The Weekend’s Other Games 27/11/20

[miller0863]

So far so crap

Palace 0-0 Newcastle
Two very poor teams.

[justme]

two both counter attacking teams.. Someone has to budge and it has to be Palace since they are the home team. But this the owl and he only knows one way to play

[Kev0909]

So far so crap

Palace 0-0 Newcastle
Two very poor teams.

you've not seen anything yet

Shef utd v wba still something to look forward too

[miller0863]

Early season 6 pointer that Kev

[stevie harkness]

Kinell two goals in two minutes for the barcodes

[miller0863]

Bruce’s tactics worked, as the Owl and his charges dozed off in the last five minutes, Newcastle took advantage, with Wilson and Joelinton scoring at the death.

F/T Crystal Palace 0-2 Newcastle

Newcastle 10th
Palace 13th

[Kev0909]

Palace without Zaha is basically shef utd

[miller0863]

Aye

[Kev0909]

City already 1-0 up, might aswell turn it off

[Kev0909]

2-0 Mahrez on fire

Burnley switch off, why couldn't brighton do that?

Make that 3-0 -playing in the champions league really effects em

[justme]

Burnley will kick lumps out of us, also having 5 players holding down Alisson like an hostage when theres a corner. oh and of course it will be allowed.

[ianlfc]

2-0 Mahrez on fire

Burnley switch off, why couldn't brighton do that?

Make that 3-0 -playing in the champions league really effects em

TBF they're at home to Burnley at 3 o'clock. We were away to Brighton, probably the furthest away from Anfield in the league for a 12.30 kick off.

[Kev0909]

TBF they're at home to Burnley at 3 o'clock. We were away to Brighton, probably the furthest away from Anfield in the league for a 12.30 kick off.

they take their chances though unlike us should of been up by 2 at HT at least

Saying that only today

[Kev0909]

5-0

[ianlfc]

they take their chances though unlike us should of been up by 2 at HT at least

Saying that only today

And we're top of the league.😆😆

[Kev0909]

And we're top of the league.����

Enjoy it while it lasts lols

[ianlfc]

Dortmund were beaten 2-1 at home by Koln who were in the bottom 3 before the game.

[Kev0909]

Haha love it "for the first time this evening richarlinson is rolling around"

" I've never seen a player go down so much" - carra

[miller0863]

Excellent strike by Rafinha from 25 yards.
Everton 0-1 Leeds
79 gone

[RedNoodle]

Excellent strike by Rafinha from 25 yards.
Everton 0-1 Leeds
79 gone

From the bits I've watched he's looked like their best player today.

[miller0863]

Leeds have been the better team just lacking a cutting edge, til that strike

[miller0863]

What a miss by Leeds to go 2-0

[miller0863]

So close again for Leeds. Much better than Everton
F/T Everton 0-1 Leeds

Fuck off you Bitter shite.

[Kev0909]

Topppp of the league.. oh wait aha

[miller0863]

4 defeats in 5 for the much improved title contenders

[southernboy]

No matter how bad we are, they always find a way to make me feel better ;)

[miller0863]

Leeds could be real top 6 contenders with a couple of additions.

As for Ancelotti and the bitter shite I will not forgive them for their behaviour during and after the derby. Fuck ‘em the fuckin fuckers.
Hope they get relegated and their best players all get fuckin injured. Karma you bitter bitter fuckwits.

[miller0863]

Everton have Burnley away then

Chelsea
Arsenal
Leicester
Sheff Utd
Man City

By then we should be over the hill and far away.

[Balinkay]

So is Everton's DVD release pushed back a week now? I'm confused?

Also they can't really afford to keep being... well Everton for much longer, considering their outlays.

[miller0863]

Farhad Moshiri has an estimated net worth of $2.5 billion US. So there’s a bit left yet.

[RedNoodle]

Farhad Moshiri has an estimated net worth of $2.5m US. So there’s a bit left yet.

That won't get them too much.

[miller0863]

Ha! $2.5 billion US

[RedNoodle]

Ha! $2.5 billion US

They won't have to sell as many DVD's now.

[RedNoodle]

Gallagher gives West Brom the lead.

[skyebo]

Wearing that colour top, Sheff Utd don't deserve anything.

[RedNoodle]

Wearing that colour top, Sheff Utd don't deserve anything.

Maybe they would have had better 'luck' if they could have used five subs per game.

[Balinkay]

Farhad Moshiri has an estimated net worth of $2.5 billion US. So there’s a bit left yet.

True, but there's a difference between the owner's and the club's money. Furthermore, even if he does bankroll them ad infinitum, they will get into FFP trouble. And as rich as he is, he doesn't have the backing of a major player on the international stage to bribe everyone and everything to get them out, unlike some CERTAIN OTHER CLUBS WHICH SHALL REMAIN NAMELESS.

Besides, at some point he'll pull the plug if they can't sustain themselves financially. What's in it for him otherwise?

[Kev0909]

Someones getting sacked soon

[miller0863]

My word that bit of Brewster business is looking pretty good from our end right now.

[Kev0909]

My word that bit of Brewster business is looking pretty good from our end right now.

not really his fault when they're fuckin terrible

fk knows why he went there

how did they not score?

[miller0863]

No, not his fault but I don’t get the feeling he’s gonna make it as a Premier League striker.
Championship maybe. We’ll find out next season, or so it seems right now.

[justme]

Swansea suited Brewster better because they are a passing team and try and play in the oppositions half. So Brewster got a chance to be in and around the box.
Sheffield united right now are to deep and theres far to much space between the middle and forward line. I dont see Brewster being able to run with the ball and create chances for himself.. Last season before the lock down Sheffield United were on the front foot and pressed the ball very well.

[ianlfc]

Someones getting sacked soon

Fuck sake, we're top of the league!!

Oh, Chris 5 subs Wilder

[Balinkay]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En7eVwHW8AAQN8T?format=jpg&name=medium

Any particular reason James's line isn't drawn from the end of his sleeve???

[miller0863]

Because it doesn’t suit the agenda. One of the many reasons why those of us who detest VAR do so. Absolutely no consistency

[Balinkay]

I fucking hate the way it's being applied. The tech is amazing, but they're really really not using it to its full potential. The whole point was to reduce discussions and instead it's made them so much worse.

Like in that image ^. If they draw the line from the defender's sleeve James is still offside, but not by much.

[ianlfc]

I fucking hate the way it's being applied. The tech is amazing, but they're really really not using it to its full potential. The whole point was to reduce discussions and instead it's made them so much worse.

Like in that image ^. If they draw the line from the defender's sleeve James is still offside, but not by much.

Just use thicker lines and that eliminates the small measures that getting on everyone's nerves.

[Balinkay]

Just use thicker lines and that eliminates the small measures that getting on everyone's nerves.

Does it? Then the lines would be overlapping and we'd just be looking at which line starts closer to the goal, basically bringing us back to pixel-thin lines.

[ianlfc]

Does it? Then the lines would be overlapping and we'd just be looking at which line starts closer to the goal, basically bringing us back to pixel-thin lines.

Then the player is on side. Gap in the lines , offside. No gap,onside.

[Balinkay]

Then the player is on side. Gap in the lines , offside. No gap,onside.

But even that changes nothing - it just moves the offside line 5 inches back. It's still a one-pixel binary decision - if there's a pixel wide gap -> offisde. Otherwise onside. That's no different to "this line is behind the other by one pixel".

[ianlfc]

But even that changes nothing - it just moves the offside line 5 inches back. It's still a one-pixel binary decision - if there's a pixel wide gap -> offisde. Otherwise onside. That's no different to "this line is behind the other by one pixel".

Then when you take away the lines you should be able to see if the player is offside.

I honestly don't think it was thought out properly.

[Balinkay]

Then when you take away the lines you should be able to see if the player is offside.

I honestly don't think it was thought out properly.

They could definitely do it better, we agree on that. Don't like the idea of "you should be able to see" as it's so subjective. My goal would be to remove all subjectivity from the decision, just like we do with goal line technology. It's essentially the same geometrical problem.

I'm personally a big friend of the lines - if one pixel is off, you're off. No ifs buts and maybes. However, they're not being applied as well or as transparently as they should imo.

[justme]

Just do what they do in horse racing(with a photo finish)what ever part of the attackers body crosses the line is offside..if its level its onside. no more fking armpits and arses and so on.
Theres always a chance of an error.. But right now theres wayyyy more errors in these stupid lines.

[ianlfc]

They could definitely do it better, we agree on that. Don't like the idea of "you should be able to see" as it's so subjective. My goal would be to remove all subjectivity from the decision, just like we do with goal line technology. It's essentially the same geometrical problem.

I'm personally a big friend of the lines - if one pixel is off, you're off. No ifs buts and maybes. However, they're not being applied as well or as transparently as they should imo.

Highly paid referees who are sitting in a office looking at a TV screen "should be able to see"
Not joe public.

[LEGS]

One thing that would improve things "slightly" is if fans/tv can hear what is being said by VAR and the ref.

You can hear the dialogue at rugby & cricket so why not football ???

I may have turned David Icke here but I think we are being screwed over on purpose the worst decision Sheff Utd at home their player was outside the box yet VAR gave it !

[RedNoodle]

Bednarek gives Southampton the lead.

[RedNoodle]

The Saint's keeper just comes up with a double save to deny the Red Mancs an equaliser.

[RedNoodle]

Ward Prowse scores from a free kick after taking the corner that lead to the first goal.

[miller0863]

Excellent from Utd so far.
Southampton 2-0 Utd

[skyebo]

Cavani must be wondering why he came over here. He's always on the bench.

[RedNoodle]

Cavani must be wondering why he came over here. He's always on the bench.

I can think of around fourteen million reasons why he came over here.

[skyebo]

I can think of around fourteen million reasons why he came over here.

Maybe, but how many poor footballers play at the top level. Surely at his age he wants to start more games than he is doing.

[skyebo]

There's only the CL keeping Solskjaer in a job. Once they are out of that, he's gone.

[RedNoodle]

Maybe, but how many poor footballers play at the top level. Surely at his age he wants to start more games than he is doing.

I think you're underestimating how much of a motivator money is to not just footballers, but people in general. If they can't get a high paying gig at a club who will not only challenge for trophies, but where they will get regular playing time, the next most preferable alternative for most players is to get any kind of high paying gig, even if it means largely getting splinters in their backsides.

[RedNoodle]

There's only the CL keeping Solskjaer in a job. Once they are out of that, he's gone.

We'd better hope that he does 'reasonably' well in it then.

[skyebo]

We'd better hope that he does 'reasonably' well in it then.

There's only one manager in Manchester that i'm concerned about, and it's not him.

[RedNoodle]

Fernandes pulls a goal back for the Mancs.

[skyebo]

Fernandes pulls a goal back for the Mancs.

We should have gone for him.

[Kev0909]

We should have gone for him.

Doesn't get injured enough for us to go for him

[skyebo]

Doesn't get injured enough for us to go for him

True.

[RedNoodle]

Cavani equalises.

[buck3y3nut]

Shady penalty for the mancs in injury time coming up.

[RedNoodle]

Shady penalty for the mancs in injury time coming up.

Nope. Just a late Cavani goal.

****s! :mad:

[southernboy]

We should have gone for him.

Gutted that we didn’t. Excellent player.

[skyebo]

Gutted that we didn’t. Excellent player.

Indeed. At least he gets goals from midfield and his fair share of assists.

[southernboy]

Fair play to the mancs, but Southampton were so negative in that second half.

[Steveo]

Yep United should have scored first half to be fair too. 2:0 to the Saints was no reflection of the game

An 8th successive away win for the Manc filth.

[Kev0909]

Same old utd

Cavani changed the game when he came on southampton went to trash tho

[ianlfc]

I thought our match yesterday was poor, but this Chelsea spurs games is worse.

[3underpar]

Yep, just about unwatchable especially with yellow cards for ticky tak fouls left and right.

[skyebo]

Glad i've not bothered with it then.

[ianlfc]

If Harry Kane manages to score, Martin Tyler will come in his pants !!

[ianlfc]

Glad i've not bothered with it then.

It's bloody awful.

[southernboy]

I genuinely believe that the Premier League could soon be losing its worldwide appeal. VAR ruining it as a spectacle... most matches are beyond poor. Games like this don’t help.

[Steveo]

Giroud had a glorious chance to nick it... Then Zouma nearly gifts the game to Spurs at the death..

[justme]

ZZZZ so Jose this kind of game.. lets see how it works out when his team needs to win matches

[ianlfc]

I genuinely believe that the Premier League could soon be losing its worldwide appeal. VAR ruining it as a spectacle... most matches are beyond poor. Games like this don’t help.

100%

[teesred]

ZZZZ so Jose this kind of game.. lets see how it works out when his team needs to win matches

Yep. Typical shithouse football from him.

[southernboy]

There was a time when I would watch every televised Premier League game. Now I watch perhaps one in four games. There are so many mediocre teams. At least we tend to provide some drama even when we don’t play well.

[skyebo]

I genuinely believe that the Premier League could soon be losing its worldwide appeal. VAR ruining it as a spectacle... most matches are beyond poor. Games like this don’t help.

I wonder what fans from other leagues think of VAR.

[ianlfc]

There was a time when I would watch every televised Premier League game. Now I watch perhaps one in four games. There are so many mediocre teams. At least we tend to provide some drama even when we don’t play well.

We've wall to wall football and I'm the same, unless it's us I'm not bothered. I do enjoy bt sport on Champions league night when weren't playing when the show the goals as they go in.
I'll have the football on the TV ,but be on here or doing some paperwork.

[ianlfc]

Celtic fans losing their shit outside Celtic park, fighting with police.

[Insidious]

ZZZZ so Jose this kind of game.. lets see how it works out when his team needs to win matches

Were Maureen's players "stunning and brave" in this "Mourinho Masterclass" I wonder?

Joint top after 10 games and all the injuries. Can't believe (well, I can) they never go for it in these situations. Could have been two points clear, which would be huge for Spurs!

[ianlfc]

They could definitely do it better, we agree on that. Don't like the idea of "you should be able to see" as it's so subjective. My goal would be to remove all subjectivity from the decision, just like we do with goal line technology. It's essentially the same geometrical problem.

I'm personally a big friend of the lines - if one pixel is off, you're off. No ifs buts and maybes. However, they're not being applied as well or as transparently as they should imo.

I've just read an article in the Liverpool echo website about the Dutch league and they are going against FIFA and using thicker lines as I said.
I remember Jurgen saying this ages ago and that's were I got it from, things was a better idea.
No idea how to post it up but feel free to Google the var rules in the Dutch league.

[Steveo]

Jimenez stretchered off - nasty clash of heads with David Luiz. Looks bad

[miller0863]

Are they using VAR in the Champions League?
I can’t remember..

[ianlfc]

Are they using VAR in the Champions League?
I can’t remember..

Yeah.

[miller0863]

Don’t remember us having any issues with it in Europe so far.

[miller0863]

Arsenal 0-1 Wolves
Neto 28 mins

[miller0863]

That didn’t last long
Arsenal 1-1 Wolves
Gabrielle 30 mins

[miller0863]

Decent game
Arsenal 1-2 Wolves
Podence 42

[miller0863]

28 games since Adama Traore last scored for Wolves.
How much were they quoting for him again??

[ianlfc]

That Podence is very like Jota.

[ianlfc]

28 games since Adama Traore last scored for Wolves.
How much were they quoting for him again??

About £100 million last season !!

[ianlfc]

Aubameyang has had no goals and 4 shots on target at the Emirites since he signed his new bumper contract.

[Insidious]

That Podence is very like Jota.

Think he has 3-and-a-half years on his deal come January, so would not be cheap.

[ianlfc]

We've Wolves up next at Anfield in the league and going by the bad injury ,I'd be amazed if Jimenez plays.
Also the prospect of Traore running at Neco Williams!!

[miller0863]

Traore plays down the right and Robbo really struggles to contain him. Think he’s Robbo’s nemesis

[miller0863]

Traore booked for diving when there was more contact than for Brighton’s equaliser.

This is exactly why those of us who hate VAR are so against it. Yesterday it was used against us for officials desperate to affect the result against us, today it’s not even looked at and the player brought down gets booked.

It’s a bloody farce

[ianlfc]

Traore booked for diving when there was more contact than for Brighton’s equaliser.

This is exactly why those of us who hate VAR are so against it. Yesterday it was used against us for officials desperate to affect the result against us, today it’s not even looked at and the player brought down gets booked.

It’s a bloody farce

Hardly a mention from the commentator about it.

[ianlfc]

Traore plays down the right and Robbo really struggles to contain him. Think he’s Robbo’s nemesis

well hopefully he stays down the right . Neto is also a decent player all in all they've a more than decent squad.

[miller0863]

They are mate, Neto v Neco would be a car crash. We’ll have to play Fabinho there surely

[ianlfc]

They are mate, Neto v Neco would be a car crash. We’ll have to play Fabinho there surely

I've looked up Fabinho and he's played right back in the past , the only thing is we are at Anfield and our play suits an attacking full back and Fabinho doesn't have the pace to get up and down the flank.

[miller0863]

He’s played several games there for Brazil and pretty sure he’s played a game there flair us

[ianlfc]

He’s played several games there for Brazil and pretty sure he’s played a game there flair us

I've put a line up on the Ajax thread.

[southernboy]

Not a great weekend for us but could have been so much worse. Amazing that injury ravaged Liverpool are equal top with high-flying spurs.

[teesred]

I think he played RB for Monaco a few times too so it's not an unfamiliar position for him.

[Balinkay]

I think he played RB for Monaco a few times too so it's not an unfamiliar position for him.

RM too iirc.

[Insidious]

Not a great weekend for us but could have been so much worse. Amazing that injury ravaged Liverpool are equal top with high-flying spurs.

Yes indeed.

The key for us will be to get more players back in from the treatment room than the numbers going out due to injury.

Returns of Ox, Keita, Milner, Shaqiri and Thiago would open several midfield doors, which in turn gives us more flexibility should we need to persist with Fabinho at centre-back or have Henderson do a game or two back there as Matip definitely isn't a guy who can play midweek+the weekend very often.

[jr81]

Yes indeed.

The key for us will be to get more players back in from the treatment room than the numbers going out due to injury.

Returns of Ox, Keita, Milner, Shaqiri and Thiago would open several midfield doors, which in turn gives us more flexibility should we need to persist with Fabinho at centre-back or have Henderson do a game or two back there as Matip definitely isn't a guy who can play midweek+the weekend very often.

Oh for a 2 week International break 😊

[miller0863]

Leicester v Fulham being played in monsoon conditions.
Leicester free kick hits the wall, follow up shot rebounds off the post, falls again to a Leicester player who this time hits the bar.
20 minutes in 0-0.
Fulham the only team to have conceded more goals in the opening 15 minutes (6) than us (4).
Interesting if a touch worrying stat.

[miller0863]

29 minutes gone and the deadlock is broken on the counter.
Leicester 0-1 Fulham
Lookman

[RedNoodle]

That came completely against the run of play.

[miller0863]

Fulham rightly awarded a penalty through VAR

[miller0863]

And Cavalero ..... scores
Leicester 0-2 Fulham
38 mins

[Crimson Dynasty]

Could someone please sit me down and explain to me what the hell is going on this season with these crazy results all over the place?

Leicester have a chance to go second with a simple 1-0 win at home, and they find themselves 2 down at the half to relegation fodder (and everyone's pick to go back down again) Fulham?!?!??!

I mean,.....I want to put it down to just,...another Brendan team being a Brendan team, but this is just nuts.

Also, can we please get our act together and start stringing together some results since no one else seems to want it?

Still a lot of game left in this and Leicester could still come back and nick it (and let's be honest, they probably should), but this is wild.

[JAYPEA]

Could someone please sit me down and explain to me what the hell is going on this season with these crazy results all over the place?

Leicester have a chance to go second with a simple 1-0 win at home, and they find themselves 2 down at the half to relegation fodder (and everyone's pick to go back down again) Fulham?!?!??!

I mean,.....I want to put it down to just,...another Brendan team being a Brendan team, but this is just nuts.

Also, can we please get our act together and start stringing together some results since no one else seems to want it?

Still a lot of game left in this and Leicester could still come back and nick it (and let's be honest, they probably should), but this is wild.

It’s the league nobody wants to win. After big points won it last 3 years could be low 80s this year. Don’t think it will be less than 80 think United and arsenal both won PL with less than 80 points. A minnow could sneak in again like Leicester. United or Spurs.

[miller0863]

Our first 11 would be away and clear by now. We are so ravaged by injuries we are bound to be inconsistent.

[Kev0909]

Anyone who gets a decent score in the prediction thread, give them the top spot now and give me the lottery numbers for tuesday

Cheers

[Crimson Dynasty]

I really hope we do find out form and consistency soon(-ish).

I feel like this year might be one of those years when all you need to do is get just a little bit of separation at the top (like 4 or 5 points lead) and it'll take some beating for the rest of the chasing pack to hunt you down and catch you.

Certainly not the 18, 25 point lead we felt we had to build up last season by January, because we were worried that City were going to put that end season run they were known for and had put the two previous seasons (and they may yet still do so this season as well - from last weekend's result it looks like they might be finding their form again).

I also strongly believe that one or both of Spurs and Chelsea will stumble at some point and go on a dry patch of results and again, I can only hope we are on it then to take advantage,

[miller0863]

The officiating in the Premier League has become a lottery.
Fulham player shoved over from behind on the edge of the Leicester box, the free kick is inexplicably given to Leicester. In the minor skirmish that ensues, a Leicester player kicks out at a Fulham player who goes to remonstrate with the official.... nothing done. The whole incident encapsulates the inefficiency of our officials in this League, they are just woeful.

[miller0863]

Real chance for Lookman to make it 3-0 but he hits it straight at Schmeichel

[ianlfc]

The fa Cup 3rd round dree being done on BBC 1 in a minute

[Kev0909]

The fa Cup 3rd round dree being done on BBC 1 in a minute

hope we get someone easy so we can play the u18's we need the u21's !!

[miller0863]

We have had an awful run of domestic cup draws, the absolute opposite to Manchester City

[Kev0909]

We have had an awful run of domestic cup draws, the absolute opposite to Manchester City

Aye safe to say we'll go out early against anyone half-decent

Klopp will play a "3rd" team never mind the 2nd atm

[Crimson Dynasty]

Good result for us, with a team that should have overtaken us with a routine win at home against an "easy" team to beat.

But as we all know, that (...."easy teams") don't really exist in this league.

[miller0863]

Every single time

Villa v Liverpool always always a Premier Legue team and usually away.

Everton v Rotherham
Chelsea v Morecambe
Man City v Birmingham
Man Utd v Watford
Marine v Spurs

[miller0863]

Leicester already lost 4 games this season but only 3 points off the top.
Crazy

[ianlfc]

West ham vs Aston Villa, I'm actually planning on watching this. This lockdown corona virus has a lot to answer for.

[miller0863]

WHU v Villa
Antonio starts Barkley doesn’t, that should tip the balance in West Ham’s favour.

[southernboy]

You never know what you’re going to get with Villa. Having beaten Arsenal away, I reckon they’ll lose tonight.

[miller0863]

West Ham 1-0 Villa
Ogbonna 2 mins

[Steveo]

Quality commentary - As West Ham have a shot - Tyler suggests that Fabianski dives for it - except Fabianski is in West Hams goal not Villas. Just the wrong end of the pitch.

The Irons do score in the end through - Ogbonna

[RedNoodle]

I'd just like to say that Oliver Holt, Danny Kelly, and Sean C**tis are utter ****s.

[miller0863]

My least favourite combo on this one, Tyler and Smith, better with the sound off.

[miller0863]

Grealish 25
West Ham 1-1 Villa

[ianlfc]

"Grealish knows how to win fouls" Says Alan Smith. It's ok he's English.

[ianlfc]

My least favourite combo on this one, Tyler and Smith, better with the sound off.

Them two would be a joy on a night out !!

[Crimson Dynasty]

I'll be stunned if Grealish is still playing for this lot come next season.

[RedNoodle]

I know he won't, but I wish Klopp would tell the likes of BT, SKY and TalkS**t to "get ****ed" when they want an interview.

These ****s will be the first to moan when the quality of football decreases dramatically, and England go into yet another major championship with their best players carrying injuries, or unable to participate at all.

[miller0863]

Solskjaer said exactly the same as Klopp before he did. Saying they had been set up to fail and why didn’t they pick teams who had played on Tuesday instead of Wednesday for a 12:30 Saturday kick off.
Made a real point of it after they had played in Turkey in midweek.

But of course, it’s just Klopp that’s being provoked into discussing it over and over and getting flak.

[RedNoodle]

The hypocritical **** that is Danny Kelly just admitted that his view on concussions changed when Vertonghen (who was playing for his club) was on the receiving end of a head injury and ended up staggering all over the place.

Why do people like these never get pulled up on their hypocrisy/double standards.

[miller0863]

30 seconds into the second half, Villa caught cold again
West Ham 2-1 Villa
Bowen

[Steveo]

Them two would be a joy on a night out !!

An enforced night out with Smith and Lawro...

Now that really would have you driving the old forehead slowly down onto a blunt knife.

[miller0863]

Another absolutely ridiculous refereeing decision. Mings puts his arm around Haller’s neck and jumps into him, causing him to fall forward into the Villa man in front of him.
Haller get’s penalised, it actually should have been a penalty. Absolutely shocking officiating yet again

[miller0863]

Villa penalty for the slightest of contact. Again, the officials giving it at one end and not the other, they are deciding where points go in too many games. If you’re going to give it at one end you really have to be consistent and give it at the other.
The officials for this game have been utterly awful

Olly Watkins hits the bar with the pen anyway

Still 2-1

[RedNoodle]

Villa penalty for the slightest of contact. Again, the officials giving it at one end and not the other, they are deciding where points go in too many games. If you’re going to give it at one end you really have to be consistent and give it at the other.

The officials taking charge of games these days are utterly awful

Olly Watkins hits the bar with the pen anyway

Still 2-1

Fixed for you.

[miller0863]

Noods I actually think they are getting worse

[RedNoodle]

Noods I actually think they are getting worse

I don't think you'll find anyone with a least one semi functioning eye and/or brain cell who would disagree with you.

[Balinkay]

I don't think they're getting worse - just our expectations are now (rightfully) higher thanks to VAR. And they're not meeting them.

[miller0863]

Watkins finally finishing one in the 91st minute but VAR checking it. It’s a tight one which means it’s onside if those looking at it want Villa to score, off if they don’t.
The whole thing is a joke

Goal ruled out. This is not what the game’s about it really isn’t ... and I didn’t want Villa to score but that should have been allowed

[miller0863]

F/T WHU 2-1 Villa
Villa should have won that comfortably, lucky Irons.

[miller0863]

West Ham 5th and just 4 off the top

Er.....

[southernboy]

Stephanie Frappart will become the first woman to referee a men’s Champions League game when she oversees Juventus vs. Dynamo Kiev on Wednesday.

Maybe that’s the way forward.

[Balinkay]

She reffed our super cup game v Chelsea.

[Kev0909]

VAR being VAR proving that it's not just a agenda they have v liverpool

Must be villa too!

Who next?

Half the league?

[southernboy]

She reffed our super cup game v Chelsea.

Ah, right. Did okay if I recall correctly.

[Balinkay]

Ah, right. Did okay if I recall correctly.

Their pen was a bit iffy and Adrian was off his line when he saved Abraham's spot kick in the shoot out. Don't really remember anything else tbf.

[teesred]

Watkins finally finishing one in the 91st minute but VAR checking it. It’s a tight one which means it’s onside if those looking at it want Villa to score, off if they don’t.
The whole thing is a joke

Goal ruled out. This is not what the game’s about it really isn’t ... and I didn’t want Villa to score but that should have been allowed

I asked a while back that I wonder if anything would be done about it if there was enough protest.
If more players and managers speak out then they will simply have to review it. It's working but it's not making the game anymore enjoyable and for lots of fans its spoiling the game.

[southernboy]

If they only took the feet and head into account (the bits you can score with) that would be a start.

[Insidious]

Joint top after 10 games, with none of those with a game in hand able to catch us just yet.

"High-flying" Spurs aren't ahead of "injury-ravaged" Liverpool and are only level due to a VAR cock-up.

All things considered, I'll definitely take it.

So begins a 28-match League season where we have a head-start of at least 2 points on all but one side. :victorious:

[eggy81]

We better be in the shake up for grealish when the time comes. He’s going to be a monster for the next 6 or 7 years. Unbelievable player.

[miller0863]

He’s going to Utd, nailed on. He’s not a Klopp player, he comes alive with the ball at his feet, he’s not a worker pressing and tracking back for 90 minutes. He has improved that aspect of his game but I doubt Klopp sees him as our type.

[Steveo]

We better be in the shake up for grealish when the time comes. He’s going to be a monster for the next 6 or 7 years. Unbelievable player.

We were desperate for a proper CB in 2014/15/16/17 but only got Virgil - belatedly in 2018 ( December 27 2017 ) 'cause Barca were willing to blow €160 million on Coutinho. If we do go for Grealish he will come at a premium and comes at the cost of another star leaving and a lack of investment elsewhere.

We have been ducking domestic cups for years on account of a light squad stretched too thin. Despite this we get to a final for a second successive season - win it....and.... Sweet FA in terms of bolstering the squad!!

We then wait till this summer and ONLY after losing Lovren, Brewster, Clyne & Lallana do we bring in Jota and Thiago. We made a profit AGAIN this summer. Taking our total net spend since winning the Champions League in 2019 to the grand total of ..... wait for it..... £0....

Yes we would al love Grealish BUT at what cost..?

[skyebo]

We better be in the shake up for grealish when the time comes. He’s going to be a monster for the next 6 or 7 years. Unbelievable player.

I must admit, i'm warming to him now. Villa won't have him for too long if he carries on playing like he is doing.

[miller0863]

They’ll want at least £100m

[skyebo]

They’ll want at least £100m

We've spent that on 3 crocks Shaqiri Keita and Oxlade- Chamberlain. Fitness wise, he wouldn't be a gamble.

[justme]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Crocodilia_montage.jpg
These kinda crocs?

[skyebo]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/Crocodilia_montage.jpg
These kinda crocks?

Haha

[justme]

Seriously though, the likes of Shaqiri and Keita are forever injured. They don't seem capable of playing at the pace they are expected to at LFC.. They always break down with muscle injuries.
I feel sorry for Oxlade though hes just had no look with injuries. Hes a very talented footballer and often gets kicked because of cloggers in the opposition. But even hes living on borrowed. One more long term injury that will be it for him with us.

No one knows when Matip will break down, Sadly its going to happen. Lets hope he can make it until Jan and we can get in replacements (if we do that is).

[eggy81]

The thoughts of jota salah and mane profiting from the space that grealish control and sublime skill would create while him being fed the ball instantly by Thiago is very very appetising. Admittedly it would probably take a tweak in system and shape to squeeze him in and possibly a shift in position for salah or mane. Long shot know in fairness.

[Kev0909]

He'll be at utd next season sorry folks

[justme]

Good luck with getting Grealish and Ferandes in the same 11

[Balinkay]

We've spent that on 3 crocks Shaqiri Keita and Oxlade- Chamberlain. Fitness wise, he wouldn't be a gamble.

Isn't he a huge party boy? That fitness won't hold for long if he drinks too often.

[teesred]

We've spent that on 3 crocks Shaqiri Keita and Oxlade- Chamberlain. Fitness wise, he wouldn't be a gamble.

Absolutely. Talk about money down the drain. Their wages on the period theyve been at LFC would probably pay for him.
I like him despite seeming like hes a champagne Charlie and I agree with Miller that hes not a Klopp type player really but he could defo make him into a world star.
He'll go to Utd after we've signed Sancho. I'll take that scenario.

[teesred]

I'd like us to sign Rice. He is going to be great, probably nailed on to go to Chrlsea to play alongside his boyfriend Mount.

[skyebo]

Isn't he a huge party boy? That fitness won't hold for long if he drinks too often.

I don't know anything about what he does outside of Football, but if he goes to parties, there's no saying he drinks alcohol. If he does, then he's an idiot.

[Balinkay]

I don't know anything about what he does outside of Football, but if he goes to parties, there's no saying he drinks alcohol. If he does, then he's an idiot.

I thought I'd read that he'd got into trouble over multiple times that in the past. Could be wrong though.

[eggy81]

Good luck with getting Grealish and Ferandes in the same 11

IMO they’d be unstoppable together in front of the right defensive midfielder.

[justme]

IMO they’d be unstoppable together in front of the right defensive midfielder.

But you have to defend you need more than one midfielder.. Otherwise they would spend half their time running backwards.

[Balinkay]

IMO they’d be unstoppable together in front of the right defensive midfielder.

Claude Makelele? Short of that I see them being in trouble.

[Kev0909]

Good luck with getting Grealish and Ferandes in the same 11

Good luck with FSG buying him without selling Salah

Think they'd find a way just fine

Alot of players out there that would improve us

But we just have to hope the next big "unknown" works out for us as it has so far (I say unknown noone that hyped up)

[justme]

Good luck with FSG buying him without selling Salah

Think they'd find a way just fine

Alot of players out there that would improve us

But we just have to hope the next big "unknown" works out for us as it has so far (I say unknown noone that hyped up)

They would find a way OK clever clogs.. Has for our midfield. over the last 2 seasons. its actually worked hasnt it?? we have 3 work men like midfielders.
Its ok winning 2/3 games playing sublime football. Its the in between games that matters. its how consistent you are.
For all the greatness of Fernandes and so on. They are still miles behind the top teams and they will still lose more than they win.
You can't have a team with 2 attacking midfielders who basically play in the same position. Your going to be found out on the counter attack.
Has for buying Grealish even if we had the money. Its not a signing Klopp would go for..

[justme]

I would like to see how Grealish copes with teams that play the low block and put two players around him.. Its ok when he gets space in between the midfield and back line of the opposition as the opposition tend to be more open against Villa..
Its not so easy when teams have no intention of attacking but set out simply to block every space in front of them..

[miller0863]

Would rather spend the money on Haaland personally but each to their own.
There is a feeling Grealish holds in to the ball too long which is why he is the most fouled player in the league. To be at our most affective our front three need the ball moving quickly.

[Balinkay]

I also don't particularly like Grealish. But he is English, so we'll get approximately 900% more penalties

[justme]

And for what its worth, I cant see Grealish leaving in the summer. He signed a 5 year deal last summer

Anyway i'm sensing negativity about us right now. But we are joint top of the league and top of our champions league group..
if it wasn't for VAR and us being robbed in at least 2 games we would have 4 point lead in the league.
The likes of TAA will be back soon and Keita doesn't look like he will be out for long. Hopefully the others will get fit as well pretty soon. (apart from Gomez and VVD)

[justme]

Would rather spend the money on Haaland personally but each to their own.
There is a feeling Grealish holds in to the ball too long which is why he is the most fouled player in the league. To be at our most affective our front three need the ball moving quickly.
Yeah i'm with you on the Haaland signing. We need and out an out striker.. For all his good work Firmino doesnt score enough.

[Kev0909]

Would rather spend the money on Haaland personally but each to their own.
There is a feeling Grealish holds in to the ball too long which is why he is the most fouled player in the league. To be at our most affective our front three need the ball moving quickly.

Same but it's not going to happen sooo

Oh well

P.S grealish can play on the left too not that I want him anyway, are midfield is to creatitive and goalscoring enough, plus he's not injury prone

Maybe we can get a foreign similar playing for x10 cheaper who knows

can't see us getting another midfielder unless Wij doesn't get a contract- other postions need sorting more

[eggy81]

I would like to see how Grealish copes with teams that play the low block and put two players around him.. Its ok when he gets space in between the midfield and back line of the opposition as the opposition tend to be more open against Villa..
Its not so easy when teams have no intention of attacking but set out simply to block every space in front of them..

Teams are already double and triple marking him. He’s great at sucking 2 or 3 in and finding the right pass. I do think in our as it stands now it might be tough to squeeze him in but he’s absolutely class imho. I hope the CS mancs don’t get him.

[stevie harkness]

I thought I'd read that he'd got into trouble over multiple times that in the past. Could be wrong though.

Grealish was linked with us last season but it all went quiet after his partying and driving offences.