UK elections May 2021

[scientificred]

Expecting Labour to get absolutely hammered tonight.
Expecting Sir Keir to resign.
He has not cut it for me.
Always wastes his questions at PMQs like he is in a court room but does not seem to realise there is a time limit and question limit.
Boris chucks him aside far too often with his twat retorts.
Quite embarrassing sometimes.
Don't know what he stands for.
I fear Labour will be a weak opposition for generations.
Angela Rayner or Lisa Nandy maybe?

[Daffydd]

Sucker Starmer doesn't project any personality, he's perceived as just another suit.

Just reading about a candidate whose name was left off the ballot paper after a "printing error", 21st century Britain.

[Nineteenx]

Starmer and all his right wing cronies are still living in the 90's, when pre Blair's impression of the Tory party, the Labour party had 30-40 seats in Scotland and numerous seats in the North with massive majorities who would elect a donkey if it were wearing a red rosette

They are living 30 years in the past and simply won't accept that what Blair did was a one time trick and point blank refuse to accept that a lot of people had their reservations about Blair but voted for him as the lesser of 2 evils, many expected him to move more to the left in the second or third term, and when that didn't materialise, the once massive majorities started to diminish pretty rapidly, you can see it by looking at the historic election results in those seats.

Starmer and his mob have tried, persistently, to blame Corbyn and others for the loss of these seats, while working against them to try and lose them, but the truth of the matter is, these seats had their majorities massively reduced through Blair's time as leader.

Labour need to rid itself of Starmer, Phillips, Benn, Kinnock, Streeting, Ashworth and all the other Blair relics infesting the party and become the party that represents the people it was formed to again, while all those Blair loyalists remain in Labour, they will never get elected with the policies the UK desperately needs, and all of those and their other cronies not mentioned have worked harder than anyone in any party to ensure a Labour Party worth having wasn't elected in 2017

[Daffydd]

Sucker Starmer has sacked Angela Rayner so Labour should win now...what a prize cnut he is

[teesred]

Hes only sacked her from campaign management. She's still deputy leader.

Labour are done for a considerable time. I genuinely don't see how they win people over.
It's a really sad state in this country now when people would rather vote for thundercunts like Johnson than a decent and fair man like Corbyn.
Unfortunately Corbyns legacy has damaged Labour beyond repair for a long time its 100% unjust but that's the way it is. He doesn't deserve the criticism.or reputation he has. He believes in fairness but the British media did such a job in him.
The average voter in this country is won over by charismatic leaders regardless of what a cunt they are. Almost like policies don't matter anymore. A trebled defect, 150k deaths, cronyism, child poverty and food banks at record highs, continuous cuts to education and public services. Its like how bad do they have to do before people wake upto what a pack of cunts they are?
I live just up the road from Hartlepool and they have lost a former red wall. What they think the Tories are going to do for them I've no idea but it doesn't detract from how poor Labour have been.
They treated the people of Hartlepool with contempt, Paul Williams was the candidate ( he lost his Stockton seat where I live in the last election) , hes a massive remainer yet Hartlepool is a massive brexit area. It was a non starter.
They need to forget the old guard of Labour voters and try to engage with the young people who are now questioning them. Theres no identity under Starmer, hes as bland as water and I know politicians are untrustworthy but did anyone really fall for his backstabbing act?
He backed Corbyn for years, Rayner did too but are now happy to blame him for everything.
They are a total mess and the worst thing that happened was the wrong Miliband being elected as leader. I think their demise started with the banking crisis but just got worse and worse after Ed was leader.

[redebreck]

Hes only sacked her from campaign management. She's still deputy leader.

Labour are done for a considerable time. I genuinely don't see how they win people over.
It's a really sad state in this country now when people would rather vote for thundercunts like Johnson than a decent and fair man like Corbyn.
Unfortunately Corbyns legacy has damaged Labour beyond repair for a long time its 100% unjust but that's the way it is. He doesn't deserve the criticism.or reputation he has. He believes in fairness but the British media did such a job in him.
The average voter in this country is won over by charismatic leaders regardless of what a cunt they are. Almost like policies don't matter anymore. A trebled defect, 150k deaths, cronyism, child poverty and food banks at record highs, continuous cuts to education and public services. Its like how bad do they have to do before people wake upto what a pack of cunts they are?
I live just up the road from Hartlepool and they have lost a former red wall. What they think the Tories are going to do for them I've no idea but it doesn't detract from how poor Labour have been.
They treated the people of Hartlepool with contempt, Paul Williams was the candidate ( he lost his Stockton seat where I live in the last election) , hes a massive remainer yet Hartlepool is a massive brexit area. It was a non starter.
They need to forget the old guard of Labour voters and try to engage with the young people who are now questioning them. Theres no identity under Starmer, hes as bland as water and I know politicians are untrustworthy but did anyone really fall for his backstabbing act?
He backed Corbyn for years, Rayner did too but are now happy to blame him for everything.
They are a total mess and the worst thing that happened was the wrong Miliband being elected as leader. I think their demise started with the banking crisis but just got worse and worse after Ed was leader.
The banking crisis that was created by greedy bankers who were de-regulated in the 1980s by Thatcher's government. Tory tossers including the media occasionally blame the Labour party for the crisis and many of the voters believe them!
I've had my fill of politicians generally. I would love to see Bill Shankly's socialism given a chance in the UK. Will it happen? Will it f.....

[Martyboy]

Sadly that fascist,globalist agenda loving wank Lord Drakeford is still gonna be running the show down here in Wales...He's promising to be 'radical' and 'ambitious' in his next term....Sounds like Hitler's old pal Joachim von Ribbentrop....Twat!...:mad::mad:

[scientificred]

Sadly that fascist,globalist agenda loving wank Lord Drakeford is still gonna be running the show down here in Wales...He's promising to be 'radical' and 'ambitious' in his next term....Sounds like Hitler's old pal Joachim von Ribbentrop....Twat!...:mad::mad:
Or perhaps Ron Vibbentrop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTLeBybJhSo

[teesred]

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The banking crisis that was created by greedy bankers who were de-regulated in the 1980s by Thatcher's government. Tory tossers including the media occasionally blame the Labour party for the crisis and many of the voters believe them!
I've had my fill of politicians generally. I would love to see Bill Shankly's socialism given a chance in the UK. Will it happen? Will it f.....

Totally agree yet it is still a stick that some people beat Labour with.
Labour are really tarnished now and it will take a decade minimum before people might have faith in them again. They just keep making mistakes all the time.
Starmer is not winning over anyone new. That's the biggest issue.

[scientificred]

Totally agree yet it is still a stick that some people beat Labour with.
Labour are really tarnished now and it will take a decade minimum before people might have faith in them again. They just keep making mistakes all the time.
Starmer is not winning over anyone new. That's the biggest issue.
Labour need some kind of fundamental shift.
I do not know what they stand for anymore.
Perhaps there needs to be a split.
Starter should have resigned.
The longer they persist with him the harder it will get.
BoJo is muscling in on labour heartlands with labour promises.
Will he fulfill those promises?
Levelling up? = More debt that they may pretend to be addressing.
The country is now already deeply in debt.
When/how/who will pay that back.
Unless Labour realise what is ahead of them and present a realistic, coherent long term vision I think they will be gone for an eon.
Please resign Starmer and let the party do what it must .

[teesred]

Labour need some kind of fundamental shift.
I do not know what they stand for anymore.
Perhaps there needs to be a split.
Starter should have resigned.
The longer they persist with him the harder it will get.
BoJo is muscling in on labour heartlands with labour promises.
Will he fulfill those promises?
Levelling up? = More debt that they may pretend to be addressing.
The country is now already deeply in debt.
When/how/who will pay that back.
Unless Labour realise what is ahead of them and present a realistic, coherent long term vision I think they will be gone for an eon.
Please resign Starmer and let the party do what it must .

Agree fully.
Hes likeable and has zero charisna, unfortunately it counts for a lot now.
The Tories are using things that Corbyn talked about and are winning areas like you say.
It makes me laugh when people talk about Labour and the financial crisis of 2008.
Our economy is in the worst shape its been in for probably ever and they've had over a decade to sort it out. Add that to 150k deaths during the pandemic,the cronyism and blatant lies. People still vote for them, I cant figure it out.

[redebreck]

Agree fully.
Hes likeable and has zero charisna, unfortunately it counts for a lot now.
The Tories are using things that Corbyn talked about and are winning areas like you say.
It makes me laugh when people talk about Labour and the financial crisis of 2008.
Our economy is in the worst shape its been in for probably ever and they've had over a decade to sort it out. Add that to 150k deaths during the pandemic,the cronyism and blatant lies. People still vote for them, I cant figure it out.

A lot of it is because of the mainstream media.
Brainwashing to a degree.

[Daffydd]

Lucky dip anyone?

Northumberland winners decided by drawing names from box as Conservatives take control

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/northumberland-council-winners-elections-names-20543452

[redebreck]

Lucky dip anyone?

Northumberland winners decided by drawing names from box as Conservatives take control

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/northumberland-council-winners-elections-names-20543452

Crazy.
Democracy gone mad.