Brazil.

[teesred]

I'm just watching a BBC programme about Braziland Argentina and the involvement of politics in the 70 and 78 world cups.
It's got me thinking about Brazil. By the time the next world cup comes around they wont have won a world cup for 20 years and dont look likely to soon.
Why dont Brazil produce the type of squads they were so used to? Is it because of their economy becoming so large, is it due to the consumer world we live in and the poverty stricken streets that used to produce footballers now using football as an outlet less and less?
Aside from Neymar who's the next superstar? There just doesn't seem to be a next gen batch of players from them. I dont see a south American team winning the world cup anytime soon really.

[justme]

I think the pace of the game plays a big part it in. Players are unbelievably fit now. Secondly the low block has become a massive part of the oppositions armoury. Brazils style of football gets swamped they don't get the time on the ball like they use to..
In the past Eventually they would tire teams down with the passing ability. But not so now.

[ianlfc]

Growing up there was the great mystery and flair of the Brazilian footballers . sadly for kids nowadays they see the star players week in week out so they're nothing special come the world cup.
As for Superstars, Big Ali is good enough for me.!!

[ianlfc]

oh and Fabinho 🤣🤣🤣

[miller0863]

Yeah. Pity about Bobby...

[ianlfc]

Yeah. Pity about Bobby...

The 2 forum whipping boys 😂😂

[teesred]

I think the pace of the game plays a big part it in. Players are unbelievably fit now. Secondly the low block has become a massive part of the oppositions armoury. Brazils style of football gets swamped they don't get the time on the ball like they use to..
In the past Eventually they would tire teams down with the passing ability. But not so now.

Good points. Funny you mention fitness, that documentary says that the Brazil side in 66 were not equipped well enough physically so there was total focus on fitness for the 1970 one which they obviously blitzed.

[teesred]

Growing up there was the great mystery and flair of the Brazilian footballers . sadly for kids nowadays they see the star players week in week out so they're nothing special come the world cup.
As for Superstars, Big Ali is good enough for me.!!

Definitely a superstar our Ali. I mean I terms of their next poster boy. I thought that Vinicius lad at Real might have been one but I dont think he looks in the same league as Neymar (and I dont rate him as much as most).

[Balinkay]

The 2 forum whipping boys ����

Not really - just 19x's obsession with Hendo at DM and Kev's perception that a lot of us think Bobby can do no wrong. I mean Kev's wasn't particularly eloquev or kevel-headed when he brought it up, but I think he's made some good points along the way. It's not it a kevative way he means it, rather he's trying to be kevstructive and posikev about how the team can do better.

As for 19x... I'm not starting that fire. :D

[ianlfc]

Not really - just 19x's obsession with Hendo at DM and Kev's perception that a lot of us think Bobby can do no wrong. I mean Kev's wasn't particularly eloquev or kevel-headed when he brought it up, but I think he's made some good points along the way. It's not it a kevative way he means it, rather he's trying to be kevstructive and posikev about how the team can do better.

As for 19x... I'm not starting that fire. :D
Both are definitely on the wind up, which I like. It gets people talking.
Also, neither get nasty about it which is also a plus. Two good lads.

[Balinkay]

Very much so!

[miller0863]

Aye I concur

[dicko1969]

Brazilians abroad (2018/19)

Europe 824
Asia 306
Americas* 105

1,235 professionals playing abroad !

Must have a knock on effect on the national team.
Both positive and negative.

Perhaps the wow factor being coached out of them.

Both Neymar and Ronaldinho were rough diamonds when they arrived in Europe.

I remember when Ronaldinho was at PSG he always made the wrong pass or tried too much.

Yet at Barcelona it was the right pass.

In Brazil there are still some good young players coming through of course.

But at the moment players abroad I'd say the french are the current trend.