Wbc world title fury vs wilder

[fagin]

Wow ! Wow ! Wow ! This fight deserved it's own thread.

5 Knock downs Epic fight

Both fighters are in a league above AJ even on his best day.

Both fighters can hold their heads high after this performance.It has to go down as one of the best fights in history

......FURY retains his belt as the Worlds Best

Really don't know why the name Wilder in the heading didn't come up in blocks.I tried but didn't know how to change it.

[ianlfc]

I woke and flicked it on at round 10. Wilder could hardly stand, obviously he give it his all. Huge balls on both men it looked and from what I heard about the 4th round it was a classic fight.
I'm not a big boxing fan but I can appreciate the effort they give even stepping in the ring.
A pity Wilder didn't acknowledge Fury being the better fighter after the fight but maybe he'll reflect in the coming days.

[Kev0909]

defo worth staying in the pub till 6am 10/10 would do again./

[ianlfc]

defo worth staying in the pub till 6am 10/10 would do again./
Thoughts and prayers for everyone in the pub who had to listen to you through out the night 🤣🤣

[teesred]

Wow ! Wow ! Wow ! This fight deserved it's own thread.

5 Knock downs Epic fight

Both fighters are in a league above AJ even on his best day.

Both fighters can hold their heads high after this performance.It has to go down as one of the best fights in history

......FURY retains his belt as the Worlds Best

Really don't know why the name Wilder in the heading didn't come up in blocks.I tried but didn't know how to change it.

Wilder is nowhere near AJ. He's lost 3 fights convincingly against the only good opponent he's ever been in with.
It was a great fight entertainment wise but an absolute mess.

[Kev0909]

Thoughts and prayers for everyone in the pub who had to listen to you through out the night ����

Oh thats not the half of it, next morning sunday, went on a 14 mile walk at 9am a group of us for a local charity, raised 2700 overall including some other things, so i can do good things too!

Of course this ended going to the pub after it was done, and of course, in kev fashion another solid 7 hours of drinking, finally home at 12.30 considering I had next to no sleep been ill all week, and went out and drank too much the night before, i did well!

Not young forever right :o

P.S the saving for sweden and other things is going really really well..... haha.. deary me

[fagin]

Wilder is nowhere near AJ. He's lost 3 fights convincingly against the only good opponent he's ever been in with.
It was a great fight entertainment wise but an absolute mess.

Haven't followed AJ that much always thought him to be a glorified pinup boy to be honest.
But i don't think AJ has the chin to pull through against Wilder.

[teesred]

Haven't followed AJ that much always thought him to be a glorified pinup boy to be honest.
But i don't think AJ has the chin to pull through against Wilder.

Hes a better boxer than Wilder. He has much more to his game than one punch which is pretty much all Wilder has, it'll be interesting to see where he goes from here. I felt sorry for him at the end, he was hanging in there through sheer guts and pride. Could have been dangerous, he took a real battering.

[fagin]

Hes a better boxer than Wilder. He has much more to his game than one punch which is pretty much all Wilder has, it'll be interesting to see where he goes from here. I felt sorry for him at the end, he was hanging in there through sheer guts and pride. Could have been dangerous, he took a real battering.

You're right about AJ being a better boxer but he seemed like he had no answers when Usyk bombarded him with punches.This is what Wilder brings although a one punch artist he really showed great stamina and endurance in this last fight and considerable flurries of punches i didn't think he was capable of.I don't think he was able to carry the extra weight he put on.Having said that he was being mauled by a 280 odd lb guy in Fury.

[teesred]

You're right about AJ being a better boxer but he seemed like he had no answers when Usyk bombarded him with punches.This is what Wilder brings although a one punch artist he really showed great stamina and endurance in this last fight and considerable flurries of punches i didn't think he was capable of.I don't think he was able to carry the extra weight he put on.Having said that he was being mauled by a 280 odd lb guy in Fury.

Yep. In AJs rematch with Usyk he needs a different game plan as theres nobody who'll be able to outbox Usyk. Hes so clever. He needs to go back to what he's used to and good at,blasting people out early but even that probably won't be enough yo beat Usyk.
Fury vs Usyk would be an intriguing fight if it comes off. Usyk could frustrate Fury with his skill.
I'd love to see Whyte beat Fury but I don't see that happening.

[fagin]

Yep. In AJs rematch with Usyk he needs a different game plan as theres nobody who'll be able to outbox Usyk. Hes so clever. He needs to go back to what he's used to and good at,blasting people out early but even that probably won't be enough yo beat Usyk.
Fury vs Usyk would be an intriguing fight if it comes off. Usyk could frustrate Fury with his skill.
I'd love to see Whyte beat Fury but I don't see that happening.

I'm reading the latest Paper talk they want AJ to step aside from his rematch and let Usyk fight Fury with AJ possibly taking on the winner.
It also suggests AJ needs a warm up fight before his rematch.
Also on Wilder he is not retiring and wants AJ in May 22. Interesting speculation surrounding all these fighters.
Whyte just may not get past Otto Wallin in his next fight.Wallin gave Fury a tough time especially with the cut to Fury's eye.

[teesred]

Yeahnits a tough fight for Whyte but that's why I like him, he doesn't duck anyone. Takes risks because he's had to get somewhere near a well overdue title shot.
I've read all the talk about AJ stepping aside. I'm sure Furys camp would do that for him if the boot was in the other foot.........Not. Frank Warren is the one doing all the talking. He's never had a good word for AJ so I'd doubt there would be any favours coming his way now it suits him.
If Furys camp had been as serious about the undisputed fight as AJ and Hearn where it would have been made. There was really no need for a 3rd fight against Wilder despite how entertaining it was.

[LFC vs PFC]

The issue with an AJ Usyk rematch is that unless AJ utilises the fact that he's the bigger man, he'll be outboxed again.
Watching the Fury fight, he was leaning on Wilder at every opportunity given that he was 15st heavier! Wilder had nothing left to give after the 6th. If AJ does this and can land some power punches then he should win, but trying to outbox Usyk will fail again.

As for AJ Fury, the only advantage AJ has is the power of the punch (which in turn is less than Wilder's), I can't see how AJ wins that.

AJ vs Wilder, Wilder wins due to AJ's inability to take a punch.

[teesred]

The issue with an AJ Usyk rematch is that unless AJ utilises the fact that he's the bigger man, he'll be outboxed again.
Watching the Fury fight, he was leaning on Wilder at every opportunity given that he was 15st heavier! Wilder had nothing left to give after the 6th. If AJ does this and can land some power punches then he should win, but trying to outbox Usyk will fail again.

As for AJ Fury, the only advantage AJ has is the power of the punch (which in turn is less than Wilder's), I can't see how AJ wins that.

AJ vs Wilder, Wilder wins due to AJ's inability to take a punch.

Agree about AJ Usyk rematch. He needs to go for it like he used to do in order to regain those belts. It's nit beyond him and for the first time he'll really be the underdog. Might work for him.
Fury is a dirty fighter, headlock, leaning in hitting round the back of the head but he gets away with it. It's all hype train with him now though so nobody brings it up. DAZN had him in their 10 best ever heavyweights. One title defence! And against only one fighter who has to prove he wasn't a one trick pony who fought fodder for 40 something fights.

I don't see Wilder beating any of the good heavyweights, he's not a good boxer, never has been in my opinion. His pride could have seen him seriously injured on Saturday.
I sadly don't see anyone beating Fury right now.

[CCTV]

Yeahnits a tough fight for Whyte but that's why I like him, he doesn't duck anyone. Takes risks because he's had to get somewhere near a well overdue title shot.
I've read all the talk about AJ stepping aside. I'm sure Furys camp would do that for him if the boot was in the other foot.........Not. Frank Warren is the one doing all the talking. He's never had a good word for AJ so I'd doubt there would be any favours coming his way now it suits him.
If Furys camp had been as serious about the undisputed fight as AJ and Hearn where it would have been made. There was really no need for a 3rd fight against Wilder despite how entertaining it was.

It was contractually obligated with a rematch clause, much like with Joshua.

[CCTV]

Just a casual boxing fans, I'd say the fury wilder trilogy has been really good for the sport and setup some potentially interesting fights depending on who wins their next fights.
Big unification fight would be the one to carry on the excitement.

[fagin]

Just a casual boxing fans, I'd say the fury wilder trilogy has been really good for the sport and setup some potentially interesting fights depending on who wins their next fights.
Big unification fight would be the one to carry on the excitement.

Even to the casual fan either fight Fury VS Wilder 3 or AJ Vs Usyk had to be the most entertaining fights we've witnessed in a long time.Hopefully it continues because Boxing in general needed an injection such as these fights provided.

[CCTV]

Even to the casual fan either fight Fury VS Wilder 3 or AJ Vs Usyk had to be the most entertaining fights we've witnessed in a long time.Hopefully it continues because Boxing in general needed an injection such as these fights provided.

Yup can see a fury v aj/usyk unification bout, then wilder v usyk/aj for the next title fight.

[teesred]

It was contractually obligated with a rematch clause, much like with Joshua.

Yes but thry could have made step aside offer. They clearly didn't and had the public believing the undisputed fight was in for this summer when all along had no intention.

[teesred]

Yup can see a fury v aj/usyk unification bout, then wilder v usyk/aj for the next title fight.

Wilder probably won't get a title shot for a while. There's other people in line for mandatory fights before him, he has no belt do doesn't have any leverage.
There's only a small window of opportunity to make an undisputed fight and will probably only happen if AJ beats Usyk in the rematch I think. If Usyk still holds the belts he will surely have to take a mandatory ( the reason he actually got the AJ fight in the first place) or vacate one of the belts.

[Insidious]

I'm a (very!) casual follower of Boxing and would claim to know almost diddly squat about it.

Why is Whyte being talked about as a possible opponent for Fury at some stage? Joshua made it look very comfortable in that....was it 6th+7th(?) round fight where he knocked Whyte out - and Joshua is seen as inferior to Fury in most quarters, so it seems nuts to me that Whyte would get a chance to fight Fury. In the unlikely event that he won, he could fight the winner of Usyk v Joshua 2 to contest for all the belts(?!?!) - I don't get it. Is it the "styles make fights" thing and he's seen as an appropriate match?

Don't be afraid to feel like you're being condescending when explaining it to me - I am really clueless on the subject and will happily digest even the most seemingly basic info on the subject.

[teesred]

Whyte is mandatory challenger for the belt Fury holds ( WBC) and is years overdue a title fight. He's easily I the top 5 heavyweights yet way poorer fighters have had title shots,some if them have had a few like Dominic Brezeale (who is shite).
He has to negotiate a very tricky fight against Otto Wallin first though and that won't be easy. That's the reason I like Whyte, he doesn't swerve anyone.

[eggy81]

Wilder beats aj. Fury beats usyk IMO. Aj has totally lost his bollocks

[teesred]

Wilder beats aj. Fury beats usyk IMO. Aj has totally lost his bollocks

Hes been pictured with Canelo and Eddy Reynoso ( Canelos trainer) so speculation us that he's going to split with Rob Mcracken. I think he needs to, needs a different angle on things.
All the best have mixed it up. Fury looks brutal now under Sugarhill Steward.

[teesred]

Whytes fight against Wallin is off now too. Might be a swerve that so he doesn't lose his mandatory.

[CCTV]

Yes but thry could have made step aside offer. They clearly didn't and had the public believing the undisputed fight was in for this summer when all along had no intention.

As you say in the following post, it's unlikely worth it for wilder to step aside, same way there's no chance of aj stepping aside to leave usyk v fury.
Think you underestimate wilder.

[teesred]

As you say in the following post, it's unlikely worth it for wilder to step aside, same way there's no chance of aj stepping aside to leave usyk v fury.
Think you underestimate wilder.

Maybe. I just dont think he's fought anyone decent and won. Comprehensively outclassed in all 3 against Fury.
The majority of his record is pure fodder. That's what the US fighters do, they go around the States racking up unbeaten records against tomato cans.
The Charlo brothers are prime examples.

[CCTV]

Maybe. I just dont think he's fought anyone decent and won. Comprehensively outclassed in all 3 against Fury.
The majority of his record is pure fodder. That's what the US fighters do, they go around the States racking up unbeaten records against tomato cans.
The Charlo brothers are prime examples.

I though Fury outclassed him too, but he nearly put him away on a few occasions.
Can take a punch and throw a punch. I get what you mean about cannon fodder, but it seems a little disrespectful.

Didn't he stop ortiz, who put Joshua away ?

Have they fought many of the same fighters ?

[teesred]

I though Fury outclassed him too, but he nearly put him away on a few occasions.
Can take a punch and throw a punch. I get what you mean about cannon fodder, but it seems a little disrespectful.

Didn't he stop ortiz, who put Joshua away ?

Have they fought many of the same fighters ?

Wilder KO'D Ortiz twice.
AJ hasn't fought him, he lost to Ruiz Jr.
They've both fought and KO'D Dominic Brezeale and Eric Molina. They are the only 2.

[CCTV]

Wilder KO'D Ortiz twice.
AJ hasn't fought him, he lost to Ruiz Jr.
They've both fought and KO'D Dominic Brezeale and Eric Molina. They are the only 2.

Cheers, must have confused ortiz with ruiz.

Be nice to see them all fight each other over the next 18-24 months.