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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    As a quick example .

    Red Star Belgrade.

    Ask any Liverpool fan who witnessed them destroy us in both legs but especially at Anfield.

    The super Ďsocialistí (Yugoslavia was not behind the Iron curtain as many believe ) version of football created arguably the best club football team in Europe. They were miles ahead of anything in Spain or Italy or Britain or Germany twice in their history... but especially in the 70ís

    Red Star were epic - could dominate any side on the continent. Sadly though they did have a touch too much Socialism in their play. They didnít play the dark arts and ultimately missed out... But on a purists football level - one of the best sides seen - FAR superior to any Barcelona side
    Not really though.

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    When did Liverpool play them over 2 legs?

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    1973. Just checked. I thought you meant the team that had Panchev in it. Late 80s/early 90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggy81 View Post
    Not really though.
    Depends how much you know about the game

    Last edited by Steveo; 29th March 2020 at 01:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teesred View Post
    1973. Just checked. I thought you meant the team that had Panchev in it. Late 80s/early 90s.
    Yep - we hadnít lost at Anfield for a year or more. It was Red Star that changed our entire approach to European football. They were before the Dutch and they were better.

    The team they had much later in the 90ís was broken up - that Yugoslavia team that was banned from the Euroís - and were far and away the best in Europe too.

    No THE Yugoslav Social experiment worked too well - that is why I believe it was destroyed in a ball of flames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    As a quick example .

    Red Star Belgrade.

    Ask any Liverpool fan who witnessed them destroy us in both legs but especially at Anfield.

    The super Ďsocialistí (Yugoslavia was not behind the Iron curtain as many believe ) version of football created arguably the best club football team in Europe. They were miles ahead of anything in Spain or Italy or Britain or Germany twice in their history... but especially in the 70ís

    Red Star were epic - could dominate any side on the continent. Sadly though they did have a touch too much Socialism in their play. They didnít play the dark arts and ultimately missed out... But on a purists football level - one of the best sides seen - FAR superior to any Barcelona side
    That response surprises me, Steveo. Your argument seems to be that Socialist countries can produce excellent football too.

    Are you advocating pre-1992 Yugoslavia as a preferable country to live in to Great Britain because their distribution of wealth was fairer and did not take away from the quality of their football?

    Does that also imply that you don't take issue with my comments about Sky TV and that you would prefer for the government to restrict television companies from showing football to wider and wider audiences?
    Sir what is going on.. things is not going according to plan. u promiss early signing. noting happen. Man u 3 player now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post

    No THE Yugoslav Social experiment worked too well - that is why I believe it was destroyed in a ball of flames.
    Oh, yes you do. Strange the way people see the world so differently
    Sir what is going on.. things is not going according to plan. u promiss early signing. noting happen. Man u 3 player now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taksin View Post
    That response surprises me, Steveo. Your argument seems to be that Socialist countries can produce excellent football too.

    Are you advocating pre-1992 Yugoslavia as a preferable country to live in to Great Britain because their distribution of wealth was fairer and did not take away from the quality of their football?

    Does that also imply that you don't take issue with my comments about Sky TV and that you would prefer for the government to restrict television companies from showing football to wider and wider audiences?
    Pre 1990 - not 92 by then it was Chaos...! After the Berlin Wall came down - the Vultures were circling. The IMF wanted crippling repayments on TITOís massive loans.

    Most aspects of society were superior in Yugoslavia to the UK pre 1990.

    Similar choice in the shops to the UK (Yugoslavia was not behind the iron curtain - was non aligned) almost zero unemployment - extremely low crime rate - all families had paid for holidays and education was of a very high standard for ALL! All in all a real sense of community. Arts and science both flourished too.

    People didnít live like the rich do in the west BUT they had far more than most working class people did in the UK at that time in particular.

    Yugoslavia was one of the best counties in Europe - possibly only Scandinavia was better on average.

    Socialism works - but Capitalism is determined to stop it functioning for obvious reasons.

    Itís 2020 - Capitalism must die

    Below the view of someone who lived in both Socialist Yugoslavia and the new Croatia - the state so ďdesperateĒ for independence in the early 90ís.



    As for Sky - I am guilty - I pay the stupid money to watch it. I donít agree with paying to watch football on TV either but do it all the same.
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    Capitalism will never die though will it?
    Our world,society,media, everything is driven by it. A worldwide pandemic where post conditions are that everyone's economic and moral compass resets and we start appreciating what we should in life.
    But that wont happen. The likelihood is it'll will be worse than previous. It won't take long for people to forget this once life returns to normal and we are comfortable again.
    Socialism is a great idea but it will never work long term, the lord of the flies is human nature in a nutshell from its birth. Greed and hunger for power ensure that it socialism isnt a long term solution, it should be but it wont be.
    As a species we deserve this pandemic, we are the worst on earth. The only saving grace is that is seems to spare innocence (children) and maybe that's divine intervention because god knows what would be happe6in the world if it was taking them too.
    We've destroyed a wonderful planet, killed off countless animals,plants etc, continue to let children live in poverty, abuse them,hurt them and we wont stop after this. No matter what.

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    Agree with that tees but think there is a chance... Always a chance

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