Liverpool v West Ham United (Match Thread)

[RedNoodle]

Liverpool

Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Phillips, Robertson, Jones, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Salah, Firmino, Mane.

Subs: Milner, Adrian, Minamino, Jota, Shaqiri, Rhys Williams, Neco Williams.

West Ham United

Fabianski, Coufal, Balbuena, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Masuaku, Bowen, Soucek, Rice, Fornals, Haller.

Subs: Yarmolenko, Benrahma, Lanzini, Snodgrass, Diop, Fredericks, Randolph.

Referee

Kevin Friend.

[justme]

Nice solid start and take it from there!

[Nineteenx]

Alisson

Trent Phillips Gomez Robertson

Wijnaldum Henderson Jones

Salah Firmino Mane

Good line up for what will be a tough tough game, let's make sure our communication and the players directing and helping each other in their positioning and press and counter press is at it's very highest levels, back to the 18-19 levels of communication from all the players. That our press, counter press and winning of second balls and recycling of the ball is as good as it can possible be. Be clinical with our opportunities to create chances and in finishing them. Really hope Jones is getting a start at LCM, he plays far better there, came through the academy playing there and LFWD.

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get the win here today and another vital 3 points

[Nineteenx]

Nice solid start and take it from there!

Agree, nice solid start then a good bumming of the Hammers

[justme]

I am not into bumming but what ever must be done must be.

[ianlfc]

Good luck tonight Nat. You lucky lucky bastard!!
What we'd all give for a Liverpool start.

[Steveo]

Goals goals goals please

[justincredible]

Good luck tonight Nat. You lucky lucky bastard!!
What we'd all give for a Liverpool start.

Couple more injuries and you could be in contention Ian.

[Insidious]

Hope Jones has a boss game - both for himself and for the purpose of Ox and Keita being kept on their toes when not injured. Competition for places is a very healthy thing.

Massive game for Phillips.

[ianlfc]

Couple more injuries and you could be in contention Ian.

weres them Puma Dalglish I used to wear ?

[Nineteenx]

Kick off imminent, Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get the win here tonight and another vital 3 points, time to hit the top of the table and never relinquish that position

[Steveo]

Mané’s touch - so far way off. Hopefully just warming up

[eggy81]

Popping it about well. Trent looks ready ro explode in fpl points.

[Steveo]

West Ham take the lead. Static defending Homez heads it strait to a WH player who unlike us - finish with their first attempt.

[3underpar]

Great clearance straight to West Ham from Gomez

[Nineteenx]

1-0 West Ham, poor clearing header by Joe straight to their lad, who puts it in the bottom corner

[southernboy]

That’s the defensive header of a schoolboy

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves level here now

[eggy81]

Poor poor goal.

[RedNoodle]

FFS!!! :mad:

[RedNoodle]

Yet another mistake from Gomez.

[Kev0909]

Would of thought allison would of saved that

Was like slow motion

[Steveo]

In off the post - never easy to save

[miller0863]

Yet another mistake Noods

[southernboy]

Would of thought allison would of saved that

Was like slow motion

I think he was a bit unsighted, but yeah, disappointed that he didn’t get near it.

[Nineteenx]

Free kick here in a perfect position for Trent to fire one home on his 100th appearance

[shminkyred]

God I hate it when the commentator starts talking about farkin records...!!!!!!

[Nineteenx]

I think he was a bit unsighted, but yeah, disappointed that he didn’t get near it.

He was totally unsighted, it went through Gomez's legs

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves an equaliser here now

[miller0863]

Jones quit the fuckin chat and get on with the game

[RedNoodle]

Fornals is a ****.

[miller0863]

See how Phillips goes today, maybe he can stay in the team going forward

[miller0863]

Fornels was utterly awful last week, so often the way

[RedNoodle]

Every team is targeting our right hand side. It's an obvious weakness and it needs to be addressed.

[Steveo]

It’s all on the midfield here. At home and a goal down. Where is the drive and creativity..? Need to see it now please

[RedNoodle]

It’s all on the midfield here. At home and a goal down. Where is the drive and creativity..? Need to see it now please

A midfield of Wijnaldum, Jones and Henderson doesn't exactly instill fear in the opposition.

[Steveo]

Either way we need them to stand up and push

[Jenson78]

As usual Gomez fault, his school boy header and Alisson couldn’t see because he was standing in his way. Come back Lovren all is for forgiven.

[3underpar]

Not the most creative bunch in midfield today.

[Steveo]

Not the most creative bunch in midfield today.

Jones looks like he has some genuine flair - let’s see

[3underpar]

C’mon VAR have a look. Think Mane lost the race to the ball sadly

[Steveo]

Bugger me - how long do we take to get the shot away - we are not clinical enough. Mané was in but wanted a pen. Then Hendo misses the target

[miller0863]

Ball’s just not falling for us

[Nineteenx]

26 minutes in, and the first time I've seen Mane in the position on the shoulder of their RCB where I'd expect to see him

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves level here now

[Steveo]

Look at how deep Bobby is playing and losing the ball - it’s shite Jurgen. You need to sort this out

[RedNoodle]

Bugger me - how long do we take to get the shot away - we are not clinical enough. Mané was in but wanted a pen. Then Hendo misses the target

Which is why we need more creative/clinical options. We simply don't get enough goals and creativity from midfield.

[miller0863]

Awful from the midfield just allowing Fornals to jog through the middle unopposed

[eggy81]

Centre back pairing look very vulnerable

[3underpar]

Big physical west ham team will make us work hard for anything. So far nothing on target and no space to work.

[Steveo]

Which is why we need more creative/clinical options. We simple don't get enough goals and creativity from midfield.

Just need the goals to start flowing. We are desperate for that because we are average in every other area bar the GK right now. Goals will lift them

[RedNoodle]

Awful from the midfield just allowing Fornals to jog through the middle unopposed

As I feared. Wijnaldum is having one of his 'AWOL' games, and Jones has done little so far. Henderson can't do it on his own.

[Insidious]

Which is why we need more creative/clinical options. We simple don't get enough goals and creativity from midfield.

On the creativity from midfield, I do wish we attempted more work through the channels. I appreciate that Robbo and Trent are very effective from wide and that Hendo has that ball where he strikes it when it's almost behind him, but we occasionally need to direct the ball through alternative outlets, be it the one-two or the through ball.

[miller0863]

Sadio ffs sharpen up lad

[3underpar]

Mane c’mon you can’t go through the whole team.

[Steveo]

Sadio ffs sharpen up lad

Been off it since the first whistle. Klopp looks like he is waiting for some fortune rather than expecting us to win

[RedNoodle]

Just need the goals to start flowing. We are desperate for that because we are average in every other area bar the GK right now. Goals will lift them

The goals are never going to flow from our midfield with the players we currently have.

[3underpar]

The goals are never going to flow from our midfield with the players we currently have.

It’s why we bought Thiago and Everton saw to that.

[RedNoodle]

On the creativity from midfield, I do wish we attempted more work through the channels. I appreciate that Robbo and Trent are very effective from wide and that Hendo has that ball where he strikes it when it's almost behind him, but we occasionally need to direct the ball through alternative outlets, be it the one-two or the through ball.

We now have Thiago who can hopefully do some of that, but we can't pin all our hopes on him, and thus we still need more.

[skyebo]

The goals are never going to flow from our midfield with the players we currently have.

Spot on, been the same for years.

[RedNoodle]

It’s why we bought Thiago and Everton saw to that.

See above.

[miller0863]

We made one mistake at the back and they profited from it, they’ve made two or three and we’ve been nowhere near

[eggy81]

Sometimes in games like this I always think our flair players are too far forward. Thiago would be invaluable in these games.

[Steveo]

Zero created this is dogshite

[shminkyred]

whats up with Bobby?

[miller0863]

Bobby loses it in midfield... could copy and paste that several times a game

[eggy81]

Bobby really is starting to look a weak link rather than a strength.

[Nineteenx]

I don't know why it changed, but I don't like this new look front 3 with Mane and Salah both more central, it saw us struggle v Sheff UTD and we only broke them down through Mane going into the position you'd usually expect to find him

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves level here now

[Steveo]

Just knew Robbo would shank it. Hasn’t got the technique to score enough. Thrashed at it.

[RedNoodle]

Bobby loses it in midfield... could copy and paste that several times a game

He needs a rest. Jota can feel hard done by not to be getting a game.

[Insidious]

That Hendo, Mane, Firmino, Robbo move was MUCH better. Robbo needs to keep it down of course, but more of that please.

[3underpar]

Front three look frustrated and out of sync. West Ham going full Burnley and we look toothless.

[eggy81]

Good from Bobby in that move. More like it.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Andy really needs to work on target practice for his shots.

He gets a lot of free shots and then just skies them to the upper deck, under no pressure at all.

It's puzzling especially considering how good his aim is when getting some of his crosses in.

[Steveo]

Free kick here... Come on we need something- anything

[eggy81]

I don't know why it changed, but I don't like this new look front 3 with Mane and Salah both more central, it saw us struggle v Sheff UTD and we only broke them down through Mane going into the position you'd usually expect to find him

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves level here now
Thought I was imagining it. Sslah now has refused to run wide for trent 3 or 4 times even though nothing was on through middle.

[Nineteenx]

Right, free kick here, 100th appearance, come the fucking FUCK on Trent lad, put this one in the back of their fucking net now

[skyebo]

He needs a rest. Jota can feel hard done by not to be getting a game.

He's the only threat we have apart from the obvious two. I'm sure he'll come on at some point. I see Henderson missed an easy chance. I'm behind you lot watching the match.

[Steveo]

Penalty to Salah - VAR will check

Defo catches him

[3underpar]

Pen

[Steveo]

Get iiiiin.... Now come the fuck oooooooooooon. This is West pissing Ham FFS.

Let’s destroy them.

[3underpar]

Get in Mo

[southernboy]

That’s as soft as fuck. But I’ll take anything at the moment. 1-1.

[Nineteenx]

Penalty - Booooooooooooooooooooom 1-1 Salaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah get the fucking FUCK in

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a goal for 2-1 here before half time now

[miller0863]

Lovely ball into Salah for the penalty from our brightest midfielder so far today

[RedNoodle]

Get in!!!

[Steveo]

That’s as soft as fuck. But I’ll take anything at the moment. 1-1.

Maybe but by today’s standards that js a stone Waller. Kicks his foot.

[justme]

soft penalty but will take it

[Insidious]

If there are to be more goals in this match, we need the next one.

We're not scintillating today and West Ham are organised.

Get the next one, keep the ball, don't concede corners.

[eggy81]

Maybe but by today’s standards that js a stone Waller. Kicks his foot.

It wasn't quite united soft but it was soft. Still what was he kicking at

[Crimson Dynasty]

Klopp still needs to change things at half time.
This is just not good enough despite that penalty to level it.

Bring on Jota.
Bobby needs to sort himself out. He's just been an non-entity and completely missing all game.

I don't know what needs to be done with that mdifield but currently that trio isn't working well at all.
Maybe bring on Shaq for Jones? I don't know.

[southernboy]

Maybe but by today’s standards that js a stone Waller. Kicks his foot.

It was the way he went down. Comical.

If only we could control the game now.

[miller0863]

Awful ball from Hendo, then a cheap free kick to give them another opportunity to sling it into our box. Footballers really aren’t the brightest at times

[Steveo]

soft penalty but will take it

We will all take it - we have been shocking. Created literally nothing. Has to change

[Kev0909]

whats up with Bobby?

I'm tired of saying his name

he's shit that's whats up

[RedNoodle]

If you took any notice of Jim Beglin you'd think us/Salah were Man U/Fernandes and were 'winning' soft penalties every week.

[eggy81]

If there are to be more goals in this match, we need the next one.

We're not scintillating today and West Ham are organised.

Get the next one, keep the ball, don't concede corners.

We haven't been scintillating in about 8 months.

[Steveo]

We haven't been scintillating in about 8 months.

Players are spent - physically and mentally.

[3underpar]

If you took any notice of Jim Beglin you'd think us/Salah were Man U/Fernandes and were 'winning' soft penalties every week.

Yep, it’s like Mo gets a pen every week. He needs to check himself. He said at first it was an obvious pen.

[miller0863]

Wouldn’t be taking Jones off, he’s been the best of the three in midfield

[RedNoodle]

Players are spent - physically and mentally.

That's what happens when you almost entirely rely on your first eleven, rather than a sizeable, quality laden squad.

[Insidious]

We haven't been scintillating in about 8 months.

You should look at the schedule some of them have had. Firmino has played a LOT of footie in the last 3 years or so for example when you dig into it all.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Players are spent - physically and mentally.

What's Jones got to be spent about?
It's not like he's ben starting most of those games in that 8 months.

Or Bobby for that matter.

[3underpar]

Ok, smash them second half

[miller0863]

Well that was a poor first half. So frustrating when we make bang average players look good. Fornals for a start.

[Steveo]

HT - and it is 1:1 v Weat Ham at the home of the Premier League & World Club Champions...

Yep - honest. We just look poor in almost every game of late. Forget results - we just look like a team about to fall over.

[teesred]

We look poor and have fone for a good few games now. Midfield is nowhere near as effective without Fabinho.
Thiago is the man we brought in to unlock shithouse teams like this but we should still be better than that. Weve barely created anything and it's just too predictable. Bobby has been abysmal but thats par for the course nowadays.

[Nineteenx]

Not a great half, West Ham with a 5 man defence and a 4 man block in front of it has made it tough going, it hasn't been helped by Mo and Mane being too central in my opinion and the goal came through Mo being fouled pulling into space on off the shoulder of their LCB as you would expect Mo and Mane to be making that movement pulling off the shoulder of their LCB and RCB respectively

Over to Jurgen to work his half time magic as ever and make sure we're A LOT better second half, get the win and another vital 3 points here tonight

I'd like to see Mane and Mo off the shoulder of the RCB and LCB, we've always had a great deal of success with that, and those 2 being too central for too much of it and our trying to play through West Ham's 5-4-1 simply hasn't worked, let's be more direct, keep asking question with attempted balls for either and win the second balls

[skyebo]

Awful ball from Hendo, then a cheap free kick to give them another opportunity to sling it into our box. Footballers really aren’t the brightest at times

Yeah, i got the ball, i got the ball. No you didn't, you got the man. He makes a living out of doing that.

[Steveo]

What's Jones got to be spent about?
It's not like he's ben starting most of those games in that 8 months.

Or Bobby for that matter.

Jones was perfectly ok for a rookie. It’s Mo - Mané and especially Bobby. They are on half a tank.

Klopp over uses players. Maybe why so few Germans want to come and play for him.

He is my hero but I worry for him. He looks a worried man

[teesred]

HT - and it is 1:1 v Weat Ham at the home of the Premier League & World Club Champions...

Yep - honest. We just look poor in almost every game of late. Forget results - we just look like a team about to fall over.

Agree. We are getting a pasting off City,Spurs or Utd when we play them . Maybe even all 3. We just look a shadow of what we were.

[Crimson Dynasty]

HT - and it is 1:1 v Weat Ham at the home of the Premier League & World Club Champions...

Yep - honest. We just look poor in almost every game of late. Forget results - we just look like a team about to fall over.

It's just how Moysey planned it.

Gollum's got the grin of a Cheshire cat right about now.

[Kev0909]

we'll still win always find a way

even though we're actually playing like shit and have done for a while. luckily we've got a few special players out there

[ianlfc]

We deserved that equaliser, West ham are fucking horrible to watch. I hope we go on and hammer them.

[miller0863]

That was such a poor goal we conceded.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Jones was perfectly ok for a rookie. It’s Mo - Mané and especially Bobby. They are on half a tank.

I agree that Mané's starting to look wildly off his best, and Mo is typically either on or not there at all.

Bobby hasn't been at it for almost a year now, so saying he's "spent" isn't exactly accurate.
I'm just hoping whatever it is that's done him isn't starting to infect the other two.

[CCTV]

Was listening on the way home to the not so great first half.

Can't wait to see this glorious second half :)

[southernboy]

That was exactly the first half I was expecting, and exactly the kind of performance that we’ve seen in recent matches.

The players do look knackered. The pointless international breaks don’t help, but let’s not forget, these guys had a huge break during lockdown. Not sure exactly how long it was.

[ianlfc]

Was listening on the way home to the not so great first half.

Can't wait to see this glorious second half :)

that's the beauty of football. 😄😄

[skyebo]

That was such a poor goal we conceded.

The ball should have been cleared well before the cross came in for Gomez to head to their player. They were just ball watching instead of challenging for it.

[Steveo]

I agree that Mané's starting to look wildly off his best, and Mo is typically either on or not there at all.

Bobby hasn't been at it for almost a year now, so saying he's "spent" isn't exactly accurate.
I'm just hoping whatever it is that's done him isn't starting to infect the other two.

True but Bobby was spent a year ago - and guess what happened..? Klopp kept playing him. So he has been clocking up all those miles - all those impacts with burly defenders - for another year from a starting point
Of being shattered.

Everything can be traced to a year Ago when the club failed to add to a squad that came within an inch of an incredible PL CL double. And As I said it might - it galvanised the team - and the mentality BUT now - now we see the true cost.


We need to limp into January and panic buy sadly..

[CCTV]

that's the beauty of football. 😄😄

Commentary were saying we were failing to spot and pass to runs made by our front 3, especially by Salah and Hendo a big culprit !!

Surely Klopp will sort it out again at halftime

[RedNoodle]

Trevor Sinclair really is an A grade ****. He just accused Salah of constantly diving.

Maybe the racist **** should focus more on his alcohol consumption and his decision making skills, namely when it comes to when you should and should not drive a car. :mad:

[justme]

Terrible mistake by Gomez could have headed it anywhere. Didnt even manage to head out of the box

[justme]

The ball should have been cleared well before the cross came in for Gomez to head to their player. They were just ball watching instead of challenging for it.

Even the lack of a second challenge Gomez just stood there and allowed him a free shot

[ianlfc]

Commentary were saying we were failing to spot and pass to runs made by our front 3, especially by Salah and Hendo a big culprit !!

Surely Klopp will sort it out again at halftime

They got their goal,so it was 10 men behind the ball.

[ianlfc]

They got their goal,so it was 10 men behind the ball.

then the big lump up the pitch to the centre forward.

[Kev0909]

They got their goal,so it was 10 men behind the ball.

Might be a good thing with gomez being gomez and phillips at CB

best time to attack us would be now

[Nineteenx]

Second half imminent, kicking towards the Kop end

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool,let's be A LOT better this half, get yourselves ahead early and get the win and another vital 3 points here tonight

[Steveo]

Rice booked after a good Gini run.we need so much more of that from midfield

[miller0863]

No way that ball should have come across, Trent really has to do better

[RedNoodle]

Yet again our right hand side is easily breached.

[Steveo]

Almost.. lovely love between Mané and Trent

[Steveo]

Jones has been lively this half good movement and some nice clever incisive balls

[3underpar]

Mo ugh. Smash it

[miller0863]

So many cheap free kicks given away today

[miller0863]

Another easy cross comes into our box

[eggy81]

Yrent literally never stops the cross.

[Steveo]

I don’t want any of WH’s subs come on. They are all a threat

[RedNoodle]

So we're looking spent, but still no subs.

[3underpar]

I don’t want any of WH’s subs come on. They are all a threat

Yarmo has late winner written all over him

[Nineteenx]

Right, come the fuck on now Liverpool, let's have Mane and Mo AT LFWD and RFWD pulling off the shoulder of their RCB and LCB

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here now

[Steveo]

Bring on Jota and Shaq - come on - enough of this turgid shite

[eggy81]

So lacking in any sort of individual inspiration. Stale is the word I think best describes us.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Another easy cross comes into our box


Yrent literally never stops the cross.

Easily the weakest and most frustrating part of his game.

His positioning prior to the crossing player receiving the ball (he always gets caught far out of position), and then his reluctance (inability?) to press them or even push them farther out wide or towards the corner for a harder cross.

It's no wonder opposition teams always target his wing of the defense whenever they play us.

[Insidious]

Bring on Jota and Shaq - come on - enough of this turgid shite

Who for though?

Jones and Firmino?

[3underpar]

So we're looking spent, but still no subs.

Lots of standing around now. Doesn’t help playing against 532 sitting back

[Nineteenx]

Double sub imminent, got to think one of them will be Jota for Jones

[Steveo]

Who for though?

Jones and Firmino?

I could do better than Bobby right now

[southernboy]

I know that not everybody agrees with me, but we don’t half miss the crowd. Especially in games like this.

[Steveo]

Salah just fucks up a certain goal with a terrible ball for Mané

But playing some better play from us - looking dangerous finally

[3underpar]

Fuck Mo shorted Mane who was in

[Nineteenx]

Glorious ball from Hendo for Robbo there, should have got the centre in for a certain goal

Jota on for Bobby Shaq on for Jones

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here now

[3underpar]

Power Cube and Diego on. C’mon boys

[Steveo]

Glorious ball from Hendo for Robbo there, should have got the centre in for a certain goal

Jota on for Bobby Shaq on for Jones

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here now

You are funny

[skyebo]

Good over the top ball from Henderson, deserved a better finish.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Much better play from us in that moment.

Subs imminent now.
Shaqiri and Diogo coming on.

[Kev0909]

Why is firmino still starting?

[eggy81]

Come on shaq you big little beautiful square.

[Steveo]

Right foot there Mo

[Steveo]

Why is firmino still starting?

Totally unjustified and wrong and Klopp needs to fix up - enough already.

[3underpar]

Why is firmino still starting?

Resumé and nothing else. 2020 has been disastrous. Gotta think his time is running out even with Klopp after this season.

[Kev0909]

Totally unjustified and wrong and Klopp needs to fix up - enough already.

I'd use him in the top games for his "defensive work" but against weaker teams no...

[RedNoodle]

If I was a manager I'd make all one footed players train with their other foot in the same way that Mickey does to Rocky in Rocky II.

[Steveo]

Jotaaaaaa


aaaaaaaa


But VAR check

Will be ruled out I bet

Mané takes keeper out

[3underpar]

Fuck yea Jota. Pls no VAR

[miller0863]

Not gonna give it

[miller0863]

When VAR takes a look at our goals, they don’t count

[shminkyred]

no chance

[Steveo]

On field review.

He will rule it out

[Kev0909]

I know it may be disallowed but jota scores goals.. he's a lot better than firmino currently

[3underpar]

Beglin is talking nonsense

[RedNoodle]

Beglin is talking sloblocks about the touch needing to be intentional. Unless the rules have been changed it doesn't matter if it was intentional or not.

[miller0863]

Every single time it’s an absolute joke

[CCTV]

Surely that stands....

[Steveo]

1:1 - Mané did go into the keeper to be fair

[Crimson Dynasty]

VAR strikes again!

[3underpar]

Var disallows because that’s what it does for us

[Nineteenx]

Good goal, don't think that's a foul by Mane, his foot goes under the keeper, disallowed

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves a winner here now

[eggy81]

Should be a penalty.

[RedNoodle]

I knew Friend was going to fk us over!!! :mad:

LiVARpool my backside!!! :mad:

[miller0863]

Brilliant play from Jota mind. Got start ahead of Bobby now surely

[Crimson Dynasty]

1:1 - Mané did go into the keeper to be fair

It wasn't for the clash with the keeper, though.

It was because his trailing leg took out the defender ( I can't spell his name).

The collision with the keeper was from a fair challenge for a 50-50 ball that they both missed and then Aghbanlahor (who did get to the ball) gets taken out by Mané's trailing leg, hence the goal being disallowed.

[3underpar]

Say what you want, VAR makes these games less appealing to watch for fans and less appealing to play for players.

[RedNoodle]

It's almost as if the officials have been told by those in charge to do whatever they can to make sure we don't retain the title.

[Steveo]

It wasn't for the clash with the keeper, though.

It was because his trailing leg took out the defender ( I can't spell his name).

Oh well but sure the foot into the Keeper had an effect. We know what refs are like when anyone touches a keeper

[eggy81]

Mane should have buried it either way though

[shminkyred]

at least that was a 50 50 call .....and down the the refs interpretation of the rules......but that Mane off side?????? did they ever say what part of him was off side?

[Nineteenx]

Mane should have buried his first attempt, his levels have dropped a little since his position has been altered a bit

We'll just have to get the winner again, fuck VAR

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a late late winner here now

[Insidious]

The worry now is how late in matches West Ham have been getting winners.

Come on lads, just one really clear chance.

[Steveo]

Proper play and a what a goal jotaaaaaaa

Are you watching 19 - Shaq - that’s a WC ball


Perfect touch - run and score it son

[miller0863]

Jotaaaaaaaaaaa
Lovely play from Shaq too

[3underpar]

at least that was a 50 50 call .....and down the the refs interpretation of the rules......but that Mane off side?????? did they ever say what part of him was off side?

Nope, Coote got to do whatever the fuck he wanted and say it’s offside. No accountability


Fuck yes Jota

[Insidious]

The worry now is how late in matches West Ham have been getting winners.

Come on lads, just one really clear chance.

Shaw Attack with the pornographic skill, Jota with the finish.

Hold on now lads!

[RedNoodle]

Chalk that one off you ****s!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[miller0863]

Mo poor again there

[Nineteenx]

Booooooooooooooooooooooom get the fucking FUCK in 2-1 Jota another fine pass from Shaqiri

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, keep it really well here, pick them off and nick a third if you can

[Steveo]

Salah folks up again - this time Jota is in and he plays it the wrong way.

Come on Mo

[CCTV]

Jota scores again.. var frantically trying to rule it out.... but surely they can just fook off !!

[3underpar]

Ugh Jota was in again didn’t got the return ball

[Kev0909]

can we please stop bringing jota on to win us the game? can't we just start him instead?

Instead of firmino nearly costing us

[RedNoodle]

Mo poor again there

His decision making is p.poor at times. No wonder Mane gets peed off with him.

[skyebo]

Great play for the two subs. Nothing wrong with the one that was disallowed either. Mane had every right to go for the ball, not every collision is a foul. Need to just hang on now.

[Steveo]

Ugh Jota was in again didn’t got the return ball

Mo - and it was so easy to see the ball too. Does he need a rest too...? He was looking superb just recently but today - has looked a bit tired

[Steveo]

Shite Lanzini and Benrhama on

[3underpar]

Jota miles better than Bobby these days

[3underpar]

Mo - and it was so easy to see the ball too. Does he need a rest too...? He was looking superb just recently but today - has looked a bit tired

Yeah maybe. He is untouchable to Klopp and many. You just never know when he will have a worldie of a game.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Oh well but sure the foot into the Keeper had an effect. We know what refs are like when anyone touches a keeper


Actually fouls on keepers are pretty much usually clear cut how they call them.

If the keeper is going for a ball (that is NOT 50-50, as in he has the advantage of getting it) and also has no protection for himself as a result (like say with a high ball), and you clash into them, that's a foul all day.
Also if you run into them or block them or otherwise impede from a dead ball situation (like corners or freekicks), then they also get the call.

BUT, if you're both going for a 50-50 ball with either player having a fair chance to win it, then a clash in that situation doesn't automatically warrant a freekick for the keeper, and if anything in many cases if the keeper is adjudged to have impeded YOU from fairly winning it, then they get penalized (including up to a penalty.)

In this case, neither Mané nor Fabianski had any fair advantage over the other on winning that ball and despite Mané's leg digging into him in the sequence of it, it wouldn't have been a foul had his trailing leg not taken out the defender who was in the best position to win the ball (not sure he had control of it yet).

The reasoning is that the goalkeeper has to have a fair chance to protect himself and failing that, to win the ball that they have the better chance of getting.

[Nineteenx]

Millie on for Mo

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, keep it really well, take your time over things, make sure you get hold of the ball

[Steveo]

Just took Cara the 5 mins and about 20 cameras to spot the quality of Shaq’s pass.

Wanna know why he commentates and doesn’t manage...? That’s why. He doesn’t see it in real time speed.

[southernboy]

Chalk that one off you ****s!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trust me, I was waiting

[Crimson Dynasty]

Jota miles better than Bobby these days

He definitely has a better eye for goal certainly.

Second game running that he's had a goal disallowed but then gone on and scored anyway.

I'm not even sure Bobby had a shot on target at all in this game. And in the last game, his best opportunity was a shot he skied when he had an open opportunity to score with the goalie out of position (though, that was the Champion's League game)

[RedNoodle]

Trust me, I was waiting

I think most Reds were.

[Kev0909]

Another shit game but another win by 1 goal....

Hopefully it doesn't run out at some point... or we can actually beat a team with some comfort

[Steveo]

Gomez gives a corner - Alisson had it. Phillips clears it with a towering header.. MOTM

[3underpar]

Philips great game overall tonight.

[Steveo]

Great win after a terrible first 45

[Crimson Dynasty]

We've just looked so much more dangerous and threatening with Jota on. (and Shaqiri as well)
With more fluidity in our attack and going forward.

I just can't imagine Klopp not starting him for the game with Atalanta.
(but, I'm will to bet he still won't)

[miller0863]

Get in.
What an excellent buy Jota looks already, quick, strong on the ball, excellent finisher. Really liking the look of him.

[RedNoodle]

That was a lot harder than it should have been.

Phillips comes in and immediately looks like the senior partner at CB.

[Balinkay]

Very nice! Not sure Jota's first was correctly ruled off, but I'm extremely happy to get the three points against a West Ham on the rise.

[justme]

yayyya Jota my man.. well deserved win!

[teesred]

Deserved win. Not fantastic but any team who comes to play a shithouse 90mins like they did deserve jack all.
Well done Phillip's. Didnt put a foot wrong. Jota simply has to start games.

[skyebo]

Gomez gives a corner - Alisson had it. Phillips clears it with a towering header.. MOTM

I was about to say how well Phillips played, let's hope he now gets a decent run at it.

[Nineteenx]

Up the bum job done, despite VAR making us get the winner twice ;)

It was a struggle today, the forwards position change is a weird one, disrupts so many of the things that worked so well in the 17-18, 18-19 and 19-20 seasons, seems daft to me, sure there must be a reason for it, haven't seen it work yet mind and have seen it make us far less threatening in attack.

These games against a very good and organised 541 or 451 are the games we really bought Thiago for

All the focus on the next game as ever, getting the win v Atalanta and another vital 3 points

[RedNoodle]

Trevor Sinclair is gutted that we won. He really is a massive p***k.

[skyebo]

Very nice! Not sure Jota's first was correctly ruled off, but I'm extremely happy to get the three points against a West Ham on the rise.

Was it ruled offside Bali ? i thought they deemed Mane to have fouled the keeper.

[Nineteenx]

Deserved win. Not fantastic but any team who comes to play a shithouse 90mins like they did deserve jack all.
Well done Phillip's. Didnt put a foot wrong. Jota simply has to start games.

Got rolled by Haller once, only foot he put wrong the entire game

[LEGS]

Doing my head in the way they were talking West Ham played 5-4-1 banging long ball after long ball and moaning about Haller.

We deserved to win and what a performance by Phillips old school head it and kick it which is what was needed.

Jota pushing hard for Firmino spot next week.

Again win is all that matters.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Chuffed for Phillips.
Was solid all game; dependable when called upon and no jitters or nerves or anything.

Not easy when you're called upon to stand in for the more established starters.

Both him and Williams have done well in filling in Virgil's/Matip's/Fabby's shoes.....and those are all mighty big shoes to fill (literally and figuratively)

[LEGS]

Trevor Sinclair is gutted that we won. He really is a massive p***k.

You are not wrong add the word racist in the front of prick and you are bang on.

[RedNoodle]

Doing my head in the way they were talking West Ham played 5-4-1 banging long ball after long ball and moaning about Haller.

We deserved to win and what a performance by Phillips old school head it and kick it which is what was needed.

Jota pushing hard for Firmino spot next week.

Again win is all that matters.

According to Trevor Sinclair, Rice was MOTM. He needs to be breathalysed again.

[Nineteenx]

Just took Cara the 5 mins and about 20 cameras to spot the quality of Shaq’s pass.

Wanna know why he commentates and doesn’t manage...? That’s why. He doesn’t see it in real time speed.

he never did ;)

[RedNoodle]

You are not wrong add the word racist in the front of prick and you are bang on.

I mentioned that earlier.

How these ****s get work on tv and radio is astounding. One set of ****s hiring another set of ****s.

[Balinkay]

Was it ruled offside Bali ? i thought they deemed Mane to have fouled the keeper.

Err, sorry - meant chalked off. It was indeed for the foul. But I'm not sure it was Manè who kicked the goalie - looked like it was his own man.

[southernboy]

Over the moon with that. I’ve got no problem having a couple of subs come on and change games. They might be even be better suited to that than starting.

Absolutely thrilled for Phillips, should do his confidence the world of good.

Not sure how, but top of the fucking league

[RedNoodle]

Over the moon with that. I’ve got no problem having a couple of subs come on and change games. They might be even be better suited to that than starting.

Absolutely thrilled for Phillips, should do his confidence the world of good.

Not sure how, but top of the fucking league

Top despite others best efforts to repeatedly screw us over.

[Balinkay]

According to Trevor Sinclair, Rice was MOTM. He needs to be breathalysed again.

Jeez. I mean Rice was good, but he had a few shaky moments and let our boys get past him easily once or twice. Not to mention some atrocious passing.


Also some real quality on the bench is quite nice, no?

[Crimson Dynasty]

Was it ruled offside Bali ? i thought they deemed Mane to have fouled the keeper.

I don't think he meant it was called offside, I believe he meant it was ruled off.

But it wouldn't have been an offside anyway even if the foul hadn't been given since the final ball came from Aghbanlahor and not our own player.

The question then would have been whether it was an intentional clearance or kick by Aghbanlahor or if it was a deflection that he was unaware of.
I believe in the latter case, then the offside would count and rule it off.
I could be wrong though.

But if you're a defender and you're clearing the ball and instead hit it to an opposition player who is in an offside position, then you're playing him onside (If I understand the rule correctly).
That's why back passes to the goalkeeper that get intercepted by opposition attackers who are CLEARLY in an offside position when they do don't get ruled out for offside if they then score.

Same thing for goalies who try to clear it but hit it into an opposing attacker in an offside position and it goes into the net.

[Nineteenx]

Very nice! Not sure Jota's first was correctly ruled off, but I'm extremely happy to get the three points against a West Ham on the rise.

It wasn't ruled out fairly, it is the official reason it was ruled out for a foul be Mane on the defender, he didn't foul their keeper and if anything he's ahead of their defender who comes in behind and fouls Mane, but fuck them, they tried it in yet another game and we came up with the answers again

[HLOGI]

The Alpine Messi with a sublime moment. As they would have said, " the pass was worth the admission alone."

Phillips fantastic debut. Jota looks like a guy who will score every game, he has ice in his veins. What a player.

Well done boys, boring game but had enough quality to beat this defensive dribble of Moyes.

Liverpool too of the league,

[HLOGI]

Top despite others best efforts to repeatedly screw us over.

So satisfying.

[Nineteenx]

Over the moon with that. I’ve got no problem having a couple of subs come on and change games. They might be even be better suited to that than starting.

Absolutely thrilled for Phillips, should do his confidence the world of good.

Not sure how, but top of the fucking league

I'm absolutely made up too, great to have subs who can come on and change the game, we haven't ever had that since Jurgen arrived

[Crimson Dynasty]

Third straight game that Jota is coming in as a sub and scores, and third straight game he's scoring the winner.

Surely Klopp has to give him the start next game.
Just imagine what he could do with half the chances that Bobby whiffs on that come his way.

[skyebo]

Err, sorry - meant chalked off. It was indeed for the foul. But I'm not sure it was Manè who kicked the goalie - looked like it was his own man.

Thanks Bali.

[RedNoodle]

Jeez. I mean Rice was good, but he had a few shaky moments and let our boys get past him easily once or twice. Not to mention some atrocious passing.


Also some real quality on the bench is quite nice, no?

Shaqiri has had fitness issues and has been underused when 'fit'. Jota was a much needed addition, but we still need more, namely at the back and a bit more creativity and goal threat.

[RedNoodle]

Third straight game that Jota is coming in as a sub and scores, and third straight game he's scoring the winner.

Surely Klopp has to give him the start next game.
Just imagine what he could do with half the chances that Bobby whiffs on that come his way.

He's the first Liverpool player to score in his first three home games since Luis Garcia.

[LEGS]

I mentioned that earlier.

How these ****s get work on tv and radio is astounding. One set of ****s hiring another set of ****s.

We know he hates us when pissed he went on twitter called us "dippers" then did a half arsed sorry next day.

He wasnt sorry at all its only because he got caught as you will do being an ex England player on twitter !

I ignore vast majority of them anyway avoid the pre match stuff mainly I tend to work things out for myself best way.

[ianlfc]

That's why we're Champions 😂😂😂
Up the fucking Reds subs 😂😂

[Pigsy]

The cube has now unlocked two tight defences with two sublime passes to finish games off. Against teams set up up to park the bus he is a perfect understudy for Thiago.

Well played Shaqiri!

[Balinkay]

Shaqiri has had fitness issues and has been underused when 'fit'. Jota was a much needed addition, but we still need more, namely at the back and a bit more creativity and goal threat.

Yes, I remember the two of us salivating about Big Shaq back in the day. I'd say we're not short of options at the back - on paper we're fine. The problem is that they're constantly injured *cough* Matip *cough*. It's getting to the point where he should look to move to a less physically demanding league a la Agger. Who could also have been a Rolls Royce of a defender if things had gone differently...

[Steveo]

The cube has now unlocked two tight defences with two sublime passes to finish games off. Against teams set up up to park the bus he is a perfect understudy for Thiago.

Well played Shaqiri!

The cube... haha... Great post Pigsy and I totally agree