Liverpool v Manchester City (Match Thread)

[RedNoodle]

Liverpool

Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Fabinho, Henderson, Robertson, Thiago, Wijnaldum, Jones, Salah, Firmino, Mane.

Subs: Adrian, Kabak, Tsimikas, Phillips, N Williams, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Shaqiri, Origi.

Manchester City

Ederson, Joao Cancelo, Stones, Dias, Zinchenko, Silva, Rodri, Gundogan, Sterling, Mahrez, Foden.

Subs: Steffen, Laporte, Mendy, Garcia, Fernandinho, Doyle, Bernabe, Jesus, Torres.

Referee

Michael Oliver.

[miller0863]

Neither team anywhere near full strength, going to be interesting

[ianlfc]

Looking at the bench Kelleher must be injured now, as Adrian is there.

[Nineteenx]

Alisson

Trent Fabinho Henderson Robertson

Thiago Wijnaldum Jones

Salah Firmino Mane

Let's be fucking Liverpool today, let's bully them, harass and press the crap out of them until the pips squeeze, let's be at our devastatingly direct best, play our fucking switches for fucks sake, look for that switch from Trent to Robbo with the latter bombing on ahead of midfield, be direct, it's what we're fucking best at, long diagonals from Trent looking for Mane and balls over the top down the line looking for Mo and long balls over the top from Hendo, let's score some fucking goals today, goals goals goals goals please, get the win and another absolutely vital 3 points.

[Kev0909]

What was the point in signing davies again?

[justme]

Nice solid start and take it from there.. Lets hope Oliver doesnt try to even it up from what happened last season. and give them everything today

[RedNoodle]

What was the point in signing davies again?

So we can sell him on in a year or two for more than we paid for him?

[HLOGI]

What was the point in signing davies again?

In case Henderson, Fabinho. Gini, Milner, Robbo, Trent all get injured as Centre Backs that is when he will play.

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, be fucking Liverpool today, score goals, goals goals goals goals goals and get the win here today

[Nineteenx]

Nice solid start and take it from there.. Lets hope Oliver doesnt try to even it up from what happened last season. and give them everything today

Even what up? he got all the calls right last season, by the letter of the law, he does need to even things up for the absolute shit show of officiating he oversaw in our game v the bitters

[HLOGI]

Let's get the 3 points and get out of this. My worry is Klopp will then persist with Henderson and Fab in essence until we get slaughtered one day by a team who can shift centre backs around and see physical as well.

[Kev0909]

So we can sell him on in a year or two for more than we paid for him?

that's what I thought when we signed him tbh noods

[Kev0909]

In case Henderson, Fabinho. Gini, Milner, Robbo, Trent all get injured as Centre Backs that is when he will play.

Hahah, probably At least my chocolate same day delivery (amazon prime trial ftw) and pepsi max cherry is only a couple of stops away ready to comfort me for this game.

[Nineteenx]

Robbo's got his fucking game face on, oh yes, he'd better fucking score today

[Nineteenx]

Kick off imminent, Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, score goals, get the fucking win here today and another absolutely priceless 3 points

[justme]

Be interested to see TAA body language today. he sometimes seems like hes playing the park of late.. If he has a stinker. I would give Neco or Milner a place in the next game.

[miller0863]

Tyler :rolleyes:

[CCTV]

3 points for the love of Klopp !

[redman99]

3 points for the love of Klopp !

That's the one!

[RedNoodle]

Be interested to see TAA body language today. he sometimes seems like hes playing the park of late.. If he has a stinker. I would give Neco or Milner a place in the next game.

Given his form and how Man City play/score most of their goals, expect him to get consistently targeted throughout the match.

[Artisan]

Midfield still a concern...why not use a new defender and free one of them?

[miller0863]

Early stupid Thiago challenge, yellow in 2 minutes
He’s gonna get sent off sooner rather than later.

[Insidious]

Thiago :lol:

[RedNoodle]

Early stupid Thiago challenge, yellow in 2 minutes
He’s gonna get sent off sooner rather than later.

I was going to say the same even before the yellow card came out.

Slow + rash = Not a good combination

Our midfield will now be even more 'lightweight' and 'timid'.

[TheDOC1979]

Thiago has another yellow. Too many of them recently

[HLOGI]

Thiago :lol:

Stupid as in England you cant make a tackle anymore. Gundogan was killed and resurrected after Thiago recieved the yellow. That is never a yellow but Thiago needs to wise up and learn you cant tackle like that in this league.

[Kev0909]

Thiago save it for everton he's rash as fuck :biggrin:

[miller0863]

Madness
What are we doing in our own penalty area??

[Kev0909]

why did fab leave that?

#Notacb

[TheDOC1979]

Just kick the ball up. Messing about at the back is reckless

[Steveo]

Leading us a merry dance at the moment. Nice football from the shitty.

We aren’t getting a kick

[Kev0909]

City all over us

need henderson in CM

shock fucking horror

ffs

[Kev0909]

playing fab at CB is bad enough never mind henderson too

[TheDOC1979]

Trent already struggling against sterling

[miller0863]

Come on Trent settle down lad

[Steveo]

Dreadful pass from Curtis - Salah is in with the right ball.

[Steveo]

Great work from Gini

[LEGS]

Its drab stuff and lack of fans just makes big games terrible.

[Kev0909]

Its drab stuff and lack of fans just makes big games terrible.

zzzzzzzzz

don't watch it then

every time zzzzzzzzzzz

[miller0863]

Much better Trent

[Nineteenx]

Fucking stop slowing the fucking play down Jones lad, should have played that ball first time for Mo earlier too

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool

[Steveo]

Yep Jones in treacle - twice now he has just stopped the attack dead

[miller0863]

Come on Thiago we were in then

[RedNoodle]

Yet another example of our midfield lacking pace and incisiveness.

[Artisan]

Jones, jesus wept...

[Steveo]

Too many flicks - see Mané there. We look hopeful rather than expectant

[miller0863]

Midfield is a concern

[Kev0909]

that's one way to solve it with fab and henderson at CB

10 men behind the ball

[TheDOC1979]

City have better players than us

[LEGS]

zzzzzzzzz

don't watch it then

every time zzzzzzzzzzz

Bit like you with your moan about players being signed to be sold on as if nobody else does it.

It is shit and it doesnt feel a big game.

[Steveo]

Midfield is a concern

2 key members are at CB. Gini the only one pulling his weight right now

[TheDOC1979]

Thiago lad, what have you been smoking. Really poor.

Wijnaldum with some strength there

[Kev0909]

Bit like you with your moan about players being signed to be sold on as if nobody else does it.

It is shit and it doesnt feel a big game.

not really, davies is the only player that seems like we're doing that for, which I agree'd with noods.....

Every game match thread no fans shit to watch etc, noone is forcing you?? if it's that bad i'm sure countryfile is on catch-up or something.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Jones learning all the wrong lessons from his fellow midfielder Gini.

Gets the ball in the middle with space, and rather than keep it moving forward before the opposition have time to reset and get players back, he instead stops, and takes a look back over his shoulder to see who he can pass back to towards our own goal.


Frustrating as hell.

[TheDOC1979]

I’d have started Kabak and allowed Henderson in midfield. We’re being over run in the midfield and front three getting zilch

[miller0863]

We’re so deep we can’t get out properly when we do win it.

[teesred]

20 mins in and already frustrating. I've said about Jones before that he plays it safe far too much especially in the first half.

[LEGS]

not really, davies is the only player that seems like we're doing that for, which I agree'd with noods.....

Every game match thread no fans shit to watch etc, noone is forcing you?? if it's that bad i'm sure countryfile is on catch-up or something.

Minamino another.

Im sure you can stop watching until FSG are gone both of you moan everyday about them.

I will watch as always but im just saying its crap which is a fact

[Steveo]

And Mané should score

[miller0863]

Gaaaa that’s a real chance for Sadio

[Nineteenx]

Great play from Trent, Mane really should score

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool

[Artisan]

I’d have started Kabak and allowed Henderson in midfield. We’re being over run in the midfield and front three getting zilch

+1...Thiago off for Hendo asap.

[TheDOC1979]

Great play Trent. More of that. Mane with a poor header

[miller0863]

Excellent play from Trent setting up the chance

[Kev0909]

hahaha how can you compare talking about FSG to moaning about no fans every match / thread and saying how shit it is to watch??

FSG make no difference to me watching football, if I found it that shit to watch I wouldn't watch it.

[Artisan]

+1...Thiago off for Hendo asap.

Thinking about it, maybe this is exactly Klopps plan.

[LEGS]

Also im not just talking about us.

Spurs v Chelsea x 2
Arsenal v United
City v United
Utd v Chelsea
Us v United

One goal scored in them games that is not normal

[miller0863]

Thiago ain’t all that at the moment

[TheDOC1979]

Thiago ffs.

[HLOGI]

Thiago and Oliver are having stinkers.

[Kev0909]

think with this setup we're playing for 0-0 maybe with hope of a salah magic moment to win it?

[LEGS]

hahaha how can you compare talking about FSG to moaning about no fans every match / thread and saying how shit it is to watch??

FSG make no difference to me watching football, if I found it that shit to watch I wouldn't watch it.

Not just on about us watched a few others its the same.

You complain about performances fair enough but most games are drab this season, why do you think that is ?

That is my point

[Steveo]

Thiago ain’t all that at the moment

Sad but true. Hasn’t looked great since the Villa game v kids.

Expecting much more from him. But new league - very different to Germany. Hopefully he gets to play with Hendo and Fab/Gini.

[HLOGI]

Great play Trent. More of that. Mane with a poor header

Very poor header.

[Steveo]

Unlucky Bobby. Lovely try. Well worth a pop.

[miller0863]

Excellent from Hendo and Bobby, unlucky

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a goal here now

Nearly!

Come from Hendo stepping into midfield, trying the ball over the top for Mo and Bobby anticipating the second ball

[miller0863]

Excellent cover from Jones

[TheDOC1979]

Lovely shot Firmino.

[Kev0909]

That's why henderson needs to be in midfield

[CCTV]

Good shot Bobby

[HLOGI]

Gini, Trent and Jones having very good games so far.

[Kev0909]

Trent's playing well again.

[TheDOC1979]

Alison recently causing me some anxiety when on the ball. Can see a mistake coming from him

[Steveo]

Trent crossing looking very tasty today

[Nineteenx]

Better there again, Mane coming deep behind Firmino to initiate play, that's a tactic that cpuld work v park the bus teams too, trying to crowd Bobby out, Mane comes back gets it full back goes

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, nick yourselves a goal here now

[Kev0909]

Trent crossing looking very tasty today

Shame we ain't got Crouch

[TheDOC1979]

Trent crossing looking very tasty today

Less worry with a better CB pairing if you ask me

[Steveo]

Nice attempted through ball from Jones. Nearly - just needed more juice

[Crimson Dynasty]

Alison recently causing me some anxiety when on the ball. Can see a mistake coming from him

Can see a mistake coming from that defense anytime they start that passing back across the defense back-and-forth nonsense which just invites City to press them high and win the ball back.


And you can just see it coming every time they start doing that.
It's bad enough when you do it against the likes of Burnley or Brighton.
City will for certain punish you when you lose the ball in situations like that.

[Kev0909]

fuck off

[HLOGI]

Curtis Jones one criticism want too many touches of the ball.

[Steveo]

Sterling gets a pen. Clever run in the box and Gary Neville knows it won’t be overturned.

Funny that

[TheDOC1979]

Can see a mistake coming from that defense anytime they start that passing back across the defense back-and-forth nonsense which just invites City to press them high and win the ball back.


And you can just see it coming every time they start doing that.
It's bad enough when you do it against the likes of Burnley or Brighton.
City will for certain punish you when you lose the ball in situations like that.

Klopp tactic? Always playing from the back?

[miller0863]

Oh ffs just as we were getting on top. Silly foul from Fab

[HLOGI]

Quality diving from Sterling. Commentator terms it too clever.

[Kev0909]

Stop playing cm's at CB

for fuck sake

[Steveo]

Misses.

Gundogun miles over.

[miller0863]

Lollllz

[HLOGI]

Justice served.

[Kev0909]

Missed
hahaha

[TheDOC1979]

Really harsh for a penalty in the first place

[RedNoodle]

$t£rling winning yet another soft penalty. Am I surprised? Am I ****.

[Nineteenx]

Penalty, looked like a dive, but Fabinho doing what I was saying he needed to be reigned in for starting doing, trying to leave one on a player needlessly, absolutely fucking stupid

UAE FC miss the pen, but he wants a proper fucking bollocking for that at HT,

[LEGS]

$t£rling winning yet another soft penalty. Am I surprised? Am I ****.

Exactly never a pen Neville spoutinh shit

[CCTV]

Cheaters gonna cheat

[southernboy]

I thought it was a tad harsh to be honest. Not sure how much intent there was.

I had no confidence that Alisson would save it. Just as well it was way over the bar.

[TheDOC1979]

Penalty, looked like a dive, but Fabinho doing what I was saying he needed to be reigned in for starting doing, trying to leave one on a player needlessly, absolutely fucking stupid

UAE FC miss the pen, but he wants a proper fucking bollocking for that at HT,

What? Fabinho did absolutely nothing wrong there

[miller0863]

Think it was, Fab didn’t even complain

[Steveo]

Cheaters gonna cheat

Seen them given for less but it is a bit soft.

Wish we could do some slalom runs at them in their box

[RedNoodle]

Exactly never a pen Neville spoutinh shit

Beglin is doing the same.

[LEGS]

Beglin is doing the same.

Funny how we dont get these isnt it.

[TheDOC1979]

I’m confused with the handball rule.

[LEGS]

I’m confused with the handball rule.

Yep we had one given against Gomez for the same.

[Kev0909]

Is it me or does thiago get a quick yellow then you don't hear him make a tackle again??

it's good he's sensible in that regards but shouldn't be picking up yellows that early in the first place.

[Nineteenx]

Fucking shoot Robbo, fucking hell lad, fucking learn, from that position you are NOT, not ever going to find one of our players with a ball played across the deck, drill in a shot to the bottom far fucking corner, maybe you;ll score, if the keeper saves it, it is far more likely to get to one of our players than you trying to cross from there

[HLOGI]

Robertson not a good cut back with so many team mates in the box. One area of his game he has to improve never beats the first man on a cut back cross near or in the box.

[TheDOC1979]

Lovely touch by Jones

[Steveo]

Fucking shoot Robbo, fucking hell lad, fucking learn, from that position you are NOT, not ever going to find one of our players with a ball played across the deck, drill in a shot to the bottom far fucking corner, maybe you;ll score, if the keeper saves it, it is far more likely to get to one of our players than you trying to cross from there

Correct.. has absolutely no confidence in his shooting

[Nineteenx]

Come the fuck on here Trent, show you're back

[RedNoodle]

I’m confused with the handball rule.

Congratulations. You've just become qualified to referee PL matches.

[HLOGI]

Yep we had one given against Gomez for the same.

They became more lenient towards the defenders about 10 games into this season. Not everything is handball. We have since then seen almost no penalties for handball.

[TheDOC1979]

Congratulations. You've just become qualified to referee PL matches.

Haha

@Legs, was just going to say this would’ve been given against us

[Kev0909]

Didn't they change the rule a few weeks ago ? maybe that's why??

No way could he have avoided that give it a rest

[Crimson Dynasty]

I thought it was a tad harsh to be honest. Not sure how much intent there was.

I had no confidence that Alisson would save it. Just as well it was way over the bar.

He dived the right way, but generally speaking, Alisson is not a good penalty saving goalkeeper.


The general rule of thumb is usually that good open play goalkeepers tend to be poor at saving penalties while shaky open play keepers can often be good penalty saving goalkeepers.

I think it has to do with the amount of time one has to think while in open play versus going by instinct while trying to save a penalty.
Goalkeeper who fall into the former category (like Alli) have a tendency to overthink during penalties rather than just go by instinct and reflexes.

[HLOGI]

Didn't they change the rule a few weeks ago ? maybe that's why??

No way could he have avoided that give it a rest

They did around or after the Dier handball incident.

[TheDOC1979]

Didn't they change the rule a few weeks ago ? maybe that's why??

No way could he have avoided that give it a rest

Arms in an unnatural position ?

[HLOGI]

We have harried and pressed them well from 20 minute onward.

[RedNoodle]

Is it me or does thiago get a quick yellow then you don't hear him make a tackle again??

it's good he's sensible in that regards but shouldn't be picking up yellows that early in the first place.

Which is exactly what I alluded to when pointing out after his booking that our midfield would become more 'timid'.

[HLOGI]

Arms in an unnatural position ?

He is trying to pull it away.

[HLOGI]

Which is exactly what I alluded to when pointing out after his booking that our midfield would become more 'timid'.

They have not we have won the midfield contest. We have out pressed them.

[Insidious]

Definitely would have taken 0-0 at half-time so no complaints.

[Kev0909]

He is trying to pull it away.

yes and rather close no way was that handball

and yeah they did change it due to many penalties from shit like that ^ and rightly so.

he was looking away too

[TheDOC1979]

He is trying to pull it away.

So was Firmino when they disallowed Salah’s goal against Spurs. Either way, harsh if it were given. Just not sure if these morons follow the “rules”

[CCTV]

Fook my stream today :(

[justme]

yet another poor half from us.

[redman99]

The game seems too much for Jones, not on the same wavelength as the others. Don't like knocking our young players but he is so much better.

[RedNoodle]

They have not we have won the midfield contest. We have out pressed them.

We have, but I'm not sure as to whether it's because we've been closing down quickly, because Man City are holding onto the ball in that central area longer than what they usually do, or a combination of the two.

[HLOGI]

Definitely would have taken 0-0 at half-time so no complaints.

We have been the better team imo. They had their possession spell for about 12 to 15 minutes where we couldn't lay a glove on them. But then they has few misplaced passes and we began to press and suffocate them and then we had the game. Our players just need to release the ball quicker or when a midfield player drives at them not to stop but just to keep on going.

[Kev0909]

Think the ref's been spot on tbh

fabinho made slight contact with sterling lovely dive by him though but was always going to be a penno, once again not surprised players out of position v top attackers and it's asking for trouble

think we've been the better team going forward, not that either goalie has had to do much

if henderson was CM we'd have a very good chance of winning this.

[Nineteenx]

Decent half as we grew into it bar the stupid foul by Fab for the pen

need to play it a little quicker and be a bit more direct at times when the opportunity is there to and it has been a few times when we've passed on trying what we're best at

Mane and Robbo on the left support by Thiago a couple of times that half, there's something maybe there, but both times Mane stayed wide with Robbo, like to see Mane make and outside in run for Thiago to find him through the lines as soon as Robbo's layed it back to Thiago in that same position second half

[miller0863]

Penalty apart City created absolutely nothing in the first half, we had 2 or 3 decent opportunities.
54% possession 5 attempts 3 on target to City’s 2 attempts nothing on target.

We grew into that first half, decent performance.

Thiago worries me that A. he’s gonna get sent off and or B. he gives the ball away in poor positions trying to be too clever at times.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Definitely would have taken 0-0 at half-time so no complaints.

We grew into the game as it went along.
Which is encouraging given how dominant they were when the game started.

Their penalty miss might have helped to deflate them somewhat, but I'd expect them to come out guns blazing after the half so we should be prepared to match their intensity.

We just need for Mo and Bobby to wake up and make a nuisance of themselves in their box and give them something to worry about.

[RedNoodle]

Yet again it's our final ball/shot that is lacking.

[TheDOC1979]

Kabak needs to come in for Henderson and Thiago/wijlandum need to make way.

[RedNoodle]

Definitely would have taken 0-0 at half-time so no complaints.

We need all three points, they don't.

[HLOGI]

We have, but I'm not sure as to whether it's because we've been closing down quickly, because Man City are holding onto the ball in that central area longer than what they usually do, or a combination of the two.

But you said our midfield became timid 🤔. Doesnt balance out. Our midfield has been good. The better of the 2. We just need to be more decisive near their box. Robertson in particular has been disappointing in attacking areas. Mane also missed a very good chance. So it is our final 3rd that has not been too sharp. But the middle has been good.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Decent half as we grew into it bar the stupid foul by Fab for the pen

need to play it a little quicker and be a bit more direct at times when the opportunity is there to and it has been a few times when we've passed on trying what we're best at

Mane and Robbo on the left support by Thiago a couple of times that half, there's something maybe there, but both times Mane stayed wide with Robbo, like to see Mane make and outside in run for Thiago to find him through the lines as soon as Robbo's layed it back to Thiago in that same position second half

It wasn't a stupid foul by Fab.
A lot of the commentators correctly noted that it was more Sterling being too clever and going down too easily - and inversely, Oliver being too weak a referee as most other referees likely would have overlooked that.

Sterling was never going to get that ball back so he did the only thing he had a play left in which was to go down as soon as he saw that trailing leg of Fab.

[teesred]

Decentish. Just need a bit more conviction in the final 3rd but I guess both could say that. Thiago has been sloppy at times giving the ball away with lazy passes.
Dive or not that penalty is always getting given. He leaves his trailing leg there just enough.

[HLOGI]

Kabak needs to come in for Henderson and Thiago/wijlandum need to make way.

Henderson playing a masterstroke as a quarterback, City players are even scared of him. When he has the ball they are scattering to defense and now he is strolling out with it.

[LFC vs PFC]

We aren't playing instinctively and haven't for some time. Maybe it's the fact that we are trying to protect our back four, but we take an extra touch or ten to slow the game down. Not taking any risks.

[ianlfc]

Personally I think Curtis Jones has been brilliant since he tracked back to win the ball.
Since then every time he gets the ball he looks so confident.
The less said about Thiagos yellow 2 minutes in the better.

[HLOGI]

Yet again it's our final ball/shot that is lacking.

Agree

[HLOGI]

Personally I think Curtis Jones has been brilliant since he tracked back to win the ball.
Since then every time he gets the ball he looks so confident.
The less said about Thiagos yellow 2 minutes in the better.

Curtis has played well. He just needs to shift it quicker at times. But he is a confident young lad. Not scared to try things, similar to Trent.

[TheDOC1979]

It wasn't a stupid foul by Fab.
A lot of the commentators correctly noted that it was more Sterling being too clever and going down too easily - and inversely, Oliver being too weak a referee as most other referees likely would have overlooked that.

Sterling was never going to get that ball back so he did the only thing he had a play left in which was to go down as soon as he saw that trailing leg of Fab.

Yep, Fabinho trailing leg wasn’t intentional and a natural action. Never a Pen if you look at it correctly.

Saying it’s Fabinhos fault is stupid. Nothing he can do in that situation. Watch it in slow motion. Yeah, he didn’t protest as he would have hoped VAR would have a proper look

[teesred]

Kabak needs to come in for Henderson and Thiago/wijlandum need to make way.

I'd agree. CBs not under too much pressure so worth bringing him on but then again if they turn up the heat it could flip. Tricky decision but we need Hendo back in there ASAP.
Thiago is on a booking and doesn't look like he'd be missed if he went off now.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Trent has played really well in this game.

MOTM so far for me.
His crosses have been incisive and dangerous (too bad none of the front three want to get at the end of them or make anything more of them than Mane did).
His defending - normally a sore point - has been much improved and solid.
Yes, Sterling got past him to get to win the penalty too easily, but other than that, I have to say I'm most pleased with his performance of any of our players out there.

Keep it up, lad.
Don't make me look stupid now

[Nineteenx]

Also like to see us be more direct looking for Mane from deeper second half, we've neaar;y had joy from that a few times first half, Mane's so good at getting in front of the defender and making it difficult for him to get a good clearing header on and UAE FC haven't looked too clever at coming back to try and get that second ball, we've won every single one when we've tried it

[Artisan]

Kabak needs to come in for Henderson and Thiago/wijlandum need to make way.

Yeh get Thiago off Kabak on.

[ianlfc]

I'd agree. CBs not under too much pressure so worth bringing him on but then again if they turn up the heat it could flip. Tricky decision but we need Hendo back in there ASAP.
Thiago is on a booking and doesn't look like he'd be missed if he went off now.

The minute we bring Kabak on ,Pep bring Jesus on and it's a completely different game.
It's like a game of chess.

[Steveo]

The minute we bring Kabak on ,Pep bring Jesus on and it's a completely different game.
It's like a game of chess.

Yep - they have a striker. Can play that card. We need to be careful

[HLOGI]

We scared to commit on the counter. We scared of being caught on the counter after a counter. As soon as we break players flood forward by then the player with the ball is scared to continue running or to pass. Thinking about what could happen if we lose it. It seems we want to score in a controlled manner and not concede. We are scared if them in that regard.

[faridtoxteth]

Trent and Gini been great, both doing exactly what they do the best. Trent owning the right side and getting lots of different types of crosses in, Gini just tenacious as fuck.
I think we looked a bit too deferential to them the first fifteen but then realised we can boss them.

[miller0863]

Might think about Milner for Thiago if Jurgen thinks a new CB is too soon for them. Really concerned about going down to 10.

[southernboy]

Congratulations. You've just become qualified to referee PL matches.

Lolz. Comedy gold noods

[Steveo]

6 hours 30 mins since we scored at Anfield...!

Bloody heck..

[Crimson Dynasty]

Yep, Fabinho trailing leg wasn’t intentional and a natural action. Never a Pen if you look at it correctly.

Saying it’s Fabinhos fault is stupid. Nothing he can do in that situation. Watch it in slow motion. Yeah, he didn’t protest as he would have hoped VAR would have a proper look

I don't believe VAR would overturn it or call Oliver to have a look unless it was a clear blatant dive (as in ZERO contact by Fab).

The fact that there was even the slightest of contact (and that Oliver called it immediately) gave them cover to not call it back or have it looked at again.

Sterling had already lost the ball and lost possession as Thiago was essentially taking it back, so going down as soon as he saw that opportunity for contact was the only play he had left.

In retrospect, it was kind of a smart move on his part - much as it begrudges to admit.
Worst case scenario Fab pulls his leg back quick enough and Sterling gets booked for diving, but most likely the ref just ignores it altogether.

[HLOGI]

Klopp will never make that sub though lol. Possible sub is going to be Milner for Thiago. If we concede then Shaq for Jones or Gini. Origi will also maybe come on if we are behind. Those are the 3 subs. If there is a surprise then Ox will come on.

[jozza800]

We've grown into it. But like 80% of the season, we've been sleepwalking through games.

[Nineteenx]

Second half imminent, Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, be a little bit better this half, play the percentages in positions like that Robbo and in others, score score core goals goals goals, Mane at the double

[teesred]

The minute we bring Kabak on ,Pep bring Jesus on and it's a completely different game.
It's like a game of chess.

Kabak has pace. At the end of the day he has to start at some point.

[Steveo]

Great turn by Mané - and we are nearly in there

[Crimson Dynasty]

6 hours 30 mins since we scored at Anfield...!

Bloody heck..

It's not looking positive for us to break that streak against a team that hasn't conceded in 7 games (10 and a half hours plus) and hasn't lost in 13.

[RedNoodle]

What's with the fireworks?

[TheDOC1979]

Kabak has pace. At the end of the day he has to start at some point.

Ok to throw Williams in the deep end, but not Kabak ...

[Steveo]

Opened us up. O:1

We are asleep back - Trent - well my old fella could walk past him.

[3underpar]

Fuck

[miller0863]

That’s the most positive bit of football in the game so far and they score.

Now we’re screwed, we have to score

[Kev0909]

awful by trent, awful doesn't help he's playing with 2 cm's at cb

others not marked because they're not fucking CBS

Fucking stupid as fuck this line-up

[3underpar]

Trent defensive liability

[Artisan]

Those fireworks helped eh....wankers

[RedNoodle]

I was just going to mention that we need(ed) to stop $t£rling waltzing into our box, or we'd pay, and lo and behold that's just what happens.

[HLOGI]

Trent so easy lad. Terrible defender that guy Trent Alexander Arnold. Terrible!!!!!!!

[CCTV]

Cunts

[justme]

another error from trent

[Nineteenx]

1-0 UAE FC get their goal from playing the percentages, firing a shot in knowing they might score, but they've a better chane of finding one of their players if the keeper saves it rather than looking for a pass

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves level here now

[Steveo]

Much as I would love a win I think I would almost rather lose than draw today.

We need the win but if City only take a point then the scum are back in. If we can’t win it I would take City over the scum any day.

[TheDOC1979]

Error from Klopp! Start a natural fucking CB!

[shminkyred]

Have they changed Tactics?

[Crimson Dynasty]

Just as I had praised him a the half, he goes and does that.

[HLOGI]

awful by trent, awful doesn't help he's playing with 2 cm's at cb

others not marked because they're not fucking CBS

Fucking stupid as fuck this line-up

Well spotted not defensively aware in the box.

[LEGS]

Well these are going to walk the league been obvious for a while now.

Going to be tough to break them down now.

There first win since 2003 at Anfield in the league if they hang on.

[Kev0909]

Well spotted not defensively aware in the box.

It's ok playing against not very good teams going forward (still not great and we missed players in midfield going forward like mighty burnley)

but against a good attacking side it's bonkers

[Nineteenx]

Trent, when Mane's pulling off the shoulder there, put the ball in fucking early

[Artisan]

Error from Klopp! Start a natural fucking CB!

We both said it...Playing two midfielders in defence shows way too much respect to a shit city. Klopp will change it soon enough but its too late.

[LEGS]

It's ok playing against not very good teams going forward (still not great and we missed players in midfield going forward like mighty burnley)

but against a good attacking side it's bonkers

Yep agreed Kev.

Kabak should have started.

[TheDOC1979]

Well these are going to walk the league been obvious for a while now.

Going to be tough to break them down now.

There first win since 2003 at Anfield in the league if they hang on.

It’s ok, So was Burnley’s and Brighton. Breaking all types of records this season

[CCTV]

35 mins to turn it around

[Nineteenx]

Corner here, come on Bobby, come on hendo

[justme]

Take off Thiago bring on Kabak and play Henderson in midfield. its not gonna happen though.

[Kev0909]

Don't worry lads, they may have jesus himself on the bench but at least we have Origi

has thiago tried to win the ball since the 3rd min and yellow card?

[Steveo]

Jones goes close. Very unlucky there

[Crimson Dynasty]

Well,..... we all knew the title was gone already, and the notion of breaking out of our slump against the hottest and most in-form team in the league during our worst run of home games was always a big ask, but I was still hoping for something.

Anything, really.

But with our front three all looking blunt and non-existent in this game.....
Really depressing.

Good thing for us, the other teams around us all failed to capitalise over the weekend, so at least top 4 and a Champions League spot is still a realistic target.

Can we please get a Number 9 over the summer who is an actual goal threat?
I love you Bobby, but we need goals more than fancy flicks and 'samba'.

[Nineteenx]

Got to be thinking Kabak for one of the midfielders and moving Hendo to CM by the 70 minute mark

[Kev0909]

we ain't scoring are we?

[boom-klopp]

i’d be shocked to see davies even get a game all season to be honest.

[CCTV]

Don't worry lads, they may have jesus himself on the bench but at least we have Origi

has thiago tried to win the ball since the 3rd min and yellow card?

Won 2 tackles since

[CCTV]

Hard luck Jones

[southernboy]

35 mins to turn it around

I just can’t see us scoring.

[3underpar]

If we can’t score goals we will just keep losing 0-1 all season. Our defense had been very good overall. Just the cost is we can’t score anymore. We’re fucked

[Crimson Dynasty]

Have we even had a shot on target all game?

It's a bit disconcerting when Jones is our biggest threat (with all his shots off target) when our league-leading goalscorer hasn't even tested the goalie yet.

[Nineteenx]

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves level here now, be direct when it's fucking on for fucks sake

[shminkyred]

Don't worry lads, they may have jesus himself on the bench but at least we have Origi

has thiago tried to win the ball since the 3rd min and yellow card?

Just thinking that has to happen soon.....

[Kev0909]

Surprised stones starts over Laporte these days, did laporte ever recover 100% from that bad injury?

[justme]

Its an obvious move to push Henderson into midfield. but Klopp wont make it. because hes stuburn

[TheDOC1979]

Wijnaldum easily beat by stones.

[Steveo]

Penalty - Salah downed

[Kev0909]

that's the only way we can score but it'll do

1-1

[Steveo]

Get iiiiiiiiiin.

If not Mo....


Who.?

[miller0863]

That’s how to take a penalty

[TheDOC1979]

Not a red card? What’s with the inconsistency?

[Crimson Dynasty]

If we can’t score goals we will just keep losing 0-1 all season. Our defense had been very good overall. Just the cost is we can’t score anymore. We’re fucked

Hence the reason we need to replace Bobby with an actual goal-scoring number 9 in the summer.

And also the reason Jota should get the start ahead of him as soon as he's fit and he's able to play again.
Our slump basically started when he went out injured and we missed the timely goals he was providing.

[3underpar]

Fuck yes mo

[Nineteenx]

Penalty from playing fucking direct, I'll keep saying it, that's what we do better than anyone

Booooooooooooooooooooom get the fucking FUCK in 1-1 Salaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

PLAY FUCKING DIRECT

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here now

[miller0863]

Can someone tackle Sterling ffs

[CCTV]

Var in overdrive

[TheDOC1979]

Not a red card? What’s with the inconsistency?

Nope, player covering didn’t see him

[3underpar]

Hence the reason we need to replace Bobby with an actual goal-scoring number 9 in the summer.

And also the reason Jota should get the start ahead of him as soon as he's fit and he's able to play again.
Our slump basically started when he went out injured and we missed the timely goals he was providing.
Agree Crimson, Jota all day going forward ahead of Bobby

[Kev0909]

Get another penalty lads

[LEGS]

Amazed we got that to be honest.

[Steveo]

Thiago coming off for the Power Cube

[CCTV]

Can someone tackle Sterling ffs

Milner :D

[Nineteenx]

Leave one right up there all the time now, all the fucking time, Mane or Mo so that ball over the top is always on

[Crimson Dynasty]

Not a red card? What’s with the inconsistency?

Let's be honest, it was equally as soft a penalty as the one Sterling won.
So at least they're consistent in that regard.

[Steveo]

Let's be honest, it was equally as soft a penalty as the one Sterling won.
So at least they're consistent in that regard.

Yep if you showed fans these pens back I the days of Diego - they would laugh at you .

[Kev0909]

Get the ball to salah!! fall down if they breathe on you mate and lets make it 2-1

only way we'll score another

[fagin]

Well thats how to really dive ...take note of that Sterling !

[shminkyred]

we ain't scoring are we?


Just Keep doing that Brov...:smug:

[HLOGI]

Immediately after scoring we have gone back to stop start walking pace of attack.

[CCTV]

Let's be honest, it was equally as soft a penalty as the one Sterling won.
So at least they're consistent in that regard.

Did the commentators call it that way ?

[Kev0909]

Just Keep doing that Brov...:smug:

Peno's don't count ;)

[TheDOC1979]

Imagine if we could bring on Mbappe?

[Insidious]

Subs on the 67th minute. Rafa likes this!

[RedNoodle]

Can someone tackle Sterling ffs

Our midfield needs to cut out the balls to him at their source. They score lots of their goals in the exact same way, never mind when facing a left back who isn't great when it comes to their defensive duties.

[Nineteenx]

Shaq on for Thiago

Millie on for Jones

Come on come on come ON Liverpool, come the fucking FUCK on Liverpool, do what you do best, be direct, win the second balls, get yourselves ahead here now

[Kev0909]

Why is jones going off?

[CCTV]

Get the ball to salah!! fall down if they breathe on you mate and lets make it 2-1

only way we'll score another

Very optimistic:)

[TheDOC1979]

Why Jones?

[HLOGI]

It is a penalty but the theatrical which if you dont do it these days you dont get shite.

[boom-klopp]

that was horrendous from salad.
dias gave him a 1 metre head start yet he still miscontrolled it.

lucky with the dive but i’ll take them all day long.