warnock and Gary Stevens think that Fab won the ball outside the box. So what is Andre Marina seeing?

[miller0863]

Post a link anyone? Mine’s died

[jr81]

My stream is from Astro.

Both Stephen Warnock and Gary Stevens think that Fab won the ball outside the box. So what is Andre Marina seeing?
Michael Owen and Ryan Giggs both think it was a penalty. They said the trailing leg coming through the back is the foul.

[teesred]

Ridiculous call on the penalty a foot outside the box..idiots

It's a disgrace. its not even a foul let alone a penalty. How many times is VAR going to be allowed to get things so blatantly wrong.

[Balinkay]

It's a disgrace. its not even a foul let alone a penalty. How many times is VAR going to be allowed to get things so blatantly wrong.

VAR is a tool. It's the people running it.

[SydneyLFC]

It’s not VAR - it’s the same problem shite referees who are not capable - they need a revamp and instead of being @dropped” for a game, they need to be sent for retraining fro a season.

[justme]

That challenge by Maguire today not a penalty but this one is??? And officials don’t decide matches??

Utter nonsense
If your looking at replays and you can see its outside the box.. Makes you wonder why they gave the penalty? I just don't get it other than its blatant cheating

[Balinkay]

Going against the grain here - I actually think the PL refs are pretty damn capable. At least in comparison to other leagues'. Can't imagine them being much better anywhere else in Europe.

[eggy81]

Both lads on irish TV say nonpen.

[Kev0909]

Going against the grain here - I actually think the PL refs are pretty damn capable.

Scumbag

how dare you

[justme]

It's a disgrace. its not even a foul let alone a penalty. How many times is VAR going to be allowed to get things so blatantly wrong.

Mental ain't it

[RedNoodle]

Apparent VAR only checked whether the 'foul' was inside or outside the box, NOT whether it was actually a foul in the first place.

Such incompetence.

[southernboy]

Michael Owen and Ryan Giggs both think it was a penalty. They said the trailing leg coming through the back is the foul.

I wouldn’t trust either of them. But it does highlight the fact that VAR is still only opinions. There’s no science or technology being used per se.

[Crimson Dynasty]

VAR is a tool. It's the people running it.

They're tools too.

In the figurative* sense.

(*....and pejorative sense)

[jr81]

Both lads on irish TV say nonpen.

What channel?

[CCTV]

Should be better second half after Klopps halftime chat.
Expect the tempo to be raised

[Nineteenx]

Second half imminent, hopefully changes are made to ensure our best players are in their customary best positions so the pressing, the link ups, link play and switches will return to something like we expect as it was all entirely non existent that half

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, let's be A LOT better this half, get ourselves ahead early and go on to get the win and another vital 3 points

[jr81]

I wouldn’t trust either of them. But it does highlight the fact that VAR is still only opinions. There’s no science or technology being used per se.

They didn't even discuss VAR. They both said foot was on the line so that's in the box, so no issue there. They were debating if it was a foul and both said yes due to the trailing leg. Shows there can be so many opinions on 1 decision.

[CCTV]

What channel?

Premier Sports (1 or 2)

[RedNoodle]

I wouldn’t trust either of them. But it does highlight the fact that VAR is still only opinions. There’s no science or technology being used per se.

Owen called him "Giggsy" earlier, rather than his actual name i.e. Ryan "sister in law shagger' Giggs.

[miller0863]

Sheff Utd playing to their strengths and making it a battle

[Kev0909]

We're like a bunch of school kids against adults

So so soft.

[Nineteenx]

Quick look at the stats from last season when we met a Sheffield UTD side who were flying and pushing for top four

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/match/2019-20/first-team/liverpool-v-sheffield-united-live-matchday-blog 3 shots all game

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here now

[RedNoodle]

Just hit it Robertson!!!

[Kev0909]

Come on firmino get on this from the corner make it 2!

[CCTV]

Hendon with a good cross for Mane who really should take it down but loses the flight of the ball, balls recycled by trent and robbo tries to pass with an option to shoot on his right foot.
2 half chances

[Nineteenx]

Sheff Utd playing to their strengths and making it a battle

We're letting them by trying to play through them instead of around them, using the switches, stretching them

[CCTV]

Salah with a fair few touches and a 1-2 but couldn't get a shot off , from the following corner he hits one just off target

[eggy81]

What channel?
Premier sports 1

[Kev0909]

everyone enjoying the game?

[CCTV]

Hendo again trying to find Mane whose caught on his heels a touch

[Kev0909]

is it shaqiri shaqiri time yet?

[Steveo]

everyone enjoying the game?

Sounds like a riot... I am not paying 15 Squids though

[eggy81]

everyone enjoying the game?

I seriously think hunger and complacency are issues for us so far this season.

[southernboy]

Sexy Asian women looking for older men in Doncaster

I get that they can see my location, but how do they know I’m an old git?

(Yup, the ads are better than the footie.

[skyebo]

is it shaqiri shaqiri time yet?

I'd bring Minamino and Jones on before him.

[teesred]

everyone enjoying the game?

Turgid

[Crimson Dynasty]

Allisson trying to make it interesting at the back and remind Adrian who's boss around here and that if anyone's going to give the fans heart attacks, it's going to be the Number 1 Goalie.

[Kev0909]

Sexy Asian women looking for older men in Doncaster

I get that they can see my location, but how do they know I’m an old git?

(Yup, the ads are better than the footie.

Why is it always asian women that's what i wanna know- is it a sterotype??

Many young english chav lass's who have had 10 baby's would love a sugardaddy

[Kev0909]

Waaaaaait for it guys it's coming

[Kev0909]

Oh will you fuck off

[eggy81]

Fuckinh offside. Fucking var needs to be fucked off.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Peachy!

[RedNoodle]

Oh FFS!!! :mad:

[Kev0909]

gettttttt in

[Nineteenx]

Mo scores a belter but it's ruled out for offside and unlike the Mane assist for hendo last week, it was a fraction offside this time

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here now

[eggy81]

Yesssss Diogo

[CCTV]

everyone enjoying the game?

Getting to see all of the football this half so far.

Salah 101 - with a cracking finish

Var to try and rule it out and they do for offside

[southernboy]

They actually got that one right unfortunately. You do have to wonder why the linesman didn’t put his flag up mind.

[RedNoodle]

Rule that one out you ****s!!!!!!!!!!!

Get in Jota!!!!!

[CCTV]

Yesssss Diogo

Can't wait .. must .. has var killed it ?

[CCTV]

They actually got that one right unfortunately. You do have to wonder why the linesman didn’t put his flag up mind.

They're told to let it play and allow var to call the tight one. The Everton game was the exception to the rule.

[RedNoodle]

Can't wait .. must .. has var killed it ?

The FA/PL/PGMOL are going through the rules to try and find a way to rule it out as we speak.

[Kev0909]

not that i'm complaining but that was some great defending by sheff utd lols

[Nineteenx]

Booooom get the fucking FUCK in, in the last 10 minutes Mane who aside from getting on the end of hendo's cross had been none existent having previously been in incredible form has reverted to playing where he usually does, out at LFWD, constantly testing the oppositions RCB and he delivers an inch perfect centre for Jota to head home 2-1

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, keep going, keep control, nick yourselves a third here now if you can

[3underpar]

Nice header Jota

[skyebo]

At last, a midfield player who finds the net. We should have him stuffed.

[teesred]

Boom etc. Let's get some more. Please.
I've got one of those LFC facemasks that Kenny's wearing, they're really itchy.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Even Kenny's bored in the stands there, reading himself a book.

(....or is that the program schedule?)

[CCTV]

Trent nearly sets Salah off, shu defender does well

[CCTV]

Fabinho caught playing the ball slowly, comes to nowt

[Kev0909]

At last, a midfield player who finds the net. We should have him stuffed.

I'm still getting over the shock firmino scored. I mean it was hard not to but still.

[CCTV]

Gomez dribbles himself out of possession, Salah nearly intercepts a backwards pass to a defender

[Crimson Dynasty]

I'd like for us to get one more at least because you know that Sheffield are just exactly the sort of 'smash-and-grab' type team that will pull off a freaky goal at the last minute against the run of play to get a point.

[CCTV]

Gomez fouled as he clears with a header, nowt given

[skyebo]

I'm still getting over the shock firmino scored. I mean it was hard not to but still.

He may get back to his old self now, that goal will have give him confidence.

[miller0863]

This is nowhere near over yet. Really concerning how many chances workmanlike Sheffield Utd have created

[Kev0909]

Oh no mcgoldrick is coming on

Terrified

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a third goal here now to settle this

[CCTV]

Allison with a save from baldock, shu getting back into he game

[RedNoodle]

Oh no mcgoldrick is coming on

Terrified

Your jinx almost worked immediately.

[CCTV]

Shu get in behind trent, fabinho with a soft enough header and McGoldrick goes close

Come on Salah a bit of magic please

[miller0863]

Mo ffs

[CCTV]

Fabinho does well to stop Basham, we break but it's snuffed out

[Kev0909]

Holding on against route one football it is then last 10 mins

[RedNoodle]

Salah should score but he hits the post after some nice work.

I hope that miss doesn't come back to haunt us.

[southernboy]

Sheffield United bossing it.

[CCTV]

Salah does well to turn his man, but hits the fucking post !!

[teesred]

That Osbourne has had a good game, hes been a threat throughout and weve been nowhere near him.

[RedNoodle]

Minamino replaces Jota.

[miller0863]

Even if we win this, looking at the relevant squads, Sheff Utd have easily won the tactical battle tonight and deserve a point.

[southernboy]

I hope Thiago can get fit and stay fit. We simply can’t keep possession.

[Kev0909]

Think gomez has been great tonight

[Nineteenx]

Milner coming on for Jota, Minamino coming on for Bobby, hopefully Mo and Mane will return to their usual best positions now, the game's reminded me of that song 'Looking for Linda' never stop looking, never stop looking, never stop looking for Mane, looking out for Mane, must have counted well in excess of 50 times our player got the ball and was looking for Mane at LFWD but he wasn't there and we had to go sideways or backwards, then when he was there for about 10 minutes of the second half, he created the second and could have scored twice

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a third here now

[RedNoodle]

Berge gets booked for hauling back Wijnaldum.

[Kev0909]

nearly there

[southernboy]

Our game management is non existent. Trying to shoot through a crowd of players when retaining the ball would be far easier.

[CCTV]

Think gomez has been great tonight

Agree wholeheartedly.

[Kev0909]

Thank god for that, famous victory complete job done

[Nineteenx]

I hope Thiago can get fit and stay fit. We simply can’t keep possession.

Because we're in a different formation and players aren't where the player with the ball would usually expect them and be able to quickly play in to them, it's not rockets science

[RedNoodle]

Thank **** for that!!!

Three points for us, and three points for me, as well as a few others, despite the officials trying to screw us over.

[CCTV]

Full time 2-1

3 points :)

[southernboy]

Don’t worry lads; we’ll click after Christmas ;)

[teesred]

Saturday night robbery.
That was almost as bad as the Ajax game. We need to up our game big time.
This is a strange season upto now, the crowds not being there mist surely be having an effect.
Fair play to Sheff U. They played well, some of their players had good games.

[Artisan]

Tough game, especially with VAR...well done chaps.

[miller0863]

We really are way off it. Not alone though, so is everyone else, City, Chelsea and Utd all dropped another two points today.

[LEGS]

WIN is all that matters they didnt really threaten second half.

They only scored from a dodgy pen but Sheff Utd should stay up.

[justme]

Love these players.. olden days we would have fallen to bits.

[teesred]

Think gomez has been great tonight

Second half yes, thought he was shaky as eff' in the first.

[RedNoodle]

WIN is all that matters they didnt really threaten second half.

They only scored from a dodgy pen but Sheff Utd should stay up.

Fulham are already done, so they've only got to be better than two other teams.

[justme]

I know its early days.. But i do prefer Jota to Werner. Jota can go both ways and play anywhere at the top of the pitch.

[Steveo]

I couldn’t see the game but sounds like a very similar kind of game to quite a few last season when labelled mentality monsters. Sounds like a bullshit pen against us and we still came back - minus Virgil and with a tweaked lineup - won the game. It would be good if we could start scoring more goals to make it less nervous - have to remember though Sheff United are no mugs.

Looks like a good win

[RedNoodle]

Second half yes, thought he was shaky as eff' in the first.

Ditto.

[LFC-DPG]

I know its early days.. But i do prefer Jota to Werner. Jota can go both ways and play anywhere at the top of the pitch.

Not sure about that but I certainly prefer him to bobby.

[faridtoxteth]

Two good games in a row from Joe Gomez.
Gini had a nightmare first half and that was partly why Sheffield were getting joy in midfield. also the system was confusing i think.
I think Jurgen had a word at half time and Gini upped his game second half.
A much improved game for Bobby Firmino.
Don't know what Diogo Jotas best position is in this team.

[HLOGI]

Love these players.. olden days we would have fallen to bits.

This

[Nineteenx]

Up the bum job done, we were really poor for 80 minutes of that game with the formation change completely playing to the opposition strengths, throwing so many of 2 or 3 seasons established relationships, movement and passages of play out of the window and we were in truth fortunate to just scrape the victory, and our 2 goals only really came about through Mane instinctively assuming the position he's played for the last 2 seasons and he was otherwise anonymous, and this against and incredibly poor Sheffield United side.

We made ourselves try and play through all game instead of using our switches to the forwards or full backs coming into the space the forwards runs made for them because our forwards weren't in those positions so the switches were neve on and it played right to Sheffiled UTD's strengths. We didn't win either the Champions League or Premier League by being an all singing all dancing passing side, we won by being direct, by using our switches and pace in behind and attacking full backs, pressing and counter pressing and winning second balls

A win's a win, but if we go with that formation and line up against a better side and allow that many transitions in games for the opposition against better teams than tonight's opposition and there are 17 or 18 of them in this league, we'll get trounced. Love Jurgen, but simply cannot comprehend this 'throw the baby out with the bath water' approach he adopted for this game, and it nearly cost us

Hopefully it's a lesson learned that 4231 and throwing all those 2 or 3 season built relationships and understandings through familiarity of movement and positions out of the window is an absolutely shit idea

All the focus as ever on the next game, getting the win and another vital 3 points

Hendo MOTM by a mile, was involved in everything we did that was good and 'looked like Liverpool' both offensively and defensively

[HLOGI]

MOTM Gomez

[Nineteenx]

Two good games in a row from Joe Gomez.
Gini had a nightmare first half and that was partly why Sheffield were getting joy in midfield. also the system was confusing i think.
I think Jurgen had a word at half time and Gini upped his game second half.
A much improved game for Bobby Firmino.
Don't know what Diogo Jotas best position is in this team.

On the bench or as the LCM or RCM given more license to attack like Keita is used

[RedNoodle]

Owen kissing Ryan "The sister in law shagger" Giggs' backside by saying something along the lines of "You know what it's like to do what champions do thirteen times, I only know what that feels like once." <vomit>

[CCTV]

I couldn’t see the game but sounds like a very similar kind of game to quite a few last season when labelled mentality monsters. Sounds like a bullshit pen against us and we still came back - minus Virgil and with a tweaked lineup - won the game. It would be good if we could start scoring more goals to make it less nervous - have to remember though Sheff United are no mugs.

Looks like a good win

Could have added a few more, Salah had a cracking finish ruled out for offside (correctly it seems) and hit the post another time after doing all the hard work right.
Nearly got away a few other times at goal.

[miller0863]

Can’t stand Owen

[Nineteenx]

Just a recap of our game at Anfield v Sheff UTD last season when they were a much better side and at the time still well in the hunt for a top four finish

Goals 2-0
Shots 19-3
Shots on target 7-2
Blocked shots 7-0
Shots outside the box 5-1
Shots inside the box 14-2

Possession
74.8% 25.2%
Duels success rate
51.4% 48.6%
Aerial duels won
64.3% 35.7%
Interceptions
9 12
Offsides
1 3
Corners
8 4

What a difference a formation makes

[RedNoodle]

Can’t stand Owen

Does anybody like him?

[miller0863]

I’ll bet he does

[LEGS]

Also anyone else think we should have got a pen after Salah hit the post the defender looked to be holding his shirt for 5-6 yards ?!

Silly question really haha

[Nineteenx]

Also anyone else think we should have got a pen after Salah hit the post the defender looked to be holding his shirt for 5-6 yards ?!

Silly question really haha

We should have, but we will get nothing, I've said it numerous times, we have to expect decisions, incorrect ones at that to be given against us, any foul the opposition commits that's clever play or nothing doing to be given if our player makes the same one, work hard, support each other and not let any of that affect us and stick it to the bastards regardless, I'm quite sure that's what made us mentality monsters in the first place because that has long been our reality

pluses, great for Bobby to score, yet another absolutely immense performance from Captain fantastic, Mane's instinct to fuck the God awful formation and instinctively return to where his presence makes him one of the most feared and prolific strikers in Europe to create our 2 goals, these being the only time he was in the game when he was otherwise anonymous when usually a constant threat, and hopefully, hopefully the lucky escape being a good lesson for Jurgen that throwing the baby out with the bath water because we're missing one player is never a good idea

[southernboy]

I’ll bet he does

Lol. He really is a prize prick.

[teesred]

When is Ox due back? Surely cant be far off.

[fagin]

everyone enjoying the game?

Myself i switched over to the UFC and glad i did to see Khabib destroy Gaethje and remain unbeaten at 29-0 then following on from his fathers death he has announced it was his last fight/such a loss to the sport.

[Kev0909]

When is Ox due back? Surely cant be far off.

probably won't be back for long

so I wouldn't worry about it.

[miller0863]

Re Ox, I’ll bet he’s not fit for as long as he’s been out.

Keita, Ox, Shaq, Matip all good players but need replacing as we just can’t afford to constantly have 4 or 5 players out injured

[Nineteenx]

Hopefully we don't see a repeat of this again any time soon, punch line on 1 minute

qFvUNipYe1g

"Never stop looking, never stop looking for Mane, looking out for Mane"

Fuck me I must have counted over 40 times in that game when our player with the ball was looking for Mane in his usual position at LFWD and he simply wasn't there, Robbo, Gini, Hendo for the switch when it was on, but no Mane to play it to, Bobby, Mo, it was fucking horrendous, bordering on criminal, hope to fuck we don't see any repeat of him being moved from there again. The tracks by Hue & cry, it nearly brought me to fucking tears

[RedNoodle]

Re Ox, I’ll bet he’s not fit for as long as he’s been out.

Keita, Ox, Shaq, Matip all good players but need replacing as we just can’t afford to constantly have 4 or 5 players out injured

That's another reason why we should have a big squad. It's better to have 'an embarrassment of riches' that may look like a bit of a waste when everyone is fit, than walking a tightrope where one or two injuries could possibly end up derailing our season.

[teesred]

probably won't be back for long

so I wouldn't worry about it.

Haha
Yeah true.

[teesred]

On a side note.
Robbo has won 77 out of his first 100 games. More than any other LFC player.
What a player.

[Nineteenx]

On a side note.
Robbo has won 77 out of his first 100 games. More than any other LFC player.
What a player.

Absolutely incredible player, I felt sorry for him tonight though, no-one to link with bombing forward all game, he even resorted to trying to drive it from left through the centre a few times in search of Mane I think :D

[justme]

On a side note.
Robbo has won 77 out of his first 100 games. More than any other LFC player.
What a player.

Can you believe how good this guy is?? we swapped him for Stewart. Robbo is the best left back in the world

[southernboy]

Klopp makes a good point that we played midweek, while they had a full week of training. They certainly looked fitter to me.

[miller0863]

We have also the best recruitment team in world football. So rarely do they make an error. They know exactly what they are looking for and go out and get it, whether from Bayern Munich, Wolves, Roma or Hull.

[justme]

We have also the best recruitment team in world football. So rarely do they make an error. They know exactly what they are looking for and go out and get it, whether from Bayern Munich, Wolves, Roma or Hull.

Gotta say Jota really impresses me.. When i first saw Mane play for us. You could naturally tell he was special. I have the same feeling about Jota.

[justme]

Again can we get Gini tied down to a new contract?..He may not be the greatest or most gifted player in the world. But what a brilliant attitude he has.
Even though he may leave in the summer. You cant doubt his commitment. He was everywhere in the second half. Closing the opposition down.

[Nineteenx]

Klopp makes a good point that we played midweek, while they had a full week of training. They certainly looked fitter to me.

We made it easy for them Southern, played to their strengths and not at all to our own, both full backs struggled to get involved as they usually do, Mane was anonymous for 80 minutes except for the 10 minutes through habit, he instinctively moved to his usual LFWD position and provided the assist for both our goals and he's been on fire and is normally a constant threat, we never had a forward in the advanced position left or right for the switch, to win the second ball from any clearance of the switch or to open up the space for Robbo and Trent by running in behind and for them to be released and to link with them the entire game.

We tried to play through them and it was a disaster, we got robbed trying to play through them and gifted them more opportunities for transitions and counter than we gave away across all games in the last 2 seasons, playing through teams isn't what won us the Champions League and Premier League and our lads looked like complete strangers for a lot of it struggling to keep possession and to find each other or create anything because the players they usually link up with weren't where they have been for the last 80 plus games

[miller0863]

Yep and look how Mané has developed from there, now one of the best two or three attackers in World football. So strong on the ball, so quick and such an intelligent footballer. My current favourite Liverpool player, in a squad laden with incredible talent

[Nineteenx]

Well, we got the win, showed our incredible mentality again and if there was a game to first attempt 4231 in this was absolutely it, we were pretty luck to get the win, if Jurgen wants to adopt it more he really needs to put a lot of work into players still taking up their normal LFWD and RFWD positions when we have possession and making those same runs and movement as we only created the 1 early opportunity from the 4231 set up and not having those LFWD and RFWD runs took far too much away from what made us European, Premier League and world champions

We actually nullified Mane for 80 minutes of the game, our attacking full backs and our switch balls that allow us to stretch sides and are so often the catalyst for our making a breakthrough

The great thing from yesterday was Jota, got another goal and he was very good in the press and counter press at times and it's created something of a conundrum and a real problem for jones, Shaq, Milner and others as he looks very much like he can flourish at RCM as well ass in the forward positions which gives Jurgen an 11 which he can revert between 433 and 4231 during different periods of games if that's what he wants to do

Both our goals came from Mane assuming the position he's played as he's played it for the last 3 years rather than being where he was asked to be in the 4231 which didn't work and as good as Jota was, we actually looked far more dangerous and were finding our usual spaces and link ups when Millie came on and we were 433, as you'd expect having played that for most of the last 3 years

A lot of work and rweaks to be done if Jurgen wants to persist with 4231, 433 with Jota at RCM might be worth a look

[Kev0909]

it's worrying if mane and salah are ever out

Since febuary 2020

Only players with double figures salah 13 mane 11, the rest are 2, including new signing Jota (so that's promising) at least firmino matches wij and VVD now

(in the league)

[Nineteenx]

As I stated at the time, commentators having a wankfest over Modric's ball for Real's equaliser, Hendo's v Sheffield UTD was much better and Modric had more time and space to weigh it up too

[Steveo]

Did you watch England v Croatia at the last World Cup 19...?

Even at his ripe old age - Luka Modric is on an entirely different level.

I do admire your loyalty but do behave.

[Nineteenx]

Did you watch England v Croatia at the last World Cup 19...?

Even at his ripe old age - Luka Modric is on an entirely different level.

I do admire your loyalty but do behave.

You're missing my point I believe