Tottenham v Liverpool (Match Thread)

[RedNoodle]

Tottenham

Lloris, Rodon, Dier, Davies, Aurier, Ndombele, Hojbjerg, Doherty, Bergwijn, Kane, Son.

Subs: Alderweireld, Sanchez, Winks, Bale, Lamela, Hart, Sissoko, Lucas Moura, Vinicius.

Liverpool

Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Henderson, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Thiago, Milner, Salah, Firmino, Mane.

Subs: Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jones, Minamino, Tsimikas, Shaqiri, Origi, Rhys Williams, Phillips, Kelleher.

Referee

Martin Atkinson.

[Nineteenx]

Alisson

Trent Matip Henderson Robertson

Thiago Wijnaldum Milner

Mane Firmino Salah

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come on Bobby winners in our last 2 v these, come the fucking fuck on Liverpool, let's have the win and some goals here tonight

[Nineteenx]

Interested to see the full backs tonight and if there's more of the variation of them crossing, trying to play balls through the channel and our forwards trying to open up the channels for them to try and be released through them that we saw in the cup game and if we've improved on it

[Nineteenx]

Kick off imminent, Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, score early, score lots, be devastatingly clinical in finishing our opportunities and with your opportunities to create them, get the win here tonight and another vital 3 points to start a long long run on back to back wins

[miller0863]

Well in Noods

[Jenson78]

Hope our front three turn up tonight, because their defence is weaken. Not happy with the ref.

[Nineteenx]

Mane should score

[CCTV]

Would like to see us deploy the players in a 343

Alisson
Hendo Matip Gini
Trent Milner Thiago Robbo
Salah Firmino Mane

Invoking the spirit of the last time we played Gini at CB in a 343

[Kev0909]

my streams only 10 mins behind

not kicked off yet lmao

[miller0863]

Wtf is going on with our finishing thats a sitter

[RedNoodle]

FFS Sadio!!! :mad:

[Kev0909]

we're a goal down apparently?

Still waiting for kick off

great stuff

[LFC vs PFC]

Fuck sake

[Jenson78]

FFS Mane

[Nineteenx]

Son scores but looks offside

[miller0863]

See there you go. Identical chance at either end, Mané with a terrible finish Son slots it as expected

[RedNoodle]

And then Son almost makes us pay.

Spend some money FSG you ****s!!!!!!! :mad:

[Nineteenx]

VAR make the right decision :eek:

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool

[miller0863]

It’s offside but seriously we just have to take our chances

[miller0863]

Son free every time

[Kev0909]

wow ok it's offside but how easy was that

[RedNoodle]

wow ok it's offside but how easy was that

In the words of Darth Vader "All too easy".

[southernboy]

wow ok it's offside but how easy was that

Hot knife through butter. We’ll do very well to get anything out of this.

[RedNoodle]

McManaman saying that things don't look serious with Fabinho and that he should be back soon. Has he not been paying attention to what has been happening to us this season?

[RedNoodle]

Hot knife through butter. We’ll do very well to get anything out of this.

More akin to a laser scalpel cutting through thin air.

[LFC-DPG]

Bobby has to do better there rather than throwing himself down.

[miller0863]

To be fair we got through them just as easily

[miller0863]

Poor from Thiago, too easy

[Nineteenx]

Much MUCH better movement and variation and ideas of how to play through Joses's bus than we've displayed against other ptb sides of late

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here now

[RedNoodle]

To be fair we got through them just as easily

The difference is that once we get in front of goal our players have been turning into Bolivian Sunday league players, whilst the likes of Son and Kane don't.

[miller0863]

Suicide ball from Hendo, got away with one there

[miller0863]

Thiago again

[RedNoodle]

Thiago needs to both wake up and speed up.

[Kev0909]

Thank god matips back

[miller0863]

So open to the counter again

[RedNoodle]

Thank god matips back

For how long though?

[RedNoodle]

So open to the counter again

As we will continue to be until we have/deploy an out and out DM.

[CCTV]

Is Matip limping a bit ?

[miller0863]

Good save but ffs finish it

[Kev0909]

Thiago to get sent off

[miller0863]

Thiago is really struggling

[CCTV]

Nice one 2 from Maine to Mo and Mane stretching cant get it past hugo

[Kev0909]

Thiago is really struggling

at least you know he's playing unlike someone

[RedNoodle]

FFS Mane!!!

The commentators saying it was a "great save" but Mane should have buried that. It would have been offside anyway, but still.

And then Thiago gets booked. FFS!!! He's starting to make me raise an eyebrow or two.

[Kev0909]

Thiago is very rash today said this about him a few times

[RedNoodle]

at least you know he's playing unlike someone

It's away from Anfield, so it's a given. However I'm sure his 'fanboys' will tell us that we just don't like/have it in for him. :rolleyes:

[Kev0909]

I see why spurs only need 2 in midfield against are 3

[RedNoodle]

I see why spurs only need 2 in midfield against are 3

They offer next to f-all apart from a 'bit of energy'.

[LFC vs PFC]

It's away from Anfield, so it's a given. However I'm sure his 'fanboys' will tell us that we just don't like/have it in for him. :rolleyes:

...and they'd have a point. You say it every away match irrespective of how Wij is playing.

[RedNoodle]

...and they'd have a point. You say it every away match irrespective of how Wij is playing.

Because he goes missing in may away matches. Should we say nothing so people like you don't get upset by the facts?

Also I don't mention him in most/the majority of games, so that's a lie for a start.

[miller0863]

Seems like Thiago is the problem in midfield not Wij, he’s constantly out of position

[RedNoodle]

Seems like Thiago is the problem in midfield not Wij, he’s constantly out of position

The whole midfield is a problem, as I outlined in the "team v Tottenham' thread.

[LFC-DPG]

Seems like Thiago is the problem in midfield not Wij, he’s constantly out of position

He seems to slow things down too.

[Kev0909]

well I'm not sure why milner is in there either

0-0 wouldn't be the worst result I suppose?

[RedNoodle]

He seems to slow things down too.

He thinks he has more time on the ball than he actually has.

[Kev0909]

Looks like kane is fucked?

good for us i guess

[Nineteenx]

This is so much better, this is what I was talking about in my response to Steveo on the FA Cup match thread, midfield rotating, greater movement, full backs being more involved trying different things, we have created 3 good chances, we have had far greater variation of our play, now we need to get ourselves in front here

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here before the break now

[LFC vs PFC]

Because he goes missing in may away matches. Should we say nothing so people like you don't get upset by the facts?

Also I don't mention him in most/the majority of games, so that's a lie for a start.

They're not facts, it's your opinion. Should I not stand up for Wij to what I see as unwarranted criticism so that it doesn't upset people like you?

[RedNoodle]

well I'm not sure why milner is in there either

0-0 wouldn't be the worst result I suppose?

He's there because we've got very few half decent options aka having an injury plagued and weak as pee squad.

[Nineteenx]

Remember, shoot across Lloris into either corner, he's particularly weak diving to his left from shots across him

[miller0863]

Bobby playing really well

[RedNoodle]

They're not facts, it's your opinion. Should I not stand up for Wij to what I see as unwarranted criticism so that it doesn't upset people like you?

You can have whatever opinion you like. I however don't feel the need to 'chime in' every time someone says a contrary opinion to those I hold about something/someone i.e. if you frequently mention that Wijnaldum is boss, I'm not going to keep responding, arguing that you are blind, have an agenda etc.

[Kev0909]

might win here half of spurs team seems to be walking injured

[Kev0909]

Goal before they sort it out at HT please

[miller0863]

Come on Sadio lad

[RedNoodle]

might win here half of spurs team seems to be walking injured

Maybe they are feeling sorry for us and are trying to even things up a bit.

[Nineteenx]

Corner here, come on Bobby

[CCTV]

Come on Mane, bury the ball in the back of the net

[RedNoodle]

Yet another shot that is far too central.

Can we not get Rush or Fowler to show them how to find the corners of the net?

[miller0863]

And another stupid Thiago foul

[HLOGI]

We have played well. Mane has been atrocious.

[Kev0909]

And another stupid Thiago foul

Guessing he'll be sub'd at HT for shaq

[RedNoodle]

Thiago is giving away fouls and the ball far too often.

[CCTV]

Get in :D

[miller0863]

Bobbyyyyyyyyyy

[Kev0909]

Get in what spurs deserve fkin awful

[RedNoodle]

Get in Bobby!!! He could hardly miss that one.

[southernboy]

I thought he was going to miss :D

[CCTV]

Eric Dier :D

[Kev0909]

At least he managed to finish that :congratulatory:

[teesred]

Well deserved. Weve been the better side.

[justme]

about time..

[RedNoodle]

At least he managed to finish that :congratulatory:

I think even I could have finished that.

[HLOGI]

Sasol Mane needed that moment. Bobby Firmino needed that. Liverpool needed that.

Thiago has been awesome. Joel Matip if he could have been fit more often could be spoke of as world class. He is tremendous. Trent May be having one of his better games.

We are like a quality batsman that is out of knick trying to play back into form. Lots edges and close ones.

[miller0863]

Well my first half summary was going to be, apart from an up and down performance from Thiago, all that was lacking was a goal.
Really good from us, in total control as the half wore on. Such an important game and we have really turned up,2-0 wouldn’t have flattered us.

[HLOGI]

Bobbyyyyyyyyyy

He has had a good game. Looked Sharp on the turn.

[Nineteenx]

Boooooooooooooooooooom get the fucking FUCK in 1-0 Bobbbbbbbyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Captain fantastic with THAT ball for Mane again we have thoroughly THOROUGHLY deserved that, great half from our lads, loved it, could have finished our chances better

Over to Jurgen as ever to make sure we're a bit better second half, keep playing as we have been, be better with the final ball and our opportunity to create chances and absolutely clinical in finishing them

When we build on our right and there is good space for Trent to pick his man MAne HAS to take the cue and make a run to the far post for him. When SPurs try and press Hendo should play that long diagonal Virgil used to so frequently, right onto Mo's chest

Really good half

[Insidious]

Happy days.

Play a 45-minute match of Football in 15 minutes time, get a draw or win in that 45-minute match, go Home happy.

[miller0863]

Sorry mate but I couldn’t disagree more about Thiago

[miller0863]

Trent had a really good half too, much better from him.

[teesred]

I cant wait to see when we eventually get to play Fabinho,Henderson and Thiago in midfield.
Hes a bit hamstrung having Wijnaldum and Milner around him. 2 players who basically don't want to have the ball.
I'm glad Wijnaldum has been mentioned as ai was worried about my eyesight. Saw his name on the teamsheet but couldn't see him on the pitch.

[worldpanel]

We are like a quality batsman that is out of knick trying to play back into form. Lots edges and close ones.

Well played Sir

[LEGS]

Played well that half to be fair.

Spurs are always going to cause issues with Son and Kane.

[faridtoxteth]

Good game from Bobby. Linking up play like the old days.
Just like to mention three players suffering for form Mane, Salah and Thiago...they have all had covid. Maybe for some people the effects of it take ages to get out of your system. Like that long covid that many people have had. I think there was someone else in the squad who had it, but ca't remember who. Was it Trent?
Matip been brilliant so far.

[jamesugw]

Good game from Bobby. Linking up play like the old days.
Just like to mention three players suffering for form Mane, Salah and Thiago...they have all had covid. Maybe for some people the effects of it take ages to get out of your system. Like that long covid that many people have had. I think there was someone else in the squad who had it, but ca't remember who. Was it Trent?
Matip been brilliant so far.

It was Trent, I think. Good point.

[LEGS]

Yes Trent has had Covid, this is a good point and its why its not a real season to me.

Its pot luck on if you get it or not as well in most cases I mean they say football is Covid secure but nowhere is if honest not 100%.

So have Keita Shaq and Tsimikas from memory.

[CCTV]

Redmentv saying Philip's on for Milner

[Nineteenx]

Second half imminent

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, let's be just a little bit better this half, get yourselves an early goal this half and a couple of more thereafter, be clinical and ruthless with our chances and opportunities to create them

Nat Phillips on for Matip who was again superb but has unfortunately obviously had another tweak

[miller0863]

Lamela and Winks on for Kane and Aurier

Phillips on for Matip FFS

[LEGS]

Matip injured now we have to buy now

[RedNoodle]

Kane has gone off. Lamella replaces him.

[teesred]

Matip, go home mate........oh you already are.
Fucking weasel.

[LFC-DPG]

Matip injured now we have to buy now

Clear as day to everyone apart from F$G

[RedNoodle]

Matip injured now we have to buy now

I said earlier that he'd likely only be back for 5 mins. I was only 44 minutes out.

[CCTV]

Winks on for aurier
Lamela the diving shite on for kane

Philip's on for Matip - who looked like he was limping 1st half

[miller0863]

Yet again wasteful in front of goal, Salah that is utter shite man

[HLOGI]

Joel Matip, Adam Llalana, Oxlade Chamberlain and Naby Keita. Maybe the 4 umliclieat or brittle players in history of football and they all played for us.

[miller0863]

Treeeeeeeeentttttttttt


Said he was playing well

[CCTV]

Mane hits one low to the far post, hugo parried it out and Taa scores a peach

2-0

[3underpar]

Matip is the definition of glass

[RedNoodle]

Clear as day to everyone apart from F$G

It's clear to them. They just don't give a ****.

Trent scores!!! Woo!!!

I knew me predicting us to lose would sort us out! ;)

[Nineteenx]

Boooooooooooooooom get the fucking FUCK in 2-0 Trent, there's that shot across Lloris to the corner and him having to dive to his left, I telt thee

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, keep playing, keep doing what you've been doing, get yourselves another couple here

[HLOGI]

Super play from Mane and then Trent with his Carlos Alberto stinger. Boom.

[CCTV]

Matip is the definition of glass

Glass scurries to prosecute for defamation...

[3underpar]

TAAaaaaaaaaaaaa

Good for his confidence hopefully

[HLOGI]

Went to sleep so easy player not tracking Hojberg can't see who it is he just basically stopped.

[Nineteenx]

2-1 great hit from Hoveor, could have been averted by Trent getting to Bergwijn quicker

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a third here now

[miller0863]

Ffs
He’ll never hit one like that ever again
1-2

[TheDOC1979]

Awful defending on our part

[CCTV]

Hjolberg gets to the breaking ball and smashes one past alisson from outside the box.

Only milner looked to get to and block but even he was nowhere near him

FFS 1-2

[RedNoodle]

Oh dear!!! Are more dropped points on the horizon?

[HLOGI]

Awful defending on our part

Terrible.

[3underpar]

Wonder goal, he couldn’t do that again in ten tries

[TheDOC1979]

Buy a fucking CB you twats!

[LFC-DPG]

So much space. Midfield no where near.

[RedNoodle]

Hjolberg gets to the breaking ball and smashes one past alisson from outside the box.

Only milner looked to get to and block but even he was nowhere near him

FFS 1-2

That's what happens when you have an invisible and slow/immobile midfield.

And now Phillips gets booked.

I can see things going tits up yet again.

[teesred]

He is itching to give us a res card.

[3underpar]

Didn’t take long for a Philips yellow

[miller0863]

Salah just not sharp.

[LFC-DPG]

Mo seems so fucking slow at the moment

[TheDOC1979]

So what happens if it’s not offside? Do we not get that corner?

[RedNoodle]

He is itching to give us a res card.

Who's your money on?

[HLOGI]

Ndombele is quality. Not quite a Yaya but good.

[RedNoodle]

So what happens if it’s not offside? Do we not get that corner?

It's us, so the answer to that question is probably 'no'.

[miller0863]

Down to 10 while Thiago gets treatment

[RedNoodle]

Down to 10 while Thiago gets treatment

Tonight's Thiago + some wooziness does not bode well. The sensible thing would be to sub him.

[TheDOC1979]

Tonight's Thiago + some wooziness does not bode well. The sensible thing would be to sub him.

It might knock some sense into him

[3underpar]

Fuck yes Mo

[miller0863]

Salah wakes up
1-3

[TheDOC1979]

See! 3-1 salah

[TheDOC1979]

Chalked off?

[LEGS]

Gonna get done over here

[miller0863]

VAR cancels it out for hand ball on the half way line.
If it wasn’t for bad luck we wouldn’t get any

[HLOGI]

The rule says if the ball travels and if it is not the final pass then it should be a goal. Poor interpretation of the rule if it ruled out.

[Nineteenx]

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom get the fucking FUCK in 3-1 Salaaaaaaaaaaaaah

VAR looking at an accidental handball by Bobby and they've disallowed it

[3underpar]

Fuck u Atkinson

[RedNoodle]

Why am I not surprised that was disallowed.

[miller0863]

Fuckin VAR ...injuries.. Covid... fuck off

[LEGS]

As expected Fat Mess on VAR screws us

[Kev0909]

What a time for internet to go off ffs

what happened matip injured?

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a third here now

[RedNoodle]

What a time for internet to go off ffs

what happened matip injured?

Yep. I said he probably wouldn't last for more than five minutes.

[Nineteenx]

That Hoivier's a proper diving cunt, got Thiago booked with a dive first half too

[TheDOC1979]

Piss off Wijnaldum

[RedNoodle]

The less said about that shot the better.

[miller0863]

Wijnaldum is nothing if not consistent with his finishing

[miller0863]

Another dive rewarded by a joker of a referee

[Kev0909]

at least kanes gone off, never been impressed with him v us

[RedNoodle]

Another dive rewarded by a joker of a referee

It's Twatkinson. Did you expect anything else?

[TheDOC1979]

You can piss off with that shot too Bobby

[Kev0909]

Boooooom get fuckd

this spurs team is shite

[LFC vs PFC]

Rule that one out cunts

[Nineteenx]

Boooooooooooooooom geting the fucking FUCK in 3-1 Maneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a fourth here now, keep playing as you have been

[miller0863]

Cancel that you cheating fuckers

[TheDOC1979]

Milner with some experience going down after Robertson threw him under the bus. Mane 1-3 !!!

[3underpar]

Beauty from Trent to Mane

[RedNoodle]

Sadio gets a goal at last!!!

Chalk that one off you ****!!!

[Nineteenx]

Rule that one out cunts

Mega lol :D

[Kev0909]

what's that defending?

Do they want to loan williams from us?

lmao not complaining easyy

[CCTV]

Trent assists Mane 3-1

[HLOGI]

Sadio Mane with a rocket after a Trent beautiful cross.

Our attackers are back. Each has had a significant part in this game. And the finished have been decisive.

[HLOGI]

We have throttled them with the press from our midfield. But these things are not seen as it is done nunplauers who go missing in a way games. There is so much more to a football match then what you see immediately.

[CCTV]

Sadio Mane with a rocket after a Trent beautiful cross.

Our attackers are back. Each has had a significant part in this game. And the finished have been decisive.

Mane found Bobby, his parried shot fell to Trent and he finished Trents cross sweetly.

Been involved in the big moments in a pretty decent team performance... so far

[TheDOC1979]

If we win this, does that mean we’re not getting a CB?

[HLOGI]

James Milner age 35, game number 550 probably his best in our red. He has bosses a midfield with younger men against him.

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, KEEP PLAYING, nick yourselves a fourth goal here now

[TheDOC1979]

Allison needs to stop fannying about at the back

[RedNoodle]

If we win this, does that mean we’re not getting a CB?

We weren't/aren't getting one no matter what the final result is.

[HLOGI]

Mane found Bobby, his parried shot fell to Trent and he finished Trents cross sweetly.

Been involved in the big moments in a pretty decent team performance... so far

All 3 have played their type of games. Firmino silky. Mane brutal and relentless. Salah tearing with blistering pace.

[TheDOC1979]

Thiago what the fuck

[miller0863]

Thiago with the Wijanaldumesque shot

[3underpar]

Real did some terrific business to get Spurs to take Bale’s wages to just sit him. Lol

[Kev0909]

How clueless is mourinho??

against phillips and henderson so negative lmao

no way will they make top4 with this shithouse football and kane finally injured again, not that he did anything

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a fourth goal here now

Jones on for Thiago

[TheDOC1979]

Crap, big ego Jones is on...

[TheDOC1979]

Wijnaldum should leave now please

[CCTV]

Bale on for bergahinw

[CCTV]

James Milner age 35, game number 550 probably his best in our red. He has bosses a midfield with younger men against him.

A great man reminds me of the big black lad in batman the dark knight :D, the fella who takes the detonator and fucks it out the window of the boat/ferry. Willing to get his hands dirty when needed and sacrificing himself for the greater good. An intimidating force.

Does he still have the record for most assists in a cal campaign?

[miller0863]

Salah again so wasteful

[RedNoodle]

Mo, you can pass the ball you know.

[TheDOC1979]

Salah again so wasteful

It was a good thought. Had it come off, would’ve been a decent assist

[Nineteenx]

Origi on for MOTM Bobby

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a fourth here now

[TheDOC1979]

Ndombele has free roam in midfield. Looks a decent player to be fair

[CCTV]

Enter the Divock

Bobby makes way

[Artisan]

Just in from work, how we doing? Obviously we're winning....

[CCTV]

Origi on for MOTM Bobby

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a fourth here now

Mane
Trent
Bobby
Milner
For me

[Kev0909]

Just in from work, how we doing? Obviously we're winning....

Good spurs have been awful though, very bad klopp v mourinho klopp always wins it seems.

I won't say we're going to win the league yet lets see if we can win the next then i'll be convinced we're out of the rut

trent motm for me, amazing ball and scored

[HLOGI]

Didn't like that passage where Salah tried to backheel to Curtis whilst Bobby and Mane was open. We need to be ruthless. 3-1 can become 3-2 and 3-3 very quickly. We need tonleaen tonplaybthe percentages the same way we do at 0-0 and 3-1.

[TheDOC1979]

Sorry, but Milner is MOTM. He’s been everywhere

[HLOGI]

James Milner MOTM l. Mention for Trent in there as well. Matip of 45 minutes is considered.

[HLOGI]

Sorry, but Milner is MOTM. He’s been everywhere

My word he was immense.

[HLOGI]

Love how we punctured Jose. At 2-0 He was cajolling his team and when they scored he was pumped. But was abruptly sat down.

[TheDOC1979]

Wijnaldum has been awful...as usual

[HLOGI]

Love how Salah and Mane embraced and interacted for Salah disallowed goal. There was that joy again.

[LEGS]

Superb performance tonight absolutely bossed it

[teesred]

I gave a little barb to Milner at half time but I take it back. Hes been excellent second half. Best game Trent's had in a while too.
Weve played well.

[Kev0909]

Wijnaldum has been awful...as usual

Weird game, played a lot better than we have done and win is all important but I don't think we was that special

Awful from spurs... shocked at how bad they was tbh

[LEGS]

Wijnaldum has been awful...as usual

You kidding second half whole midfield were outstanding they hardly had a chance

[justme]

Good win for a change.. we seem to be more fluent this evening

[TheDOC1979]

Weird game, played a lot better than we have done and win is all important but I don't think we was that special

Awful from spurs... shocked at how bad they was tbh

Spurs aren’t anything special, but, they’re better than Burnley !!

[Crimson Dynasty]

If we win this, does that mean we’re not getting a CB?

Sadly, that's how FSG will read it.

[Kev0909]

Spurs aren’t anything special, but, they’re better than Burnley !!

not sure, burnley might of beat em on that performance

[stevie harkness]

First time we've scored enough goals since we were last in London v Palace

[RedNoodle]

Weird game, played a lot better than we have done and win is all important but I don't think we was that special

Awful from spurs... shocked at how bad they was tbh

Exactly my thoughts. Us being slightly better + Spurs being awful = 3 points for us.

We need to back this result up with a win against West Ham. Anything else won't be good enough.

[Nineteenx]

FT 3-1 Up the bum job done, all the focus as ever on the next game v West Ham, getting the win and another vital 3 points

On, and this was posted before the game on another thread, it's for you CCTV and Steveo and all the numpties who wanted Origi in for Bobby and Williams for Trent etc etc etc. This is exactly what we saw tonight, with Milner, who played a part in that fluid midfield 3 at its best a few times last season taking Hendo's place in there, but apparently, according to Steveo and CCTV working with that group from last season plus Thiago isn't the way to go :D fucking amateurs


The trick is to evolve and develop our game, which we bought players to try and do and haven't been able to start on yet this season

There is a lot more in the set up with our best players that we can do with our full backs and forwards and the movement and interaction between them

We find it harder to break down ptb teams when we are rigid, when we were doing it brilliantly last season was when we had the 3 interchanging positions in midfield, it asks different questions of teams, it makes it hard for teams to set up to play off certain players

Take these examples of positions our midfielders would be at different points of the game


Henderson

Thiago__________Wijnaldum

Here we all know Henderson's adapted his game and learned to play the switches to a high level of quality and attempted balls over the top, so we have the more direct distribution in the centre, at RCM advanced we have Thiago, who can play switchs and angled balls over the defence and in a position in which we sometimes include Shaq looking to play through balls and Thiago is equally as capable of those types of ball and we have the Gini link up with Robbo and Mane and being able to get in the No10 position from which he delivers so much for Holland


Gini

Hendo______Thiago

Here was have Hendo on the right, brilliant at high pressing from that position and knowing when to press and when to wait and won the ball back there to set up crucial winning goals last season a few times. We also have Hendo's right to left switch, crosses and bursts down the line to cross from near the byline. On the left we have the distribution and passing of Thiago, capable of creating from all sorts of positions, whether he pops up left or right he has the angles to thread players through, including the full backs we need to do more with. We have Gini's physicality and presence and ability to drive the ball forward

I'll stop there, there are so many permatations of what is possible with the fluid midfield 3, the trick is to develop within the set up that we have been so brilliant in, do more with the full backs and forwards interacting and have those numerous variations and skill sets to do something different than the player in the same position on the team sheet to always have numerous different ways of breaking teams down and varying our play and how we try to do it

That's the trick, that's the way forward, not change personnel and stay rigid or a new rigid system, it's the rigidity and lack of fluidity of movement and different players with different skill sets popping up in different areas to do something different from what the opposition have been expecting that makes us struggle.

As i've said many time, I don't believe in one way of playing, I don't believe in anyway of playing in which it is too rigid with players stuck in fixed positions constantly trying the same things and no fluidity of movement so another player will pop up in the same position and do something different that will bring a breakthrough

I do know a thing or two about this game you know ;)

[LFC vs PFC]

Shout out to Phillips a well. Very solid when needed to be.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Can we play Spurs every week, please?

They seem to be the team to play to cheer us up and get us out of our ruts.

If for no other reason than how much the tears and moaning will flow from the Special One post-match.
I wonder what the excuse will be this time.
'Best' team lost (again) because ....they didn't want to embarrass us in our slump.......or something.

[Balinkay]

Vamoooooos! Good result and a better performance.

One game at a time. Let's try to build on this.

[LEGS]

Exactly my thoughts. Us being slightly better + Spurs being awful = 3 points for us.

We need to back this result up with a win against West Ham. Anything else won't be good enough.

You talk as if we have been playing like Burnley.

We werent slightly better we destroyed them.

[HLOGI]

Good win for a change.. we seem to be more fluent this evening

Spurs played into our hands as well. Don't think Mourinho parked the bus. They tried but we made the pitch feel big. Trent as a outlet worked. The midfield shifted the ball across the park brilliantly and Hendo also helped with that quarter back play out of defense.

Overall it was good. Not perfect but food.

[teesred]

Sadly, that's how FSG will read it.

Yep for sure. The snide shithouses dont need any excuse.

[miller0863]

Once we settled down after 15 minutes we were in total control. Really good from everyone, well done Nat Phillips did everything absolutely spot on.

Man of the match is a difficult one, no one had a bad game, between Trent, Bobby and Millie.

Probably give it to Trent so good to see him and Bobby back to their best.

[CCTV]

Great win - roll on the bubbles blowers

[HLOGI]

Klopp looked like Klopp. Pre match cool, happy but confident. On the touchline lots of passion. Loved it.

[southernboy]

I wouldn’t go as far as saying we are back, but that will certainly give us a bit of confidence.

Next up, West Ham. Who would have predicted, that this would be fourth against fifth.

[LFC vs PFC]

FT 3-1 Up the bum job done, all the focus as ever on the next game v West Ham, getting the win and another vital 3 points

On, and this was posted before the game on another thread, it's for you CCTV and Steveo and all the numpties who wanted Origi in for Bobby and Williams for Trent etc etc etc. This is exactly what we saw tonight, with Milner, who played a part in that fluid midfield 3 at its best a few times last season taking Hendo's place in there, but apparently, according to Steveo and CCTV working with that group from last season plus Thiago isn't the way to go :D fucking amateurs



I do know a thing or two about this game you know ;)

Nineteen in 'I was right, you were wrong shocker.

[teesred]

Spurs aren’t anything special, but, they’re better than Burnley !!

Better than all the teams we've dropped points against recently aside from Utd.
Amazing how we can flick the switch to play like that, not back to our best but way better than the last month.
Hopefully we are coming out of our lull.

[stevie harkness]

Shop window for Nat Phillips, maybe someone will come in with a bid now to liven up this window a bit

[Steveo]

Didn’t watch - and what a great result...!

Over the moon to be honest.. Poor Jose... :D

[Artisan]

Good spurs have been awful though, very bad klopp v mourinho klopp always wins it seems.

I won't say we're going to win the league yet lets see if we can win the next then i'll be convinced we're out of the rut

trent motm for me, amazing ball and scored

Great to hear...Hendo in for Fab as CB. Trent playing better...thank god...yup, early days, but class is permanent ;) Roll on highlights.

[teesred]

FT 3-1 Up the bum job done, all the focus as ever on the next game v West Ham, getting the win and another vital 3 points

On, and this was posted before the game on another thread, it's for you CCTV and Steveo and all the numpties who wanted Origi in for Bobby and Williams for Trent etc etc etc. This is exactly what we saw tonight, with Milner, who played a part in that fluid midfield 3 at its best a few times last season taking Hendo's place in there, but apparently, according to Steveo and CCTV working with that group from last season plus Thiago isn't the way to go :D fucking amateurs



I do know a thing or two about this game you know ;)

Seriously mate, quoting your own posts again. 'Ave a word.

[miller0863]

You missed an excellent all round performance Steveo

[RedNoodle]

You talk as if we have been playing like Burnley.

We werent slightly better we destroyed them.

We destroyed them as much as a result of them being poor, as we did as a result of an improved performance from us.

It wasn't a 'masterclass' from us. They scored one, and were only fractions away from a second, never mind that they also lost Kane i.e. 50% of their attack.

[CCTV]

Once we settled down after 15 minutes we were in total control. Really good from everyone, well done Nat Phillips did everything absolutely spot on.

Man of the match is a difficult one, no one had a bad game, between Trent, Bobby and Millie.

Probably give it to Trent so good to see him and Bobby back to their best.

Mane for me

7 shots, 4 on target, 1 blocked, 2 off target, 1 tackle, 4 interceptions, 1 keg pass.
Assisted the first, created the second via a parried shot and a sweet finish for our 3rd

He could have been better tonight.

[jozza800]

We moved the ball so much quicker tonight. Bobby was excellent tonight, held the ball up and kept the ball moving. We've got to roll it on to the weekend now.

[HLOGI]

Mane could have disappeared after his miss and first 20 minutes but he kept on coming for me was impressed by that. Showed character on his side but thay kind of summed up the whole group. They never dropped their heads over this slump. This is a character building win. At needed it.

Shootout to Trent as well. He really needed that. He hardly gave the ball away. Scored. Created. Ran past people. Wanted the ball. Even went into midfield at times. He is not a good defender but he is good in attack so it is good thay his strengths over shadowed his weaknesses which is defending.

[faridtoxteth]

Shop window for Nat Phillips, maybe someone will come in with a bid now to liven up this window a bit

Nat Philips has got old school centre half qualities. i could see Burnley coming in for him for example if they finally succumbed to the offers for Tarkowski.

[jozza800]

We destroyed them as much as a result of them being poor, as we did as a result of an improved performance from us.

It wasn't a 'masterclass' from us. They scored one, and were only fractions away from a second, never mind that they also lost Kane i.e. 50% of their attack.

To be fair we're missing about 80% of our defence ��

[teesred]

We moved the ball so much quicker tonight. Bobby was excellent tonight, held the ball up and kept the ball moving. We've got to roll it on to the weekend now.

Definitely. Especially from Trent, makes all the difference. We created more chances tonight than we have in weeks and its due to that.

[HLOGI]

Mane for me

7 shots, 4 on target, 1 blocked, 2 off target, 1 tackle, 4 interceptions, 1 keg pass.
Assisted the first, created the second via a parried shot and a sweet finish for our 3rd

He could have been better tonight.

Loved the out to in runs he kept on making. Our front 3 was so clever together as a pack. Theu were in symphony and harmony.

[faridtoxteth]

How bad is Matip's injury?
If FSG don't finance a centre half now, you have to think there is something really wrong. Surely Klopp must be going mental at them.

[HLOGI]

Hugo Loris is shite.

[jozza800]

Nat Philips has got old school centre half qualities. i could see Burnley coming in for him for example if they finally succumbed to the offers for Tarkowski.

I'll be honest, I like him. I think he's a better defender than Williams. The thing that will stop him being a Liverpool player is his pace. Don't think he's done anything wrong since he's been in the side. Has he been at fault for any goals this season?

[CCTV]

Mane could have disappeared after his miss and first 20 minutes but he kept on coming for me was impressed by that. Showed character on his side but thay kind of summed up the whole group. They never dropped their heads over this slump. This is a character building win. At needed it.

Shootout to Trent as well. He really needed that. He hardly gave the ball away. Scored. Created. Ran past people. Wanted the ball. Even went into midfield at times. He is not a good defender but he is good in attack so it is good thay his strengths over shadowed his weaknesses which is defending.

Mane is Batman :D

[miller0863]

So many excellent performances tonight, Bobby was sublime.

[TheDOC1979]

I'll be honest, I like him. I think he's a better defender than Williams. The thing that will stop him being a Liverpool player is his pace. Don't think he's done anything wrong since he's been in the side. Has he been at fault for any goals this season?

Quite assured in defence when called upon. I'd keep him and get rid of Matip

[CCTV]

How bad is Matip's injury?
If FSG don't finance a centre half now, you have to think there is something really wrong. Surely Klopp must be going mental at them.

He was limping at a point in the first half, having cheled the thread around 8;23, ran it off so hopefully just a precaution and not another stint out injured

[teesred]

How bad is Matip's injury?
If FSG don't finance a centre half now, you have to think there is something really wrong. Surely Klopp must be going mental at them.

It really doesn't matter because we all know he will be out more times than hes in.
Hes a waste of time and I genuinely think he shits out of playing through it.
You have to question these players who are out for so long with various different injuries.

[Nineteenx]

Seriously mate, quoting your own posts again. 'Ave a word.

In this instance it's solely because it's been a long ongoing thing with CCTV insisting we should change formation and Steveo insisting we need to start dropping this player or that player and that working with our best 14 or 15 last season plus Thiago and developing, evolving and building on the very best we did then was not the way forward and bringing in different players who could actually force us to be more rigid while arguing at the same time we need to be less rigid and totally lacking any kind of vision or appreciation of just how fluid was can be when we have the right midfielders playing and are using the full backs properly :D

[LEGS]

We destroyed them as much as a result of them being poor, as we did as a result of an improved performance from us.

It wasn't a 'masterclass' from us. They scored one, and were only fractions away from a second, never mind that they also lost Kane i.e. 50% of their attack.

You cant have it both ways you have slated us rightly so but tonight we didnt let em play they shit themselves.

Never said masterclass but it was an impressive performance against a side with excellent players.

As for Kane he must have left with Matips pocket as that is where he was first half.