Match Thread : Atletico Madrid v Liverpool

[miller0863]

Liverpool XI

Alisson

Trent Matip Van Dijk Robertson

Kieta Henderson Milner

Salah Firmino Mane

[CCTV]

The Wanda Metropolitan is lit beautifully as kick off approaches ;)

Big win on offer tonight, up the reds

[Nineteenx]

Alisson

Trent Matip Van Dijk Robertson

Kieta Henderson Milner

Salah Firmino Mane

Our best possible line up from those available gets the nod to start this one, I expect our lads to administer a thorough and proper bumming, get the win and another absolutely vital 3 points here tonight

Come the fuck on Liverpool!

[southernboy]

It has to be said, that’s an impressive stadium. Happy memories for our lads.

[vin]

Keita?

[Nineteenx]

Decent start so far, patient, not trying to force it or go gung ho too early, come the fuck on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here now

[Insidious]

Hahahahahaha have that!

[CCTV]

Salah hasn't done much :D

Mo Salah scores 0-1 :)

[Steveo]

Best in the world….
Unreal beats 5 and then shoots and Milner gets the goal

[southernboy]

That will be another £50,000 per week ;)

[Nineteenx]

Decent start so far, patient, not trying to force it or go gung ho too early, come the fuck on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here now

Booooooooooooooooooooooooom get the fucking FUCK in 1-0 Salaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah has his effort diverted home by Milllliiiiiieeeeeee

Come the fuck on now Liverpool, control this game, get yourselves a second goal here now

The Robbo crossing behind their defence that Mo can pick up one v one at the far side if not turned in will prove a good avenue of attack for us

[CCTV]

Best in the world….
Unreal beats 5 and then shoots and Milner gets the goal

Did it touch Milner ?

[miller0863]

Wow Naby lad

[Insidious]

Keita?

That's King Naby Lad if you don't mind :lol:

[CCTV]

Keith with a cracker right of centre just outside the box volley

[southernboy]

What a strike! Keita slowly paying back that massive fee.

[Steveo]

Keitaaaaaaaaaa

aaaaaaaaaaaaa


aaaaaaaaaaaaa


Utter garbage that lad :D

Boom

[Nineteenx]

Booooooooooooooooooooooom get the fucking FUCK in 2-0 Keeeeiiiiittttaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa absolutely bummed that one home

Come the FUCK on Liverpool, control this, get yourselves a third goal here now

[vin]

Keita?

That was a prediction that he was about to step up.

obviously

[southernboy]

Mané a tad petulant tonight. Needs to be careful.

[Insidious]

That was a prediction that he was about to step up.

obviously

Keep up the predictions then and you might win us the Champion's League :lol:

[Nineteenx]

Atletico at it again trying to get Mane into trouble, players running into him claiming to have been elbowed, the pricks, Jurgen and Hendo want to have a word with the officials about that and how they conned the officials into booking Mane in the first leg in 19-20 doing the same

Come the fuck on Liverpool, control this and get yourselves a third goal here now

[Steveo]

Why are we getting involved with them in the dark arts. We will lose that. No need we are winning. Come on guys don’t lose focus

[southernboy]

That’s a soft goal to concede.

[Steveo]

Trent with a great and vital clearance

But They score. They look like they can walk through us suddenly

1:2

Balls

[Nineteenx]

Great defending by Trent there

2-1 decent goal from Atletico to be fair, although Lemar should NOT have been able to get so far by the touchline as he was allowed

Come the fuck on Liverpool, control this, keep the press and intensity that comes with it, get yourselves a third goal here now

[CCTV]

Come on var.....

Goal stands.

Naby bet by Lemar who pulls it back and the shot hits griezmann and the back of the net

[TheDOC1979]

Athletico need to be taught a lesson here today.

Good game so far but we conceded far too easily.

[CCTV]

Alisson bails out Mane

[Steveo]

At least Salah got credited with the goal. Shot was on target

[Nineteenx]

Athletico need to be taught a lesson here today.

Good game so far but we conceded far too easily.

Very slack from Naby to let Lemar breeze past him as he did, then to leave Lemar when he played the ball and for Matip to step back instead of forward to hold the line, but they were all slight errors aside from Keita's original slackness and Atletico worked it very well to be fair

Come the fuck on Liverpool, get yourselves a third goal here now

[TheDOC1979]

Mane needs to stop diving / going down so easily. Ref seems decent so far

[Steveo]

2:2 Griezman

[southernboy]

We need half time here. We’ve become almost nervous with the ball.

2-2

[skyebo]

Like a knife through butter 2-2.

[Steveo]

Need a midfield

[TheDOC1979]

Keita weak defending there. Too easy

[CCTV]

Atletico equalise, soft defending on the right from Naby again and a decent pass sees griezmann catch a flatfooted defence on its heels

[Nineteenx]

2-2 Atletico, now that was slack, Keita lets a man get by him too easily again, Virgil absolutely sleeping there to let Greizzman run into the only place he could and the ball could be played into, the angles restricting it to only that made for him

Come the FUCK on now Liverpool, nick yourselves a third here NOW

[HLOGI]

Very good that Henderson as a 6. Not smelling danger not in the right area to cut of the pass. Naby very weak. All 3 middielders were around the box yet we concede

[LEGS]

I blame Fabinho 😂

Seriously get Fab on at HT

[TheDOC1979]

Combination of fuck ups. Keita allowing someone to go passed him and Virgil really needs to do better for a world class CB

[HLOGI]

Firmino really linking play well hey such an asset. Also pressing relentlessly top quality

[southernboy]

I’m starting to think a draw wouldn’t be a bad result, despite the fact we had a two-goal lead.

[CCTV]

Lemar goes round the outside of the trent but it's an overcooked cross thankfully

[HLOGI]

I blame Fabinho 😂

Seriously get Fab on at HT

He is not good enough dont u knw. Henderson is our best 6

[Nineteenx]

Very good that Henderson as a 6. Not smelling danger not in the right area to cut of the pass. Naby very weak. All 3 middielders were around the box yet we concede

He was in exactly the right place, made the angle, only one possible place the ball could be played and for Greizzman, who was Virgil's man, to run into to connect with it, Virgil was fast asleep

[TheDOC1979]

Usually happens after we humble a poor side then come up against decent opposition and fall asleep after we think we’ve already won the game.

[HLOGI]

Keita with a good goal and a bad game

[CCTV]

Alisson saves from Felix this time, our motm right now

[HLOGI]

He was in exactly the right place, made the angle, only one possible place the ball could be played and for Greizzman, who was Virgil's man, to run into to connect with it, Virgil was fast asleep

Blah blah blah. Shud have been a shield cutting of the pass to Griezmann. Poor positional awareness from him and Van Dijk

[Crimson Dynasty]

We desperately need half time to come quick here.
Klopp needs to give these lads a talking to.

Composure, completely gone.

[Insidious]

That touch from João Felix was filthier than my Uncle's internet search history.

Crikey, we're getting some game here. Infuriating to have been 2-0 up and be in this position, but much better than watching two Oil clubs anyway.

Come on lads, get the attacking cohesion back.

[CCTV]

Alisson saves from Lemar now

[Steveo]

We desperately need half time to come quick here.
Klopp needs to give these lads a talking to.

He has a problem across the entirety of the midfield. It’s spooked the back line who will make mistakes. No screening tonight

Virgil looks lost a little

[Nineteenx]

Usually happens after we humble a poor side then come up against decent opposition and fall asleep after we think we’ve already won the game.

If by 'think we've already won the game' you mean drop our intensity and invite the opposition to come forward without pressing them, I agree, not just after we've humbled a side, every single time we drop off, we absolutely suck at that

[TheDOC1979]

We desperately need half time to come quick here.
Klopp needs to give these lads a talking to.

With his plan b?

Really good side athletico. Just don’t understand some of the incompetence that gets served up against good sides.

[HLOGI]

Poor 2 or 3 minutes with the ball prior to the goal. Firmino thrice and all the others gave it away or missplaced or made a close pass where a team mate had to strecth for it. That roused the opponenent and their crowd.

Also seems when we are pressed we actually crap in possesion.

[redman99]

It started at 2 nil. Wayward passing gave hope to AM. Now 2 2 and our midfield is non existent. Keita especially.

[Crimson Dynasty]

If we manage to hang on to a draw, or somehow coma back to win it, Allisson is the MOTM for keeping us hanging in without a doubt.

[Nineteenx]

Think Naby needs to come off at HT scored a brilliant goal, but he's all over the place in the press and hugely culpable in both their goals

[Steveo]

Suarez isn’t even on the pitch yet.

Hmm - we would all bite an arm off for a draw here. :D

[Crimson Dynasty]

It started at 2 nil. Wayward passing gave hope to AM. Now 2 2 and our midfield is non existent. Keita especially.

He should be taken off at the half, and replaced with Fabby maybe.
Thanks for the worldie and the contribution, but we need to shore up that midfield sharp-ish.

[TheDOC1979]

If by 'think we've already won the game' you mean drop our intensity and invite the opposition to come forward without pressing them, I agree, not just after we've humbled a side, every single time we drop off, we absolutely suck at that

Yep. It’s an annoying feature to our players, collectively which I don’t get.

I mean we humbled Norwich, came undone at Brentford when we dropped the intensity. Humbled Porto, got served a lesson first half against city, took the lead twice, and still dropped off. Same with Watford and now today.

[faridtoxteth]

Scored a nice goal but Keita is having a terrible game. Pull him at half time Jurgen. Our midfield is non existent.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Suarez isn’t even on the pitch yet.

Hmm - we would all bite an arm off for a draw here. :D

....and an ear.

I hear Iron Mike is a Liverpool FC admirer.
No, seriously.

[TheDOC1979]

....and an ear.

I hear Iron Mike is a Liverpool FC admirer.
No, seriously.

LFC, club of the people, and the occasional cannibal

[LEGS]

Alisson has been excellent.

We need to drop a touch deeper they are getting in with ease.

Still we have done well to be level as they should be in front.

[HLOGI]

Proper test. I said on the weekend Atleti and United will be a barometer of where we will be in May in terms of winning stuff. Watford were atrocious.

We have 5 clean sheets in the league but i think 4 of those we were lucky. We are not managing games looking after the ball, making tactical fouls etc.

At 2-0 u let the oppo have the ball deep in their half you reset and wait to hirt them on counter. But we are like a basketball team. We have to attack every 24 seconds

[skyebo]

If the midfield play as bad at the weekend, we'll have big problems.

[LEGS]

Think Naby needs to come off at HT scored a brilliant goal, but he's all over the place in the press and hugely culpable in both their goals

Still he lasted until HT this time in Madrid !

Need Fab on in his place to tighten up well he is the only option as Ox wont like this game

[HLOGI]

Jota to rescue it late on after a cross from Kostas

[Steveo]

....and an ear.

I hear Iron Mike is a Liverpool FC admirer.
No, seriously.

Incredible fighter and though Ali is the greatest - Prime Mike Tyson - beats all comers.

[Nineteenx]

Very good contest this one, very good tactical battle too, thought both the goals we conceded were soft, Keita most culpable for the first, Virgil absolutely sleeping for the second, Atletico are playing 532 letting us have it, then springing quickly to 352 with the extra width in midfield easily outnumbering our 3 in there, so we need to make adjustments maybe one of the FB stay one goes, one of the wide forwards not as advanced the other side, needs to be some adjustment so we can have 5 in midfield as quickly as Atletico are springing it

Over the Jurgen to work his HT magic, address that issue, make sure we're much better second half, administer a bumming, get the win and another absolutely vital 3 points

[miller0863]

Sorry but Keita cannot disguise how poor he is with the occasional spectacular goal. He’s nowhere near good enough. The midfield and defence has been terrible, they should all offer Alisson their week’s wages, he’s the only thing stopping us from conceding 4 goals in 20 minutes.
Absolutely terrible.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Incredible fighter and though Ali is the greatest - Prime Mike Tyson beats all comers

And so far, Alli is the greatest in this game, at least.

Now can we get Mike a shirt and get him to get that midfield some mettle?

[Insidious]

Suarez isn’t even on the pitch yet.

Hmm - we would all bite an arm off for a draw here. :D

Obviously seeing the match pan out this way is annoying, but I would have taken a draw before the game, though in fairness in my mind that would have been with a weakened (rotated) side for the weekend.

Losing this at full strength would feel a real waste.

[CCTV]

Switched off after Keita's goal.

Keita hasn't been solid at defending in the crucial rcm berth and it's shown. Surprised we didn't see him and Milner swap flanks.

4231 would solve a lot our issues tonight as I see it

Hendo Milner
Keita Bobby Mane
Salah

Should be better second half..

[Crimson Dynasty]

Obviously seeing the match pan out this way is annoying, but I would have taken a draw before the game, though in fairness in my mind that would have been with a weakened (rotated) side for the weekend.

Losing this at full strength would feel a real waste.

Maybe its for the best that this game is tougher than we thought and not the routine walk in the park some might have imagined.

That Watford game did us no favours.
They were so shambolic that not only did it hide our still persistent flaws, it also got some players to get into their heads that this is how games were going to be moving forward.

Better to be brought crashing back down to Earth before we play the Mancs who will no doubt be looking to turn their own mess around and give Ole his security blanket win.

[vin]

Fab on, Hendo to the right

[teesred]

New thread for the second half?..........

[redebreck]

Hope Jürgen takes Keita off early. He's been poor defensively imo

[Nineteenx]

Switched off after Keita's goal.

Keita hasn't been solid at defending in the crucial rcm berth and it's shown. Surprised we didn't see him and Milner swap flanks.

4231 would solve a lot our issues tonight as I see it

Hendo Milner
Keita Bobby Mane
Salah

Should be better second half..

It very well might, because we're getting outnumbered in midfield so easily when Atletico spring because we reverted to the 4312, so with Mane and Mo both narrow most often when we lose possession, both their full backs break with no player tracking them or going with them, needs tweaking, one full back keeping further forward and the opposite forward staying wide would be a useful adjustment

Can't excuse Virgil's sleeping for the second and blame other areas of the pitch, that was an easy situation he should have defended, or Naby diving in, getting squared up and letting players go past him too easy

[CCTV]

Fabinho on for Keita

[Nineteenx]

Fabinho on for Kieta, not going to help if we don't stop the 5v3 midfield overload we kept allowing in the first half with tweaks and happened quite a lot because Mo and Mane were both central

Here we go, come the FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here now

[Nineteenx]

COrner here, come on Vrgil atone for your sleeping earlier

[3underpar]

Our back line is ball watching badly. Ali looks like his knee took a knock.

[CCTV]

It very well might, because we're getting outnumbered in midfield so easily when Atletico spring because we reverted to the 4312, so with Mane and Mo both narrow most often when we lose possession, both their full backs break with no player tracking them or going with them, needs tweaking, one full back keeping further forward and the opposite forward staying wide would be a useful adjustment

Can't excuse Virgil's sleeping for the second and blame other areas of the pitch, that was an easy situation he should have defended, or Naby diving in, getting squared up and letting players go past him too easy

Naby got beat crucially for both goals and has been hooked.

Virgil was caught flat footed as were others

[TheDOC1979]

Alison needs a 500k a week contract based on tonight

[CCTV]

Alisson again

[Steveo]

Alisson saves us again

[CCTV]

Griezmann red carded

[3underpar]

Oh wow red card Griezman, high boot to Bobby’s face.

[Steveo]

Griezman straight red card. VAR checking

[Insidious]

They got that right. Not violent intent but so, so high.

[3underpar]

Let’s see if we can break down another bus a man down.

[Nineteenx]

Yay red card for Greizzman

Come the FUCK on now Liverpool, get yourselves ahead here NOW, get the bumming administered here now, get the win and another absolutely vital 3 points

[TheDOC1979]

I’d be pissed if that was given against us. It was with mane against city and we felt that was harsh too

[LFC-DPG]

Ref will even this up. Madrid players will be going down left right and centre.

[LEGS]

They got that right. Not violent intent but so, so high.

Bit like Mane against City.

You will get a red now for that but he didnt mean to do it

[Nineteenx]

Free header for Virgil, tamely nods it back to the keeper

Come the fuck on Liverpool, get yourselves in front here now

[CCTV]

Corner.... VVD heads it st the keeper who saves comfortably enough

[CCTV]

Robbo blasts over narrowly

[teesred]

The deleting of posts at 100 was a great big lie.

[southernboy]

The deleting of posts at 100 was a great big lie.

Maybe match threads are exempt. If not, they should be

[Nineteenx]

Jurgen needs to get in the ear of the fourth official to tell the ref what Atletico are at and remind them or their form for this, pretending to be elbowed AGAIN, just puts his head into Millie's arm there and never an elbow

[teesred]

Simeone is a full turd. What an awful little shit he is.

[miller0863]

How is Tsimikas not getting a game???

[CCTV]

Robbo with a poor turnover

[justme]

really hate how these fuck behave

[TheDOC1979]

Robbo with a poor turnover

He’s just poor. Let’s be real here.

[TheDOC1979]

Come on Ox. Score a screamer please

[Nineteenx]

Jota on for Mane, Oxlade on for Millie who was booked harshly and incorrectly through some appalling gamesmanship any official taking charge of a game involving Atletico should be incredibly aware of

Come the fuck on Liverpool, get settled with the new players on now, get control, keep the intensity and press and get yourselves ahead here now

[Crimson Dynasty]

How is Tsimikas not getting a game???

A million times THIS!

[CCTV]

Klopp ringing the changes..

Jota on for Mane
Ox on for Milner

Now switch it up

Fabinho Hendo
Ox Bobby Jota
.....Salah

[justme]

Trent gets booked for kicking the ball away. it was never an handball to begin with.. clearly off his waist

[TheDOC1979]

Trent gets booked for kicking the ball away. it was never an handball to begin with.. clearly off his waist

It was. Second angle came off his hand

[southernboy]

We’ve absolutely lost the plot here. Not sure if it’s a bad pitch, but we don’t seem to be able to complete two passes. The substitutions seem a bit odd. Milner I can understand, but Mané when you need a goal?

[CCTV]

Trent sloppily turns it over

[Nineteenx]

The ridiculous thing about what's currently happening in the game from a gamesmanship point of view is, there's been a UEFA directive we've seen employed in the Premier League to stop blowing up for players going down as easily as Atletico have been and on cutting out the gamesmanship by waving playing on

Corner here. come the FUCK on Virgil, make up for your nap earlier here now

[3underpar]

He’s just poor. Let’s be real here.

Bit harsh, it’s not like he was a cheap transfer from Hull or something.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Geez, Trent!

Sloppy.

[Nineteenx]

Great chance to counter there, Bobby woefully overhits an pretty easy ball to put Mo one on one with Oblak

Need to STOP trying to play everything down our right, that's the mistake we made in the first leg in 19-20, need to look to release Robbo a little more in positions to put one across behind their backline that if no-one gets on the end of, at least come to Mo far side one v one as it's probably our best way to get Mo 1v1

Come the FUCK on Liverpool, get yourselves a third goal here now

[Crimson Dynasty]

Well, we all know how great we are at breaking down ten-man teams that have had a player sent off.

And these aren't even at Chelsea's level.

[CCTV]

Penalty to us

Var pending

[Insidious]

Pen.

[3underpar]

Pen baby! Shove in the back and tripped him

[Nineteenx]

Penalty, hopeful punt forward by Trent, Jota's trying to get onto, their lad just takes him out

Come the FUCK on Mo, bury this

[Nineteenx]

And these aren't even at Chelsea's level.

They're the masters at parking the bus

[CCTV]

Salah scores 2-3

[TheDOC1979]

Salah scores. Now let’s win this ffs

[3underpar]

Fuck them 2-3

Great pen Mo

[justme]

Clear as day penalty and well put away by Salah

[teesred]

Get in. Let's hold on now please.

[Nineteenx]

Booooooooooooooooooooooooom get the fucking FUCK in 3-2 Salaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

Come the fuck on now Liverpool, keep the fucking intensity, keep pressing, keep the ball, make these fuckers run, and do not sit off and sit back as you suck at it

Come the fuck on Liverpool, nick yourselves a fourth goal here now

[Steveo]

Hold on now v 10 - where is that midfield? Let’s see it

[3underpar]

A wave of subs coming in including Luis

[southernboy]

When the ball was lobbed back into the box, I said what the fuck was that? Shows what I know!

Please now guys, let’s hold on to this, because we are really good at managing the game!

[TheDOC1979]

Ffs

[CCTV]

No way a penalty to Atletico

Var surely checking.....

[3underpar]

And here comes the bullshit

[Insidious]

Jesus Jota.

[southernboy]

We cannot fucking defend.

[teesred]

Fucks sake man.

[Nineteenx]

Hold on now v 10 - where is that midfield? Let’s see it

the midfield that was getting outnumbered 5v3 all first half?

Jota gives away a ridiculous pen, it's a dive for me all day long, in the Prem that would never be given, nothing like enough contact for their player to go down as he did

[TheDOC1979]

Jota is a dumb cunt. There, I said it

[CCTV]

Refs having a look

[3underpar]

Jota is dumb as fuck sometimes

[3underpar]

Very lucky

[southernboy]

It’s soft. That much is true.

[CCTV]

He went down like a sack off spuds, whereas Jota was taken out ;)

No penalty

[Crimson Dynasty]

That was stupidly clumsy by Jota, but I hate these diving cunts.

Why give them the chance?

[Insidious]

The STONES on that ref!

[Nineteenx]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ref changes his mind and rules it out :D :D :D

Come the FUCK on Liverpool, get the ball, keep the ball, support the ball, keep the intensity, leave Mo up, nick yourselves a 4th on the counter here now

[CCTV]

Gomez on for Trent, great to see Gomez playing again

[Nineteenx]

The STONES on that ref!

BALLLS of steel

[TheDOC1979]

Gomez on for Trent, great to see Gomez playing again

Not in this game against these lot

[Crimson Dynasty]

It was a dive, clear as day, but you never know with these European refs., and diving is an art form in Spain.

Jota should thank his lucky stars.

[teesred]

Wow. I'm amazed he overturned that.

[Insidious]

BALLLS of steel

I think Griezmann was polishing one of them when he celebrated earlier.

[Crimson Dynasty]

The STONES on that ref!

What's John Stones doing to the ref now?

Leave the man alone!
He's just trying to do his job.

[Artisan]

Nooooo i turned it off in frustration...can't bear to watch....

[TheDOC1979]

Fabinho no awareness with Salah’s movement. Could’ve easily played him through

[teesred]

It's been a poor show from us, second half has been awful. Our passing has been way off.

[Nineteenx]

Come the FUCK on Liverpool, KEEP the fucking ball, work really fucking hard to support it, keep the intensity, if when keeping the ball an opportunity arises to release a player to score a fourth, nick a fourth

[HLOGI]

Good cameo from Ox

[HLOGI]

The ref has been poor and allowed Atleti to con him. It actually worked against them as Hermoso thought o well we getting away with everything.

[Crimson Dynasty]

6 minutes added.

Plenty of time for several syncrounized diving routines and pantomime plays.

[Nineteenx]

Fabinho no awareness

There wasn't really any need to continue past that part ;)

Need to look at how many times Atletico got a 5v3 against our midfield in this game in the preparations for the second game and make sure that doesn't happen again

Let's just get this fecking game won first and foremost, Fab gifts them a glorious opportunity getting megged

Come the fuck on Liverpool, KEEP the fucking ball and the intensity, work really fucking hard to support the ball

[Insidious]

We need to work on our game management, bloody Hell, my heart!

[southernboy]

It's been a poor show from us, second half has been awful. Our passing has been way off.

Yup. Alisson the best player on the pitch. We stopped playing football after 10 minutes.

[CCTV]

Mike Tyson booked by the ref now

[3underpar]

Suarez is and always will be a cunt. For a while he was our cunt at least.

[3underpar]

Get in, piss off Simeone

[Daffydd]

5 points clear at the top of the table, not bad.

[Insidious]

What a massive win.

[TheDOC1979]

Suarez is and always will be a cunt. For a while he was our cunt at least.

He wants to win. I loved that fire in him

[HLOGI]

Atleti what utter scoundrels. A good win well done boys.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Neco Williams had the spotlights and the stars in his eyes for a moment there.

[Insidious]

Get in, piss off Simeone

Fingers crossed Porto can manage to qualify with us.

They are so devious, Atleti.

[CCTV]

Great result, not so hot performwnce

[Steveo]

Get the foooook iiiiin

Up yours Simeone

[justme]

what an horrible team. sickening how they behave.

[TheDOC1979]

Very very lucky today. Play shit and win, I’ll take it.

[redman99]

Get those points and get home! Smash and grab at the end!

[Crimson Dynasty]

I'll take them (wins) any way I can get them.
Ugly or not.

Not our best work, but it'll do.

[LEGS]

Great win that is all that matters.

How the f*ck can McManaman and Walton day it was a pen never in a million years.

Its never gonna be easy amd so it proved.

[southernboy]

Well, thank fuck for that. I think we’ll be hearing a lot from Klopp and Simeone in the next 24 hours. Lots of bad feeling on the touchline.

Group of death my arse.

[Insidious]

Very very lucky today. Play shit and win, I’ll take it.

Fergie's United side for years.

Wins like tonight are so satisfying - afterwards. Bloody shattered now :lol:

[Crimson Dynasty]

Very very lucky today. Play shit and win, I’ll take it.

More like 'very very luck to have Allison in our team'.

He kept us in it long enough for the cunts to do themselves in with their shithouse stunts.


Unquestionably MOTM for us.

[teesred]

Simeone is a piece of shit. He'd have shook hands had he won.

[redebreck]

We often struggle against ten men, which I find strange
Griezman's foot high on Bobby was almost identical to Sadio's red against Jizzfest's keeper. Nailed on red card, for me.

[teesred]

Great win that is all that matters.

How the f*ck can McManaman and Walton day it was a pen never in a million years.

Its never gonna be easy amd so it proved.

Disagreed with the red card too. It was a red all day.

[Nineteenx]

FT 3-2 Up the bum job done. a comprehensive bumming administered, Alisson MOTM, not our best display by any stretch of the imagination, we can pick fault with some of what the players did or didn't do at times, some of it was sloppy, or too casual, but honestly, I think Simeone got the better of Jurgen with his tactics for the majority of that game

They constantly got 5v3 against our midfield following one of our attacks breaking down and Jurgen never got a handle on it or managed to stop it and it was happening because Mane and Salah were both central when most of our attacks broke down, so when their wing backs quickly pushed forwards, no-one was going with them, and there was good variation of movement from their wingbacks in that too, they weren't constantly looking to spring down the line, sometimes it was central with one of their midfielders assuming the wide position to be there quicker - That and the 2 games in 19-20 are definitely ones Jurgen and his staff need to suffer studying, as tactics wise, Simeone has done him the last 3 meetings

As ever, all the focus on the next game, administering a bumming, getting the win and another absolutely vital 3 points

[TheDOC1979]

We often struggle against ten men, which I find strange
Griezman's foot high on Bobby was almost identical to Sadio's red against Jizzfest's keeper. Nailed on red card, for me.

The high foot was, but I think Sadio's foul on Ederson was when he was on his own with the keeper going for the ball. Both harsh if you ask me. Had they had 11 men, we might not be coming away with all three points. As CD says, lucky to have Allison in our ranks

[miller0863]

Wow, what a tense game.

We were not great but had balls of steel to come through that. Not bigger than the Ref’s balls mind, who got all 3 of the main decisions absolutely spot on.

Motm joint between Alisson and the ref

[Crimson Dynasty]

What a sore cunt loser!
Just like his Cunt loser team.

I just seen the snub of Klopp's handshake offer.


Let's bum these thugs when they come to Anfield.
I hate these shithouses along with their bellend of a manager.

[faridtoxteth]

What a shithouse team. Wouldn't want to play against them every week. Ironically they do have some very technically gifted players but they are so focused on gamesmanship, diving, surrounding the ref etc that they don't really have a period of really playing to their best.
Imagine playing that lot in a one off final. They are even worse than Real in my opinion.
And we've always known what a c u next Tuesday Simeone is, since he got Beckham sent off for nothing in the world cup.

[vin]

Probably the best way to beat these.

Scrappy, played shit, arguably didn't deserve it. They have a peno over turned

[Insidious]

We often struggle against ten men, which I find strange

Well, against a full side you might have a team penned in, someone is usually positioned for an outball, versus a situation where everyone is committing to giving an extra 10% each and giving everything to defensive actions rather than letting their minds drift to the counter.

I think it's relatively normal to struggle to break a side down in those circumstances, though certain sides that are used to monopolising possession and having super technical players often find a way. Our..."DNA"....if you will is still geared towards counters and counter-press situations creating opportunities, whereas I'd generally fancy a side like Pep's City to "pick a lock" more than us.

[Joetan991]

This is why I do not like Spanish teams, full of divers.

3 points, no one get injured ( Maybe ) job done.

[Nineteenx]

What a sore cunt loser!
Just like his Cunt loser team.

I just seen the snub of Klopp's handshake offer.


Let's bum these thugs when they come to Anfield.

Plenty of work for the video analysis team and Jurgen to do for that to happen, Simeone's done Jurgen tactically the last 3 meetings, other sides try to copy it, but they don't have players of as high a quality as Atletico and as organised at playing to the tactics Simeone employs and unfortunately, the strengths of the tactics and tweaks of tactics Simeone likes to employ are the best to use against our strengths, but you have to be as practices at them with as much quality in your side to pull them off, you can't just try playing that way as a one off v us, you've got to be really fucking good at and practiced at it

[miller0863]

Yep. The sending off obviously changed the game, not just any player sent off, their best player and biggest goal threat.
Horrible cnut as he is, Simeone is an excellent tactician and he had us on the ropes (again) before the sending off.

[Daffydd]

I'd love to see Atletico v Man Utd in the Europa League

[miller0863]

Hahahaha players in swimming trunks and the officials with headphones in.

[fiordearg]

A disjointed performance but midfield was critically poor. Keita is a liability. Still 9 points in pole position now

[LFC vs PFC]

Fuck me, I hope they get fogs abuse for the whole game when they come over here from the crowd. Booing from start to finish. 🎵 Simeone is a cunt flap 🎵 for the whole match, and a massive fuckoff smirk from Klopp from our first goal to the final whistle.

[LEGS]

Plenty of work for the video analysis team and Jurgen to do for that to happen, Simeone's done Jurgen tactically the last 3 meetings, other sides try to copy it, but they don't have players of as high a quality as Atletico and as organised at playing to the tactics Simeone employs and unfortunately, the strengths of the tactics and tweaks of tactics Simeone likes to employ are the best to use against our strengths, but you have to be as practices at them with as much quality in your side to pull them off, you can't just try playing that way as a one off v us, you've got to be really fucking good at and practiced at it

He hasnt done Klopp 3 times at all the game at Anfield was two errors by Adrian they got hammered at Anfield in reality.

BUT we didnt see it out that was our fault tonight they probably draw if that defender doesnt lose his head....thats the game.

All that matters is 9 points out of 9.

[justincredible]

Shabby but great win. Pole position in the group now and hopefully a positive performance and result in the reverse fixture against Atléti....

[Steveo]

He hasnt done Klopp 3 times at all the game at Anfield was two errors by Adrian they got hammered at Anfield in reality.

BUT we didnt see it out that was our fault tonight they probably draw if that defender doesnt lose his head....thats the game.

All that matters is 9 points out of 9.

We are struggling against anyone decent - even if they have only 10 men.

The points are great but it is still early season and our midfield is in tatters!

Keita scores a worldly and still gets deservedly hooked at HT he was that bad. Fab Comes in but it’s still Hendo and Milner. We need so much more

[Nineteenx]

Absolutely brilliant display from Big Bear Alisson tonight, truly world class

[LEGS]

We are struggling against anyone decent - even if they have only 10 men.

The points are great but it is still early season and our midfield is in tatters!

We are unbeaten that is all that matters.

Shock horror good teams cause other teams problems !

As I said before a ball is kicked we not win the league and CL is possible but you need some luck.

It dont matter if against 10 men the history books say we went away and won 3-2 no need to be negative

[Steveo]

The history books also say we got knocked out by Atleti dude.

Make your mind up.

We were top last Christmas. Plenty knew we were miles away from winning the title though.

Don’t get carried away just yet.

[miller0863]

Agree Legs at the end of the day, we came through a hell of a test tonight.
Same again Sunday, play shite and win is better than play well and lose.

[LEGS]

The history books also say we got knocked out by Atleti dude.

Make your mind up.

We were top last Christmas. Plenty knew we were miles away from winning the title though.

Don’t get carried away just yet.

Ive not denied it we did it happens.

We not win the league so im not getting carried away.

Last xmas was different it wasnt real footy for a start lets be right another thing I stated before a ball got kicked last year.

[ianlfc]

Absolutely brilliant display from Big Bear Alisson tonight, truly world class

Yep, plus (you may not agree) But the Fabulous one was top class when he came on.

[Steveo]

Ive not denied it we did it happens.

We not win the league so im not getting carried away.

Last xmas was different it wasnt real footy for a start lets be right another thing I stated before a ball got kicked last year.

I get all that and am just saying what is also plain to see despite the super fan - don’t mention the war BS some want to dictate.

We are struggling in the middle of the park. Virgil was a mess tonight with no cover. Allison bailed us plenty tonight . or did I imagine it? Can’t it be said because we won?

Play a Watford or a Porto and it ain’t a problem but anyone decent and we look short. That should have been something the club knew about in August.

[Steveo]

Curtis Jones cannot come back fast enough and I am counting the days until Elliott is fit. I see it as that alarming.

[Insidious]

Absolutely brilliant display from Big Bear Alisson tonight, truly world class

He's insanely good.

So many times tonight I said to my Dad "what does Mignolet do there?" and it really brings it Home - particularly the sweeper keeper moments.

[ianlfc]

Curtis Jones cannot come back fast enough and I am counting the days until Elliott is fit. I see it as that alarming.

You're a awful worrier Stevo.

[Steveo]

He's insanely good.

So many times tonight I said to my Dad "what does Mignolet do there?" and it really brings it Home - particularly the sweeper keeper moments.



Yep only issue with it is - whoever steps in at that level, is most likely going to cost us. We are playing with a back 5 in effect. That’s because we have no midfield.

[Steveo]

You're a awful worrier Stevo.


I am fucking warrior (.with an ‘a’)if you must know - but yes I do worry where my club is concerned.

[Nineteenx]

I get all that and am just saying what is also plain to see despite the super fan - don’t mention the war BS some want to dictate.

We are struggling in the middle of the park. Virgil was a mess tonight with no cover. Allison bailed us plenty tonight . or did I imagine it? Can’t it be said because we won?

Play a Watford or a Porto and it ain’t a problem but anyone decent and we look short. That should have been something the club knew about in August.

Virgil had a poor game by his standards, he got caught stepping up to allow Greizzman to run in behind from in his own half from a ball played from deep - Absolutely FUCK ALL to do with our midfield

After Kieta's ipoor attempt at a tackle diving in on our right, that situations was under control, Matip was exactly where he needed to be, Hendo was where he needed to be, Virgil's job, with 2 defenders, Virgil and Robbo v one attacker, was to pick up Greizzman, there was only one possible ball on, making it easy to read, Virgil went to sleep completely, again that goal was all about Virgil's own poor game and lapse, and again FUCK all to do with midfield, well under control even after Kieta's inaction

Only you can blame the midfield for those 2 errors/lapses by Virgil when both were Virgil's serious lapses or errors that led to Big Bear having to make a great save and Greizzman scoring and unquestionably Virgil's responsibility

[Steveo]

Because only I can see :D

[Steveo]

And Virgil’s errors are on him BUT he was out nearly a year don’t forget and he had far more protection before with Gini.

Don’t go excusing Hendo either. He has been below average for a while now.

Just thank the lord for Salah and Alisson

[Insidious]

Yep only issue with it is - whoever steps in at that level, is most likely going to cost us. We are playing with a back 5 in effect. That’s because we have no midfield.

I think it's a few issues stacking up, not unlike when multiple injuries last season caused real damage to the cohesion and chemistry of the side, which we are quite reliant on - Klopp loves to pick as much of the same XI as he can.

In midfield tonight we have a great player who is probably getting a fraction too much game time given his age/lack of pace in Milner, with Henderson a good bit below his best right now and an attack-minded Keita far from being excellent when people drive at him with the ball.

So there's a lot to deal with, but that gets compounded by a couple of misunderstandings between Matip and Van Dijk with the offside trap, PLUS Van Dijk still working his way back towards his best, which he can certainly be forgiven for.

So that's effectively 5 different "problems" we have simultaneously. The main thing for me is to sort one of them out, then hopefully another and another. As long as we aren't carrying multiple problems simultaneously for a prolonged period, I wouldn't be (too) stressed, though we should of course be conscious of it.

A shame we couldn't have played a bit more keep-ball at 2-0 up and got to half-time. Should also cut ourselves a touch of slack and concede that João Felix and Griezmann aren't easy adversaries and that we were away from Home.

7 away matches in a row now where we have scored 3 or more. It disguises a few flaws for sure, but we're a pretty damn good side. Hopefully Jones and/or Thiago back soon to help freshen up the midfield.

[miller0863]

Indeed, it’s why you need at least a couple of absolute Superstars if you’re going to win things.

[Steveo]

I think it's a few issues stacking up, not unlike when multiple injuries last season caused real damage to the cohesion and chemistry of the side, which we are quite reliant on - Klopp loves to pick as much of the same XI as he can.

In midfield tonight we have a great player who is probably getting a fraction too much game time given his age/lack of pace in Milner, with Henderson a good bit below his best right now and an attack-minded Keita far from being excellent when people drive at him with the ball.

So there's a lot to deal with, but that gets compounded by a couple of misunderstandings between Matip and Van Dijk with the offside trap, PLUS Van Dijk still working his way back towards his best, which he can certainly be forgiven for.

So that's effectively 5 different "problems" we have simultaneously. The main thing for me is to sort one of them out, then hopefully another and another. As long as we aren't carrying multiple problems simultaneously for a prolonged period, I wouldn't be (too) stressed, though we should of course be conscious of it.

A shame we couldn't have played a bit more keep-ball at 2-0 up and got to half-time. Should also cut ourselves a touch of slack and concede that João Felix and Griezmann aren't easy adversaries and that we were away from Home.

7 away matches in a row now where we have scored 3 or more. It disguises a few flaws for sure, but we're a pretty damn good side. Hopefully Jones and/or Thiago back soon to help freshen up the midfield.

Quite right Sid - and I am being very picky. I am being greedy. Just think it’s a shame because with proper business this summer and at least one quality addition to that midfield (much needed IMO) we are on another level still.

[Insidious]

Quite right Sid - and I am being very picky. I am being greedy.

It's fan Nature. If we won the League by winning every match 2-0 and went into the next season winning 10 matches in a row 2-0, part of us would be grumbling going into the 11th game that we hadn't won 3-0 in ages.

Or "Salah doesn't score enough headers". Or "how come none of our stars can beat Millie on the lactic acid test?" :lol:

If anyone can iron out the "critical non-essentials" that we didn't quite get right, it's our Manager. He'll always do frustrating things like generally not rotating as much as I'd like or making subs later than "Rafa time" (62nd-67th minute) but he's as close to a perfect Manager as we'll ever get, so just enjoy it.

If (when he is done with us) he needs a year away from Football but still has love for us, I'd honestly hope we tried to offer him a year's paid leave on the condition that he is coming straight back to us on a good length deal with Lijnders or whoever covering for a season, rather than see him manage Bayern Munich or whoever. Thankfully not a problem for right now.

[Nineteenx]

And Virgil’s errors are on him BUT he was out nearly a year don’t forget and he had far more protection before with Gini.

Don’t go excusing Hendo either. He has been below average for a while now.

Excusing him for what, his passing has been below the levels he set, he has been keeping it moving pretty well and changing the direction of our play pretty well, as he's our most effective passer, him being below his best in that respect isn't helpful I'll admit.

I do not see him having been below par in his positioning in the press, in his recognising of where the danger is and who he needs to pick up and in always scanning and picking up runners from deep, he has been below his standards with the ball, accepted, but not without the ball. No player is without fault and believe me if Hendo was charging into situations 2 of our other players were already on top of leaving a runner, or his player and an area wide open and actually creating an easy outball and option for the player our 2 others had otherwise boxed in with a good press, I'd call him out for it immediately, but he isn't doing that, he's doing the side of the game without the ball, reading it, positionally and decision making as well as he ever did, he is perhaps a little slower than he was 2 seasons ago, but that's age

[LEGS]

I get all that and am just saying what is also plain to see despite the super fan - don’t mention the war BS some want to dictate.

We are struggling in the middle of the park. Virgil was a mess tonight with no cover. Allison bailed us plenty tonight . or did I imagine it? Can’t it be said because we won?

Play a Watford or a Porto and it ain’t a problem but anyone decent and we look short. That should have been something the club knew about in August.

Its not about being a super fan I have eyes as well we have been open all season.

I dont know why that is its possibly tactical to get an extra player forward....last season people moaned we couldnt score or create this season that isnt a problem.

You mentioned we were top at xmas which is true after a good start but we also lost our 3 CBs as well and nobody in this league recovers from that.

Van Djik was poor tonight I wouldnt have played him but im not Klopp so I cant make that choice.

I agree we could have done with another CM in the summer again not anything any of us can do about it.

As things stand we are doing well but that means nothing in October.

[jozza800]

Its not about being a super fan I have eyes as well we have been open all season.

I dont know why that is its possibly tactical to get an extra player forward....last season people moaned we couldnt score or create this season that isnt a problem.

You mentioned we were top at xmas which is true after a good start but we also lost our 3 CBs as well and nobody in this league recovers from that.

Van Djik was poor tonight I wouldnt have played him but im not Klopp so I cant make that choice.

I agree we could have done with another CM in the summer again not anything any of us can do about it.

As things stand we are doing well but that means nothing in October.

Absolutely cock on!

It's almost as if last season's missing defenders had nothing to do with the struggles we had... There were a lot of fans that were worried that we were totally burnt out and that this season would follow the same as last. Whilst not firing on all cylinders yet, we look hungry, full of energy and look like scoring goals again.

This team is phenomenal. And i'm not sure it gets the recognition it truely deserves.

[Insidious]

This team is phenomenal. And i'm not sure it gets the recognition it truely deserves.

Last lost a Premier League game on the 7th of March.

Have won 3/3 in Europe this season.

5/8 in the League this season, drawing the other 3. Much as I don't like to clutch at ifs/buts/maybes too much, we were also a missed sitter away from being 4-2 up against Brentford and City's equaliser took a deflection, so we have surrendered points rather than failing to be in a position to get them by being too far behind in losing positions.

This is, as often seems the case, with us seeing lots of room for little bits of improvement. If we sort out an issue or two then we're in a seriously strong spot. Not that we aren't already.

I think the unrelenting consistency of City winning so much muddies the waters - and I think(?) we still have (just about) more points than them (total) over the last 3 seasons, which is wild.

[Steveo]

This team has some phenomenal players and has achieved phenomenal results - However , judging by our games against top quality opposition, this season and last - even Brentford levels - we are not phenomenal just yet.

Let’s not forget the drubbing we got without any missing CB’s last term at Villa. Always good to keep a balance on things.

Salah and Alisson are playing out of this world and it gets you big wins over mortal teams but against the best it looks a tall order.

[skyebo]

This team has some phenomenal players and has achieved phenomenal results - However , judging by our games against top quality opposition, this season and last - even Brentford levels - we are not phenomenal just yet.

Let’s not forget the drubbing we got without any missing CB’s last term at Villa. Always good to keep a balance on things.

Salah and Alisson are playing out of this world and it gets you big wins over mortal teams but against the best it looks a tall order.

3 of those Villa goals came from wicked deflections which players can do very little about. Also how many times does a team concede so many deflections in one game?. It was a freak result which all teams suffer once in a while. I was more concerned with the 3 we conceded at Brentford this season and the two last night.

[jozza800]

Last lost a Premier League game on the 7th of March.

Have won 3/3 in Europe this season.

5/8 in the League this season, drawing the other 3. Much as I don't like to clutch at ifs/buts/maybes too much, we were also a missed sitter away from being 4-2 up against Brentford and City's equaliser took a deflection, so we have surrendered points rather than failing to be in a position to get them by being too far behind in losing positions.

This is, as often seems the case, with us seeing lots of room for little bits of improvement. If we sort out an issue or two then we're in a seriously strong spot. Not that we aren't already.

I think the unrelenting consistency of City winning so much muddies the waters - and I think(?) we still have (just about) more points than them (total) over the last 3 seasons, which is wild.

I would love to see a WDL results sequence for our games since we got beat 4-1 at Spurs back in 2017. Almost 4 years to the day! That game was the turning point. Since then we've been a machine.

Even last season we started like a machine and ended like one. Only the middle part of the season was a mess due to having zero defenders.

It's not luck. And you cant do this sort of thing having poor players. You cant do this with a few Suarezesque players carrying the rest for 4 years.

[LEGS]

This team has some phenomenal players and has achieved phenomenal results - However , judging by our games against top quality opposition, this season and last - even Brentford levels - we are not phenomenal just yet.

Let’s not forget the drubbing we got without any missing CB’s last term at Villa. Always good to keep a balance on things.

Salah and Alisson are playing out of this world and it gets you big wins over mortal teams but against the best it looks a tall order.

I'll counter that and say when we got hammered 7-2 in that week United lost 6-1 at home to Spurs and City lost 5-2 at home to Leicester.

Covid had a huge impact on teams especially ones whose players play all year and City got off to a slow start by their standards too.

You are right in those two are the stand outs this season and we are a very good team but every team has room to improve as well.

[jozza800]

For shits and giggles I had a quick look

Since losing 4-1 at Spurs in October 2017 we have lost (League and CL) -

2017/18 - 5 games for the remainder of that season (2 of which were a European Cup semi and Final)
2018/19 - 5 games total. Only 1 in the league!
2019/20 - 6 games total. Only 2 games in the league!
2020/21 - 11 games total. Which is a lot less than I thought it would be
2021/22 - 0 games.

So in exactly 4 years we have lost a grand total of 27 league and CL games. 15 league games in 4 years. We lost 14 games in the league in Owl's season in 2010/11.

Just think what it would have been with a few fit defenders last season...