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scientificred
28th November 2022, 10:39 PM
Let's start it here,
Redebreck requested it
What should we believe from our news sources?
Who is telling the truth?
Please Do not post links or verbosity without first yourself justifying their credence .
For example
For myself I trust sky news because I perceive their mission is to give some clarity in an uncertain world.

Daffydd
29th November 2022, 03:39 PM
How does Sky News differ from say the BBC?

In my adult life TV news has changed from serious, unbiased and factual(?) to tabloid style entertainment.

And they use subtle and not-so-subtle methods to steer you into what to think about what they show.

I used to watch Channel 4 News more because it was different from BBC/ITV but it has gone the same way.

It is always more interesting to see what the news is NOT reporting, and not asking questions about.

Martyboy
29th November 2022, 09:13 PM
https://totalityofevidence.com/mockingbird-media/

CCTV
30th November 2022, 04:24 AM
True news, might just be an oxymoron :D

True:
Consistent with fact or reality; not false or erroneous: synonym: real.
Not counterfeit; real or genuine: synonym: authentic.
Conforming to the characteristics or criteria of a group or type; typical

News:
Information about recent events or happenings, especially as reported by means of newspapers, websites, radio, television, and other forms of media.
A presentation of such information, as in a newspaper or on a newscast.
New information of any kind.

News by its nature is fresh, spun to match its target audience, and selectivity is a major issue.

Truth, requires laborious rigour, offends cohorts, and requires a consideration of totalities. Truth is elusive.

redebreck
30th November 2022, 02:56 PM
How about un-biased news?
much appreciated btw, thanks.
I've viewed quite a bit of stuff on the forum - e.g. covid-based stuff/vaccines, Russell Brand & others.
Be nice to see news that isn't "mainstream" and potentially "inaccurate".

Martyboy
1st December 2022, 06:40 PM
How about un-biased news?
much appreciated btw, thanks.
I've viewed quite a bit of stuff on the forum - e.g. covid-based stuff/vaccines, Russell Brand & others.
Be nice to see news that isn't "mainstream" and potentially "inaccurate".


US data(Some people in interviews have said maybe 1-5% of the truth,who knows?).....https://openvaers.com/covid-data

A must watch:....https://rumble.com/v1wac7i-world-premier-died-suddenly.html

Head of the W.H.O,he won't take it(one wonders why?).......https://www.bitchute.com/video/dDdGrliV87Vq/

At the time CEO of Pfizer hadn't either(again why?)...https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZRYT5TE73LMg/

Sport stars being affected or dying since the rollout(safe and effective?, utter bollocks!!).....https://www.bitchute.com/video/gleJSssZZqjP/

teesred
2nd December 2022, 12:54 AM
How does Sky News differ from say the BBC?

In my adult life TV news has changed from serious, unbiased and factual(?) to tabloid style entertainment.

And they use subtle and not-so-subtle methods to steer you into what to think about what they show.

I used to watch Channel 4 News more because it was different from BBC/ITV but it has gone the same way.

It is always more interesting to see what the news is NOT reporting, and not asking questions about.

A clear example of BBC bias in the last week.
Major news story around the Mone 29m she siphoned off the public purse via a dodgy ppe firm.
David Conn with stellar reporting has rumbled a major scam where millions have been pretty much stolen.
The BBC never ran it at all. It was massive and they never said a word. Somebody there has links to her or is protecting and its wrong. How could they not report that's? It's a huge story.

teesred
2nd December 2022, 12:57 AM
Novara media Double down news and Byline times are really good too.
People like Aaron Bastani, Marina Purkiss,Joleon Maughan, Jemma Forte and George Monbiot. All very good and impartial.

redebreck
2nd December 2022, 12:21 PM
Does Neil Oliver have any credence?

https://youtu.be/4Vsjf47Mgnk

ianlfc
2nd December 2022, 06:46 PM
Ron Bergundy speaks the truth.

scientificred
4th December 2022, 06:50 PM
Ron Bergundy speaks the truth.
Dear Ianlfc,
It would be good if yourself, and others, could offer some explanation, albeit short, as to why they personally think such and such a person bears any credibility.
It would add, going forward, to their own credibility as a good news source, or vice versa.

Martyboy
4th December 2022, 09:13 PM
Does Neil Oliver have any credence?

https://youtu.be/4Vsjf47Mgnk


The guy's bang on the button as far as I'm concerned....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuVl0pn_ko0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMlH7IbVpxc

ianlfc
4th December 2022, 09:57 PM
Dear Ianlfc,
It would be good if yourself, and others, could offer some explanation, albeit short, as to why they personally think such and such a person bears any credibility.
It would add, going forward, to their own credibility as a good news source, or vice versa.

Apart from that one time he upset the good people of San Diego, when he speaks you know it's the truth.

scientificred
4th December 2022, 10:04 PM
The guy's bang on the button as far as I'm concerned....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuVl0pn_ko0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMlH7IbVpxc
Why Marty boy?
Why do YOU recommend him?

scientificred
4th December 2022, 10:06 PM
Apart from that one time he upset the good people of San Diego, when he speaks you know it's the truth.
And you Ianlfc?
Why do you KNOW it's the truth?

redebreck
7th December 2022, 09:52 AM
Ian Hislop, editor of Private Eye. Every time I see him, he makes sense.

https://youtu.be/rUYQiQeBOSk

redebreck
8th December 2022, 01:01 PM
https://www.facebook.com/EvolvePolitics/videos/1547900382291006/

CCTV
17th December 2022, 03:00 PM
How about un-biased news?
much appreciated btw, thanks.
I've viewed quite a bit of stuff on the forum - e.g. covid-based stuff/vaccines, Russell Brand & others.
Be nice to see news that isn't "mainstream" and potentially "inaccurate".

Don't think you can get unbiased news on the grander scale. Best to think of consuming a load of biased news and then trying to assess it for yourself.

Way I see it there's a new paradigm in politics and as such news.

In brexit 70% tory plus 30% left voted for brexit and similarly opposite for remain. The left brexit voting group largely old school labour voters and corbyn aligned.
This has been dubbed the new right, anti-imperial left wingers joining up to a certain extent with better, or more deeply informed righties.
https://youtu.be/D3rhlXhvf-c
Jimmy Dore is like Russell brand but sticks the boot in a bit more.
For a better understanding of geopolitics I'd suggest the Duran who would be Trump aligned over all manner of dnc/rnc politics. Though they would have been favourable to Corbyn as an antiwar man, and an antiEU man do he failed to lead on the matter.
There's still a lot of snobbiness based on party politics so the mergers of new parties, like brexit and remain parties have been hampered.
In Italy, a far left & right coalition formed, but it fell due to the far left.
They are too cosy with centrism as it is majority left wing culture and they'd rather keep that trait than a more right wing culture which would produce a more equitable world in reality.
As HLOGI pointed to Meloni of Italys far right, shes acutely aware that to keep Italy Italian they need Africa to develop even faster than it already is developing.

In general, I think its best to pick a topic, or subject and examine it yourself. Listening to as many voices as possible. The kill whitey studies i discovered through Sam Harris for example, a man who i wouldnt agree with in the main.
When you do this, you can become more informed than those who sort of militantly back their position and dismiss criticism.
Then when you've done some work of this nature you can see how poor the quality of politics and news truly are.

A good example, I'd suggest is thegreennewdeal, where AOC etc talk about cows, cowfarts. Here's a typical article discussing cows.
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/5-reasons-cow-farts-matter-and-could-destroy-the-w/
You can see it has persuasive power.

Here's a video from Allen Savoury.
https://youtu.be/vpTHi7O66pI
I've followed this up and I'd suggest Savoury is the more credible take for sure.
For all the gas, cows lut out a hell of a lot of shit, and that shit is integral in developing top soil.
Presently cars aren't storing carbon in any manner similar to cows. Cows are a net positive as they keep adding to top soil, where the EU incentivised underproduction of food, and cattle through payments. We see top soil erode and dissipate.

Anyway if you read the article and look at that video, then explore some more, let me know what you think.

CCTV
17th December 2022, 03:04 PM
Savourys methods don't exclusively revolve around using cows, sheep are also used, as could any large herd pack of grass eaters.
Cows however are quite impressive with respect to how much grass they can eat.

It's a fascinating talk, and digging a little deeper it is incredible how it works with such ease.
The restoring wolves to yellow stone Park that's been documented, has had similar effects and for the same reason essentially.

Insidious
17th December 2022, 05:58 PM
And you Ianlfc?
Why do you KNOW it's the truth?

Well, he was the first to report that the Human Torch was rejected for a bank loan and that an arsonist had strangely-shaped feet. He also knew that milk was a bad choice in hot weather.

Martyboy
19th December 2022, 02:28 PM
Another pearler from Neil.....:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95K4phDex3U

redebreck
1st January 2023, 04:10 PM
P P E supplies:
Https://fb.watch/hNmPol-Etj/

Martyboy
3rd January 2023, 10:02 PM
This makes a lot of sense.....

https://off-guardian.org/2023/01/02/covid-19-a-global-financial-operation/

redebreck
6th January 2023, 12:52 AM
Government trying to stealthily implement anti-strike laws..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64182493

Martyboy
23rd January 2023, 04:22 AM
Neil really getting to the nub of the issue.....Hear him mention UN Agenda 2030,15 minute cities and the word 'Satanic' amongst others....He's clued up is our Neil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFTzdLLLOU