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Thread: Coronavirus and the impact on football

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffydd View Post
    The rich are being treated differently.

    I've seen several interviews with NBA stars this week where they take a position for freedom and choice and privacy against the media (who maintain that 90% of the players are vaccinated)

    Don't know about racist but I've seen forcing the jab on someone who doesn't consent compared to rapist.
    I was just thankful to see someone in the public eye talking sense about the vaccines. And also refusing to take them for good reasons.

    Most other objectors are being smeared as antivaxxers or conspiracy theorists - a typical tactic of those in the grip of totalitarianism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffydd View Post
    The rich are being treated differently.

    I've seen several interviews with NBA stars this week where they take a position for freedom and choice and privacy against the media (who maintain that 90% of the players are vaccinated)

    Don't know about racist but I've seen forcing the jab on someone who doesn't consent compared to rapist.
    It's been a bizarre time...

    In the states, it appears that there is a similarly low level of younger black men taking the vax.

    The racist jibe wasn't too serious but I've seen it argued that due to the impacts of covid that not taking the jab is essentially racist as blacks/bames in the west are worst effected.

    Ergo a majority of PL players take the knee and are disproportionately putting bames at risk.

    It's a weird one, I'm not sure those offenders think they are saving lives. Whereas a lot of the madly pro-vax folk think they are going to save lives.
    The ethics of it are somewhat lost on them though. Nor the history of dehumanising folks as dirty in the not too distant past in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taksin View Post
    I was just thankful to see someone in the public eye talking sense about the vaccines. And also refusing to take them for good reasons.

    Most other objectors are being smeared as antivaxxers or conspiracy theorists - a typical tactic of those in the grip of totalitarianism
    Have you seen Malone and Weinsteins podcasts where they talk about the vax and how it is neurotoxic and seems to amass in bone marrow and the womb/ovaries.
    They speculated there could be an uptick in cancers in those areas of the body down the line. Any thoughts? You seem to have been in the trenches on the data.

    Took a double tap of Pfizer myself and not going to be taking a booster shot though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    Have you seen Malone and Weinsteins podcasts where they talk about the vax and how it is neurotoxic and seems to amass in bone marrow and the womb/ovaries.
    They speculated there could be an uptick in cancers in those areas of the body down the line. Any thoughts? You seem to have been in the trenches on the data.

    Took a double tap of Pfizer myself and not going to be taking a booster shot though.
    I’m in the same boat with a double dose of Pfizer. I’ve had brain fog and mild tinnitus since. Fatigue for about 3 weeks after second dose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggy81 View Post
    I’m in the same boat with a double dose of Pfizer. I’ve had brain fog and mild tinnitus since. Fatigue for about 3 weeks after second dose.
    Sorry to hear that, eggy

    Can I ask whether you have reported this to your doctor and whether they have done anything to help you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post

    In the states, it appears that there is a similarly low level of younger black men taking the vax.
    There has been a greater reluctance or resistance to taking the vaccine amongst blacks in the US but also here. The simplest reason for that seems to be they have good reason to mistrust the government and see this as being experimented on.

    It has thrown a spanner in the works of all the identity politics - the obsession with everyone getting vaccinated as some kind of government enforced virtue has clashed with the supposed government virtue of recognising the oppression of the black man. Black Lives Matter have recently been protesting as racist a black wonan being turned away from a restaurant for being unvaccinated in NYC. Now what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    Have you seen Malone and Weinsteins podcasts where they talk about the vax and how it is neurotoxic and seems to amass in bone marrow and the womb/ovaries.
    They speculated there could be an uptick in cancers in those areas of the body down the line. Any thoughts?
    Yes. My thoughts are that I am very concerned about long term damage from the vaccine and that the global pressure to vaccinate the entire population is criminal, evil and will probably come to be seen as the greatest public policy mistake in history.

    We should all be supporting the right of people to decline taking it, especially heathy young people such as athletes and most especially children who should not be exposed to unknown medical risks for no good reason - the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus for them. in addition, the science from Israel says that those who have had the virus are up to 13 times more protected than the vaccinated so that should put the breaks on the mandates (if anyone in governance was sane, which they clearly aren't).

    To make matters worse there are dire warnings about the future for the vaccinated from credible sources, including for example a Nobel prize wining virologist, which I am very worried about. I have reached a point of resignation on this as firstly I don't want to upset people who have been vaccinated - and that's most people I know - and secondly I am not qualified to know what is going to happen either way. I do know that no-one in government, the media, and even the scientific advisory groups has any clue about what the effects will be and so their mandates are clearly evil. The move towards boosters is inevitable now for a political class that is unable to face the truth on these matters and must be seen to have acted and that will make matters even worse.

    I would advise people to turn down 'boosters' for all kinds of reasons, including the fact that they are in themselves an admission that the vaccines do no vaccinate. But then I said I would be advising against taking these vaccines (and only these vaccines) at the outset and was called names, whatever they are these days - anti-science, antivax, conspiracy theorist. In reality I have let my patients make their own decisions - many of them are under pressure from friends, doctors and family to get the jab - and it has broken my heart in some cases that they weren't able to stand up to the pressure. The worst has been pregnant women.

    Anyway, my focus now is looking into what the vaccinated can do to treat themselves or protect themselves after having had the jab. People will only be interested in this if my prediction is correct - when the truth comes out in the wash there will be a great scandal about decisions taken by government and the suppression of information they have had to hand. I have good first hand info that they have been warned personally about widespread side-effects in conversations with leading relevant specialists in London, for example, and have admitted they know this is happening but are choosing not to publicise it.

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    Respect Taksin. Totally agree that the pressure applied to us all to take a vaccine that has been rushed through and is for many unwarranted is draconian and a huge step back. Also agree that the stigma associated with anyone who dares suggest taking the vaccine comes with risk - is a very dangerous precedent.

    I am scared shitless by the land grab that has taken place and that our so-called democracy is now little more than a media directive.

    It is like a movie in many respects but the only realistic sources of news/information for more than 90% of people is dominated by the same stigma. Nobody dare say what they think for fear of job loss or worse.


    How many doctors cannot speak candidly? How many more are being ignored?

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    Yes, mate, it has felt like a totalitarian dystopia to me since before the first lockdown. I think it's entering a critical phase now. they are destroying the economy for this - what is it exactly? - I came to the decision a few weeks ago that this no longer has anything to do with corona virus. Sorry if that is too out there as an idea, but it's what I believe.

    I'll post a video below of a discussion about 'mass formation' in totalitarian states. Well worth a view

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    https://youtu.be/uLDpZ8daIVM

    Can’t link from my phone. Professor Desmet is an expert in totalitarian formation - his experience in relation to the pandemic mirrors my own.
    His accent makes the interview a bit iunsmooth to begin with but it warms up into a fascinating conversation.

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