Southampton v Liverpool (Match Thread)

[RedNoodle]

Southampton

Forster, Walker-Peters, Bednarek, Stephens, Bertrand, Djenepo, Ward-Prowse, Diallo, Armstrong, Ings, Walcott.

Subs: Long, Valery, Smallbone, Tella, Vokins, Ramsay, N’Lundulu, Lewis, Chauke.

Liverpool

Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Henderson, Fabinho, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Thiago, Salah, Firmino, Mane.

Subs: Milner, Jones, Minamino, Shaqiri, Origi, Rhys Williams, Phillips, Kelleher, Neco Williams.

Referee

Andre Marriner.

[Nineteenx]

Alisson

Trent Henderson Fabinho Robertson

Oxlade Thiago Wijnaldum

Salah Firmino Mane

Good line up, would have preferred Hendo at CM and Rhys Williams starting at CB as I always believe the best way to protect our defence is to have Hendo and Gini plus one other at RCM in our midfield, desperate to see Hendo, Gini and Thiago in midfield with the 3 rotating as they did at their best in that run of fifteen back to back wins last season.

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, let's be as good as we can possibly be tonight, start the new year with a win and another vital 3 points and then put together a long run of back to back wins together

[Insidious]

Cheers Noods.

Come on lads!

[justme]

Nice solid start and take it from there!

[Nineteenx]

Kick off imminent, Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, start well, get yourselves in front, extend that lead, get yourselves the win and another vital 3 points tonight

[justincredible]

Good man Noods.

H'on the Reds..!!

[Steveo]

Would think Robbo will be doubly busy trying to take care of Walcott - the thought of the ex Arse - long haired lover v Hendo or Fab fills me with dread.

[RedNoodle]

Come on the Reds!!!!!

[CCTV]

3 points please lads :)

[Steveo]

That took long ings - already

Oh dear. 1:0

[Nineteenx]

1-0 Southampton, great finish by Ings, Trent completely missing a ball he should have cleared, was never even a free kick either, Thiago basically touched their lad, it wasn't a drag back or a pull

[miller0863]

So it starts.
Trent carelessly gives the ball away in 2 minutes allowing them to put the ball in the box and Ings scores.

So filuckin stupid it’s actually incredible

[southernboy]

Nice solid start and take it from there!

Lolz

[RedNoodle]

That took long ings - already

Oh dear. 1:0

What did I ****ing say in my predictions post not a few minutes back!!!!!

FFS!!!!! :mad: x many.

[Artisan]

Knew it...

[3underpar]

Trent jesus wept

[CCTV]

Was that kick Ingss first touch of the ball ?
Down by a goal after 2 mins :(

[miller0863]

Two Trent fuck ups for their goal in 30 seconds.

[Insidious]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Better now than the 89th minute I guess, what a poor start!

[justme]

Yep Taa doesn seem to care right now the way hes acting

[CCTV]

Trent jesus wept

Yup, where was the rcb though ?

Is it Hendo or Gini ?

[Steveo]

Bobby with a shot - misses the target

[miller0863]

Chance one misses the target (Bobby)

[Kev0909]

what a start

WHAT A CB PAIRING

bobby misseD?

lol

haha good one

[miller0863]

And Thiago booked already. Could not have been a worse start.

[Nineteenx]

Nice and calm here now lads, get on the ball, get your game going, get yourselves level

[RedNoodle]

I'm going to go with the prediction that first popped into my head, but I'm probably going to be way off, possibly in small part as a result of us not having the cover that we should have and Henderson being shifted into defence as a result.

Southampton 1-3 Liverpool

I can see Ings getting at least one goal against us.

:mad:

[CCTV]

Are we playing with a back 4 ?

[eggy81]

We’ve started in the same vein again. Mistakes and loose touches all over the place.

[miller0863]

By the way, Southampton have just had two consecutive 0-0 draws.

[RedNoodle]

Are we playing with a back 4 ?

No. We're playing with two midfielders, a right winger, and a LB.

[CCTV]

Klopp fuming, as is usual

[Crimson Dynasty]

I see Trent continues on his "great" run of form since the restart.

[RedNoodle]

By the way, Southampton have just had two consecutive 0-0 draws.

Yep. I had a butchers at their forum (as I do for many of our opponents) and most of them would have bitten your hand off for a draw.

[Steveo]

Very worried about Hendo in that CB position. If they get a second here we are getting smashed

[RedNoodle]

Klopp fuming, as is usual

Maybe he should use some of that fume to tell FSG to back him to the hilt or he's off.

[CCTV]

No. We're playing with two midfielders, a right winger, and a LB.

I can see Fabinho is playing CB, Hendo doesn't look to be playing as a CB imo.

[Steveo]

Maybe he should use some of that fume to tell FSG to back him to the hilt or he's off.

Not his style.

[Steveo]

I can see Fabinho is playing CB, Hendo doesn't look to be playing as a CB imo.

Tiddlywinks as he skies one twice the height of the goal from well inside the box

[RedNoodle]

What kind of p.poor ball was that Ox?

[RedNoodle]

Not his style.

Maybe he needs to mix up his 'style' a bit.

[CCTV]

Trent with a good outball for Mane, who plays it to Salad who has a heavy touch but chases it down, ball comes to the right and Trent crosses it and it nearly comes to one of our goalscorers.

Moments later ox wins a corner

[miller0863]

Another pathetic attempt goes way over

[eggy81]

I can see Fabinho is playing CB, Hendo doesn't look to be playing as a CB imo.
He is

[Crimson Dynasty]

Why does Henderson always sky his shots like that?

I'll never understand that.

Just keep it on the ground.
Better chance for a ricochet or a kind rebound to a teammate that way rather than just hand it back to the opposition essentially.

[CCTV]

Gini goes close with a header, It gobbles about, Mane get a it to hen do who shoots over

[RedNoodle]

FFS Henderson!!! Learn how to score a non long range goal.

That kind of thing is why we need some creative/potent midfielders.

[Steveo]

Why does Henderson always sky his shots like that?

I'll never understand that.

Just keep it on the ground.
Better chance for a ricochet or a kind rebound to a teammate that way rather than just hand it back to the opposition essentially.

Has never had a strike on him. Robbo in the book too

[eggy81]

Constant poor choices when we get space to pick a pass

[CCTV]

Why does Henderson always sky his shots like that?

I'll never understand that.

Just keep it on the ground.
Better chance for a ricochet or a kind rebound to a teammate that way rather than just hand it back to the opposition essentially.

He leans back too much, it's a goofy technique and he doesn't pull it off regularly

[Nineteenx]

Robbo booked for kicking Armstrong who dived to win Southamptons free kick they scored from, then dragged Robbo back but nothing doing, so Robbo lamped him

[Crimson Dynasty]

Robbo getting himself carded for a silly foul after running himself into trouble.

[RedNoodle]

FFS Robertson!!!

We're going to get a player sent off. I can feel/see it coming.

[Crimson Dynasty]

What the fuck is Trent doing?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?

[Nineteenx]

Has never had a strike on him. Robbo in the book too

Except that one v Chelsea that was goal of the season

[CCTV]

Except that one v Chelsea that was goal of the season

He has poor technique, leans back and goes off balance.

[miller0863]

Offside or not, Salah hits it straight at the keeper

[Nineteenx]

Mo offside, no need to go early there

[Steveo]

Except that one v Chelsea that was goal of the season

Oh yes silly me. No no quite right he has a consistently brilliant strike all backed up by the long list of screamers that mount with each passing season.

:D :D

Would bite a finger off for one tonight..

[CCTV]

Thiago to Mane, who flicks one into Mo whose offside, Forester does well to get out quick and snuff the chance, not that it would have counted

[Crimson Dynasty]

Allisson gets away with one after giving it straight to Walcott.


What the hell is wrong with our team out there?

Is it the teal kits?

[RedNoodle]

Forster has kept four clean sheets in his last five games against us.

That's all I needed to hear.

[miller0863]

We’re in panic mode here. We need to settle down and play. Our away for has been absolutely awful at times

[CCTV]

Eh, let's get the next goal ffs

[RedNoodle]

Hendo at CB is compounded by having Wijnaldum (who is possibly/probably off) in midfield.

[Nineteenx]

As Brad Pitt said in some Guy Ritchie film, "Need to have a shite" things had better improve in my absence

[eggy81]

Sick of looking at endless crosses from us. Need more punch through the middle

[CCTV]

Rear neck choke on Salah so it's a throw in to Southampton

[RedNoodle]

Sick of looking at endless crosses from us. Need more punch through the middle

With our midfield? Good luck with that.

[Steveo]

Could have been 2:0 there - poor strike from the Saints

[miller0863]

How does Ings get that ball so easily with two men on him. Wake up ffs this is crap again

[Crimson Dynasty]

Henderson having a go at Trent after he misses his assignment again and the Saints get another free shot at goal.

[RedNoodle]

Unless we get serious reinforcements this month, I can see us sliding down the table.

[miller0863]

Not created anything for 15 minutes. The lack of shots on target since Palace is extremely worrying

[Steveo]

Trent is coming off second best in everything. And Alan Smith agrees

[CCTV]

Salah delays the pass for I'd, who's gone beyond him, Salah eventually passes the ball forward but ox had turned his back on the ball and didn't see it coming forward:(

[LFC-DPG]

Unless we get serious reinforcements this month

You know that’s not going to happen

[RedNoodle]

Trent is coming off second best in everything. And Alan Smith agrees

He's been p,poor, but Klopp is going to keep playing him, which I think he would do even if we had some decent backup.

[RedNoodle]

You know that’s not going to happen

Yep. Which is why I can see us sliding down the table.

[CCTV]

Trent gets pulled for a tug, yet Salah wasn't given a free for a rear choke

Fook off ref

[Insidious]

Salah delays the pass for I'd, who's gone beyond him, Salah eventually passes the ball forward but ox had turned his back on the ball and didn't see it coming forward:(

I swore big time at that.

Trent isn't on it at all tonight and Thiago needs to release it more quickly at times.

Can foresee a better second-hand, simply because you imagine Klopp dishes out a bollocking after this.

[teesred]

Trent is coming off second best in everything. And Alan Smith agrees

Having a nitemare already. What the hell is the matter with him at the moment.

[CCTV]

I swore big time at that.

Trent isn't on it at all tonight and Thiago needs to release it more quickly at times.

Can foresee a better second-hand, simply because you imagine Klopp dishes out a bollocking after this.

Wish he'd just play them in a 4231 myself. Salah cf, Ox ram, Bobby 10, Mane left.

[RedNoodle]

I swore big time at that.

Trent isn't on it at all tonight and Thiago needs to release it more quickly at times.

Can foresee a better second-hand, simply because you imagine Klopp dishes out a bollocking after this.

Similar things were said during the WBA and Newcastle games.

[3underpar]

Our problem isn’t conceding goals. We haven’t scored in any real amount since Palace.

[Steveo]

And Mane in an ocean of space with time shoots a looping ball like a pub player miles over.

We need a striker BADLY

[miller0863]

I’d be looking at Rhys Williams to come on in the second half so Henderson can drive us forward.

Another terrible attempt this time by Sadio.

Seriously our finishing is awful

[Crimson Dynasty]

Having a nitemare already. What the hell is the matter with him at the moment.

He needs an extended period on the bench.

He's simply not been right this season at all (actually going all the way back to right before the pandemic shutdown last year).


The problem is, there's no one to bring in in his place.
You can't play Milly on there for an extended period of games, and Neco......well.....he's had his moments too.

And therein lies the problem.
When you know you can't be replaced in the starting line-up.

He's just not right in the head at the moment and its gravely hurting the team.

[CCTV]

Wish he'd just play them in a 4231 myself. Salah cf, Ox ram, Bobby 10, Mane left.

I'd bring Williams on at half-time too

[LFC-DPG]

Wank from Mane.

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, don't look to play every ball forward straight away, keep it for a spell knock it about, work it to one side to draw players in, back to Thiago centre, instant switch to the opposite side, play your game, play your way into the game, nick an equaliser before HT if you can, but be in control, don't be all gung ho, you've 55 minutes to get 2 goals

[RedNoodle]

Our problem isn’t conceding goals. We haven’t scored in any real amount since Palace.

It is part of the problem. We've conceded the second most goals of any team in the top half of the table other than Man U.

[miller0863]

Trent gives it away twice more.

Ffs

[eggy81]

We need either fab or Hendon in mf. Far too lightweight with Thiago on his own anchoring

[teesred]

How many of our players are off it, Mane is as bad as hes ever been for us at the moment. Ox has barely touched the ball (not that he ever does much anyway).

[RedNoodle]

We need either fab or Hendon in mf. Far too lightweight with Thiago on his own anchoring

It's not helped by Wijnaldum going awol away from home once again.

[HLOGI]

Salah with a heavy touch again. Piss poor touch.

[miller0863]

Tyler

“Not seen too much of Gini Wijnaldum..”

No shit

[justme]

Thats linesman on the right is complete fking twatting cheat

[Insidious]

Would quite like to see Minamino or Shaqiri on at some point, different dynamic.

Klopp makes subs late mind you. All managers have "ticks" that frustrate us and right back to the Dortmund days that has always been my bug-bear.

Rafa was the antithesis - a 62nd-67th minute substitute was something you could bet your House on!

[HLOGI]

Good ball in Bobby heads wide.

[RedNoodle]

Salah with a heavy touch again. Piss poor touch.

Yep. He relies on his pace as much as anything else. His first touch is often abysmal.

[miller0863]

Good ball into the box Bobby’s header is ..well it’s laughable

[Crimson Dynasty]

Wait,...

So the did a VAR check and the VAR people in the booth couldn't see that the call for the goalkick for them was wrong instead of a corner to us?

Or do they not make those kinds of calls?

[HLOGI]

And Mane in an ocean of space with time shoots a looping ball like a pub player miles over.

We need a striker BADLY

Poor strike.

[Steveo]

Should be 2 nil. Ings bullying Hendo

[Kev0909]

Ain't surprised about this 2 unfit midfielders and mr.awol away from home

Henderson mr. Diagonal balls apparently only Diagonal balls is his own sack

[miller0863]

Getting really annoyed now. This is a shocking performance

[Kev0909]

Bobby dazzler rofl

[HLOGI]

Yep. He relies on his pace as much as anything else. His first touch is often abysmal.

So how are you world class with a abysmal touch 🤔

[CCTV]

Hendo again leaving a big hole in the back 4

[teesred]

Wait,...

So the did a VAR check and the VAR people in the booth couldn't see that the call for the goalkick for them was wrong instead of a corner to us?

Or do they not make those kinds of calls?

Exactly what I thought. Its beyond a joke now this. We know for a fact we are getting fuck all with Mariner on the pitch too.
If we had scored the goal they did it would have been reviewed and given offside for the trailing arm

[RedNoodle]

Tyler

“Not seen too much of Gini Wijnaldum..”

No shit

But, but, but ....... apparently people have got an agenda against him.

Saints should make it 2-0.

[HLOGI]

Bobby dazzler rofl

Lol. As someone said maybe he shouldn't wear the number 9 and we would see what he brings. Lol.

Ings shows what a 9 should do.

[Kev0909]

Henderson Firmino are so world class I can't believe my eyes

[Steveo]

I did suggest that after looking so poor v a shite West Brom and a very pedestrian Newcastle - we might look worse still against a good Southampton.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Getting really annoyed now. This is a shocking performance

It's the kit.

They think they're playing against City and keep trying to pass to the players in the red kit.


That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

[eggy81]

Bobby still missss.

[3underpar]

It is part of the problem. We've conceded the second most goals of any team in the top half of the table other than Man U.

With the players we have if we aren’t scoring two goals a match then it’s more than just a part of the problem. Take away the two ridiculous matches where we let in 7 and then scored 7 our defense isn’t that bad but our scoring is a major problem.

[trueandred]

My goodness we are awful.

[CCTV]

Wait,...

So the did a VAR check and the VAR people in the booth couldn't see that the call for the goalkick for them was wrong instead of a corner to us?

Or do they not make those kinds of calls?

Was a penalty review, they don't use it to check for corners.

[miller0863]

Foster falls over his own player and gets a free kick. Ridiculous decision but Ox misses anyway. There’s a shock. Another half drifts by without a single Liverpool effort on target

[RedNoodle]

So how are you world class with a abysmal touch ��

I don't play for one of the biggest clubs in the world, nor am I paid £200k+ p/w.

[Kev0909]

Fabinho proving how much of a all round player he is has made slotting in cb easy see Hendo enough said

[HLOGI]

I don't play for one of the biggest clubs in the world, nor am I paid £200k+ p/w.

Lol.

[CCTV]

Bobby puts it wide and the officials give soton a free-kick for one of theirs fouling their own

[Kev0909]

Will Bobby fuck off seriously why ain't more people had enough yet

[miller0863]

Second best all over the pitch again against a very average side

[Steveo]

Maybe putting Hendo in there is a cry for help to FSG?

Beyond that - I hope to god Klopp hasn’t had his blitzkrieg 2 seasons and now we are seeing the drain - crash and burn.

[RedNoodle]

Foster falls over his own player and gets a free kick. Ridiculous decision but Ox misses anyway. There’s a shock. Another half drifts by without a single Liverpool effort on target

Now now Miller. You know that actually telling it like it is isn't allowed on this (or any other) football forum. :rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynasty]

Ings out there showing how a Number 9 actually plays.

[HLOGI]

Milner will be the first sub at 50 or so for Thiago. Then late 80's Origi and someone.

[CCTV]

Good interception from Hendo who was in the right position

[eggy81]

We are terrible right now. Can’t overstate how poor we are. Ffs. Same patterns over and over again. Brutal stuff to watch even.

[HLOGI]

Mane has been shite.

[Kev0909]

Should of watched boris's speech instead it's unfortunate he's not stopping the league

[Artisan]

Something's a miss here, too many Liverpool players constantly shaking their heads...

[Steveo]

Salary so close with the header. Miles better there

[miller0863]

Sums it up. Sadio on the edge of their box, one man to beat so he turns back into four defenders instead

[RedNoodle]

Maybe putting Hendo in there is a cry for help to FSG?

Beyond that - I hope to god Klopp hasn’t had his blitzkrieg 2 seasons and now we are seeing the drain - crash and burn.

Klopp could cry a river and he'd still be unlikely to get more than a £5 luncheon voucher and a pack of 'Space Raiders' from FSG.

[CCTV]

Hendo with a lucky interception with little time to react, Ings in behind him

[HLOGI]

Good ball from Trent. Decent cross from Mane. Good effort from Salah. That was better.

[miller0863]

Jesus wept I would love to see Trent’s pass completion for this half.

[CCTV]

Trent switches it to Robbo, who plays in Mane and he puts a short cross in for Mo who heads over.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Salary so close with the header. Miles better there


Freudian slip?
Or well intended?

[Kev0909]

Southampton are missing players themselves actual joke at least they have a actual striker though the difference

Firmino is traah

[HLOGI]

Firmino with a jig that leads to nothing.

[miller0863]

62% possession 7 attempts 0 on target.

0 on target again, utter crap

[teesred]

We look devoid of belief.
Another shithouse midfield half for Ox. No change there at all, not even attempting to get involved. A total waste of fucking space.
Thiagoplaying lone wolf.

[southernboy]

When we thrashed Palace, everyone was saying we were sending an ominous warning to the rest of the league. Hasn’t quite worked out that way.

[HLOGI]

Southampton are missing players themselves actual joke at least they have a actual striker though the difference

Firmino is traah

He can score the winning goal in this game and run the entire field. He will still be shit. He contributes nothing but little passes.

[CCTV]

Jesus wept I would love to see Trent’s pass completion for this half.

The best of our right side as I type :)

Trent 58%
Ox 50%
Salah 40%

[RedNoodle]

Utter trash.

[Kev0909]

Get Henderson to cm Williams on ffs , get ox off for jones or whoever not rocket science it's not working ffs

[Artisan]

Painful...

[eggy81]

That’s been utter shite. The front 3 would want to have a serious word because they are not at it.

[RedNoodle]

The best of our right side as I type :)

Trent 58%
Ox 50%
Salah 40%

Could you do any better? #MajorSarcasm

[Steveo]

Freudian slip?
Or well intended?

Accidental... but perhaps the ghost of Freud is on the loose :D

[Insidious]

At the end there - why did Southampton get a decision? Saw no foul - did the ball gonout from the corner?

Poor half that. Needs energy. I'd love Minamino on. May not be the perfect player, but running is guaranteed and we might actually intercept a ball and transition.

One of our worst five halves under Klopp?

[Kev0909]

Put Phillips on for Firmino

[justincredible]

Liverpool attacking like a bottom half team every time they get in the Southampton final third.

[Crimson Dynasty]

We look devoid of belief.
Another shithouse midfield half for Ox. No change there at all, not even attempting to get involved. A total waste of fucking space.
Thiagoplaying lone wolf.

Why'd he get the start over Minamino?

Minamino has a great game in our 7-0 win over Palace and then gets buried deep into the bench to not even come on as a sub for the next 4 games.
That's not good for a player's confidence, and I don't know why Klopp keeps doing it.

[Artisan]

Get Henderson to cm Williams on ffs , get ox off for jones or whoever not rocket science it's not working ffs

Klopp will, with 10mins to go.

[LEGS]

A few dubious decisions towards the end of that half good job Firmino missed when Forster dropped it as that was a howler by the ref.

Oxlaide has been poor I’d get Williams on at CB and move Hendo to midfield.

[HLOGI]

When we thrashed Palace, everyone was saying we were sending an ominous warning to the rest of the league. Hasn’t quite worked out that way.

Lol. Was a false dawn that. We could have been behind in that game had Ayew not fluffed his lines repeatedly. It was just a papering over that game.

[Nineteenx]

Better last 5-10 minutes of this half, calmed it down a bit, getting the switches going, opening up space getting some moves going, much much better, I didn't like the gung ho reaction to Trent's error, that's what we did v Villa, just take the goal on the chin, settle play your game and work yourselves back into the game, work your openings and bury them

Over to Jurgen to work his HT magic as ever to make sure we're a lot better second half and do play our game, use our switches, go direct to mix it up at time to time when it's on and back those balls up to win second balls and create from there too

[Balinkay]

Baagh, mount any sort of decent attack and we're in. Let's do a bit more of that in the second half as they tire, eh? Also maybe Oxo don't be quite so shite?

[Steveo]

That’s been utter shite. The front 3 would want to have a serious word because they are not at it.

Can’t argue with that. Trent must also ask himself a few questions. Shockingly blasé

Ox.. was he out there?

[teesred]

When we thrashed Palace, everyone was saying we were sending an ominous warning to the rest of the league. Hasn’t quite worked out that way.

Lol, I was one who said that. Couldn't have been any "wronger".

[HLOGI]

A few dubious decisions towards the end of that half good job Firmino missed when Forster dropped it as that was a howler by the ref.

Oxlaide has been poor I’d get Williams on at CB and move Hendo to midfield.

Good shout. Ox my gosh what a horrendous performance.

[RedNoodle]

When we thrashed Palace, everyone was saying we were sending an ominous warning to the rest of the league. Hasn’t quite worked out that way.

Were we? I think anyone with sense could see that is was just one of those days when everything came off for us.

[CCTV]

Williams on and Hendo into midfield.

Thiago on a yellow or more likely anonymous Ox off

[Crimson Dynasty]

Could we please never ever play in this GODAWFUL ManCity-wannabe kit ever again?

If we're going to play like trash out there let it be in a kit that doesn't make my eyes bleed.

[justme]

We put 2 new midfielders no wonder we are all backwards and forwards no control of the ball in midfield at all. I dont get why Henderson is playing centre back at all. Ox as been missing. for most of the game thats because we have no forward.he can run off him. all we doing is going down the sides and get blocked in the middle when balls come across

[Kev0909]

Yes Stevey lad yet we don't give neco a chance but think 2 cms at cb is clever

[CCTV]

Could you do any better? #MajorSarcasm

Might do better than Klopp, not the best runner ;)

[teesred]

Why'd he get the start over Minamino?

Minamino has a great game in our 7-0 win over Palace and then gets buried deep into the bench to not even come on as a sub for the next 4 games.
That's not good for a player's confidence, and I don't know why Klopp keeps doing it.

God knows mate. I don't rate him either like but atheist he did OK in that game.
I've thrown the towel in on Ox like I have Keita, neither are good enough full stop.

[Nineteenx]

A few dubious decisions towards the end of that half good job Firmino missed when Forster dropped it as that was a howler by the ref.

Oxlaide has been poor I’d get Williams on at CB and move Hendo to midfield.

Bringing Rhys on for Oxlade and moving Hendo into midfield is the very first change we should make in this if we're not at least level by 60 minutes, you feel we'd be controlling it better and supporting both full backs playing higher and our forwards better with a midfield 3 of Hendo, Gini and Thiago, be more settled, press better, plus Gini only seems to play well with Hendo alongside him and hendo actually doesn't play his best when he hasn't got Gini for company as we saw last time out

[faridtoxteth]

Half time. a lot to think about. Fuck.
First off. You've got to love danny Ings. Took his goal brilliantly.
Trent and Robbo's worst combined game for us ever. They will be better second half.
Thiago, such a long time out. Got to get up to speed with the prem.
Ox. Where is he?
I would agree with the above. take Ox off,Put Jordan in midfield and Williams at centre back. Jordan been reading the game well, but he gets done for pace a bit easy.

[miller0863]

It doesn’t help that Jurgen won’t stick to Rhys Williams as Fabinho’s partner. It changes every game ffs. We all had big reservations about Henderson starting there and we were right to. The team looks unbalanced, devoid of confidence and drive going forward.
Jurgen struggling at the moment never mind the players

[LEGS]

We aren’t winning the league let’s be honest and I’m mildly concerned about top 4 too.

[RedNoodle]

I'll just console myself during HT with a Wendy's 'Baconator'.

Oh yeah that's right, I don't live in America/I think all UK Wendy's closed.

Oh Well. A Decaffeinated coffee or cup of tea and a pack of 'Hula Hoops' it is then.

[justme]

I have yet to respond to the Thiago thread. because i want to see how he plays.. So far he looks like a mistake waiting to happen. I would much rather have Fabhino at holding midfield. You can always play Thiago further forward.. (Thats when defenders are available)

[RedNoodle]

We aren’t winning the league let’s be honest and I’m mildly concerned about top 4 too.

If either/both of those things happen, blame FSG.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Lol, I was one who said that. Couldn't have been any "wronger".

To be fair to you, most of the press were also wanking themselves (....as they do) over the ominous sign we were sending then too.

They tend to wank themselves over anyone who shows even the slightest bit of form.

[faridtoxteth]

Unusual strong consensus on the forum that says Williams at centre back, Henderson in for Ox. If so many of us can see what's obvious (to us) can Jurgen see it? Or are we all missing something? We'll see.

[LEGS]

If either/both of those things happen, blame FSG.

I won’t blame them for not winning the league I’ve said before a ball was kicked that City will win it and I see nothing to make me change my mind.

They have a strong squad, pretty much no injuries and BCD totally suits them.

[eggy81]

Are they purposely not showing that I ha goal from the side on view. Must have been tight.

[RedNoodle]

It doesn’t help that Jurgen won’t stick to Rhys Williams as Fabinho’s partner. It changes every game ffs. We all had big reservations about Henderson starting there and we were right to. The team looks unbalanced, devoid of confidence and drive going forward.
Jurgen struggling at the moment never mind the players

We've had TEN different partnerships at CB this season, and have only gone a massive THREE games with the same CB pairing.

[jozza800]

Where's the intensity gone? Southampton have been right on it. The press has been rubbish for most of the season. We've been trying to coast through games for most of the season.

Worst half of the season for me. And we've had some shockers this season.

Bobby getting a lot of stick, but Mane's been off it for a number of months now.

[trueandred]

What does Ox bring to the team?

[Steveo]

I have yet to respond to the Thiago thread. because i want to see how he plays.. So far he looks like a mistake waiting to happen. I would much rather have Fabhino at holding midfield. You can always play Thiago further forward.. (Thats when defenders are available)

Hardly fair. Dropped in after being out for an age - sharing the midfield with the Invisible man mark 2 and in front of a back 4 consisting of 2 Centre Mids and Trent Alexander Away on vacation.

And and and a front 3 who have no clue where the goal is.

[Kev0909]

Look It's not ox or thiagos fault

how long they both been out??

Shoved into a game like this IS THE BAD IDEA they're both nowhere near FIT TOGETHER FFS

ESPECIALLY WITH AWOL WIJ IN MIDFIELD THINKING ABOUT BEING ON A BEACH IN BARCELONA

Why the fuck is this such rocket science? Kloppty klopp?

Henderson CB???????

Mind is baffled sorry but this is aids

[jozza800]

Unusual strong consensus on the forum that says Williams at centre back, Henderson in for Ox. If so many of us can see what's obvious (to us) can Jurgen see it? Or are we all missing something? We'll see.

Don't think the lad has put a foot wrong (or Phillips) when he's played. I've always been a big advocate of you're in the team until your form drops or you get injured.

Hendo and Thiago are trying to do the same job from midfield. It's a total waste.

[ianlfc]

So many if not all are playing way below par, its shocking.
NULL AND VOID !! Its for the best.

[justme]

Hardly fair. Dropped in after being out for an age - sharing the midfield with the Invisible man mark 2 and in front of a back 4 consisting of 2 Centre Mids and Trent Alexander Away on vacation.

I just look at his little dibbly dobbly passes and the scare the shit out of me. You dont want your DM to play like that.. Balls like that are killers for your own players when the opposition press you quickly.

[Nineteenx]

Just want us to play like champions and show our mentality this half, we've got 45-50 minutes to score to, show some fucking mentality, patience and control, work the ball, work positions, keep the ball and work it to let Mane Mo Bobby and the full backs get their starting positions for their runs then go back to Thiago or Hendo to try and pick those runs out with switches

[Kev0909]

thank fk for that milner is warming up

here comes the goals

[Steveo]

I just look at his little dibbly dobbly passes and the scare the shit out of me. You dont want your DM to play like that.. Balls like that are killers for your own players when the opposition press you quickly.

Not if the receiving player has any ability, confidence or drive. We need to start playing like a team of Champions and not like a team wanting to get there.

[Kev0909]

So many if not all are playing way below par, its shocking.
NULL AND VOID !! Its for the best.

before the 14th pref

there's time there's hope

[justme]

what about the c**t of a lineman who was staring at Salah being manhandled to the floor and basically ignored it.

[Nineteenx]

Second half imminent, Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, let's be A LOT better this half, show our mentality and show control, work the ball, work the opposition, move them about, use our switches, open up the space, get our opportunities and bury it

[Kev0909]

Who'd of thought playing 2 players that are nowhere near fit and a player that goes missing away from home a good idea all together!

[eggy81]

We are kick and rush at the moment. No structure to our team and no press. We need to show some mettle now or we’ll be out of this race before end of January.

[miller0863]

No half time changes

[justincredible]

what about the c**t of a lineman who was staring at Salah being manhandled to the floor and basically ignored it.

Yep, very suspect that.

[Kev0909]

No half time changes

milners ready to be first sub and change the game @ 89th min

I'd expect he'll be on before that purely because of Ox and thiago not lasting 90 no chance

[Steveo]

Simple ball to the middle from Robbie was all that was needed and it was a goal on a plate - He needs to add more guile to his game

[miller0863]

Easy ball on for Robbo and he completely over hits it.
It’s not just one or two players it’s all of them

[eggy81]

Wtf was that mo ffs.

[RedNoodle]

What does Ox bring to the team?

A lot less than a fair few others think.

[miller0863]

Another awful Trent cross.

[Steveo]

Gini calling for a handball VAR call. But nothing

[Steveo]

We have to score in this period - we look like we could play for months and not score.

Come on FFS! Bury one of these

[3underpar]

Of course we don’t get the Var decision

[eggy81]

Bobby ffs.

[Crimson Dynasty]

What the hell Bobby?!?!!?!?!?

FFS!

[miller0863]

Bobby that was about as convincing as a Boris Johnson Press conference

[3underpar]

Tf is Robertson doing?

[Balinkay]

Absolute disgrace to not give a pen there.

[miller0863]

Thiago is one foul away from a red here

[Steveo]

Thiago is going to see red if he makes another poor challenge

[RedNoodle]

The way things are looking/going there is more chance of me 'scoring' with someone that isn't all of deaf, dumb, blind, stupid, 'ugly', poor, and missing a few body parts.

[Kev0909]

Sell Bobby and get a CB ffs Jota will be back soon we can risk him being fit like with matip, still have options there too

[Steveo]

Power cube imminent

[Kev0909]

On a serious midfield obviously needs to change fucking klopp ffs

[Nineteenx]

Better so far, but I'd have Rhys Williams on for Ox and Move Hendo into CM, looks like Shaq is coming on though, the midfield 3 are all over the place, need someone to organise them

[Steveo]

He’s as broad as he’s long is on.

[miller0863]

You forgot pissed Noods

[eggy81]

That’s just infuriating down the left side then between sadio and robbo

[Balinkay]

Not sure if it's wise to keep Thiago on.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Klopp making a change before the 80th minute?!?!?!

Shocker, that.


I expected him to bring on Gini to help shore up that midfield.
Shouldn't be long now.

[Nineteenx]

Shaq on for Ox, not convinced by that at all, I think the midfield issue is a lack of organisation and direction, we'll see how it pans out Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves level here now

[Steveo]

Again we should make a goal but allow the Saints to defend it

[Kev0909]

Not sure if it's wise to keep Thiago on.

He's doing nothing that makes sense so why not

[3underpar]

Argggg almost

[miller0863]

10 shots still no save necessary from Forster

[RedNoodle]

You forgot pissed Noods

Lol. Yes you're quite right Miller. You obvious know/have seen me.

If me and the Elephant man went double dating, he'd be 'the looker'.

[RedNoodle]

Not sure if it's wise to keep Thiago on.

We're not exactly overloaded with decent options.

[Nineteenx]

How's that not a pen? His left foot clips Mane's left heael

[miller0863]

Another penalty given week in week out not given for us.

[Insidious]

Another penalty given week in week out not given for us.

Absolutely.

[Crimson Dynasty]

How the fuck is that not a Penalty?

[Kev0909]

At least that can be a excuse again

[Nineteenx]

Marriner's a proper cunt

[Balinkay]

That would have been a pen in most other games. Unless it's against United.

[3underpar]

Now longest drought of minutes with no goals under Klopp

[LEGS]

Are we not getting a decision tonight ?

[RedNoodle]

If only he'd hadn't played Jota in a meaningless game.

[TheDOC1979]

The longest we've gone under Klopp without a goal.

If only he'd hadn't played Jota in a meaningless game.

Don’t think it’s Jota mate. Think all of them are entitled little bitches