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    Quote Originally Posted by eggy81 View Post
    I’m in the same boat with a double dose of Pfizer. I’ve had brain fog and mild tinnitus since. Fatigue for about 3 weeks after second dose.
    Unlucky, a common enough side effect it seems. Think docs are prescribing a steroid for the tinnitus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taksin View Post
    There has been a greater reluctance or resistance to taking the vaccine amongst blacks in the US but also here. The simplest reason for that seems to be they have good reason to mistrust the government and see this as being experimented on.

    It has thrown a spanner in the works of all the identity politics - the obsession with everyone getting vaccinated as some kind of government enforced virtue has clashed with the supposed government virtue of recognising the oppression of the black man. Black Lives Matter have recently been protesting as racist a black wonan being turned away from a restaurant for being unvaccinated in NYC. Now what?
    Aye, a unification of some maga and blm folks around the vaccine passport's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taksin View Post
    Yes. My thoughts are that I am very concerned about long term damage from the vaccine and that the global pressure to vaccinate the entire population is criminal, evil and will probably come to be seen as the greatest public policy mistake in history.

    We should all be supporting the right of people to decline taking it, especially heathy young people such as athletes and most especially children who should not be exposed to unknown medical risks for no good reason - the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus for them. in addition, the science from Israel says that those who have had the virus are up to 13 times more protected than the vaccinated so that should put the breaks on the mandates (if anyone in governance was sane, which they clearly aren't).

    To make matters worse there are dire warnings about the future for the vaccinated from credible sources, including for example a Nobel prize wining virologist, which I am very worried about. I have reached a point of resignation on this as firstly I don't want to upset people who have been vaccinated - and that's most people I know - and secondly I am not qualified to know what is going to happen either way. I do know that no-one in government, the media, and even the scientific advisory groups has any clue about what the effects will be and so their mandates are clearly evil. The move towards boosters is inevitable now for a political class that is unable to face the truth on these matters and must be seen to have acted and that will make matters even worse.

    I would advise people to turn down 'boosters' for all kinds of reasons, including the fact that they are in themselves an admission that the vaccines do no vaccinate. But then I said I would be advising against taking these vaccines (and only these vaccines) at the outset and was called names, whatever they are these days - anti-science, antivax, conspiracy theorist. In reality I have let my patients make their own decisions - many of them are under pressure from friends, doctors and family to get the jab - and it has broken my heart in some cases that they weren't able to stand up to the pressure. The worst has been pregnant women.

    Anyway, my focus now is looking into what the vaccinated can do to treat themselves or protect themselves after having had the jab. People will only be interested in this if my prediction is correct - when the truth comes out in the wash there will be a great scandal about decisions taken by government and the suppression of information they have had to hand. I have good first hand info that they have been warned personally about widespread side-effects in conversations with leading relevant specialists in London, for example, and have admitted they know this is happening but are choosing not to publicise it.
    My outlook on the vaccine has me set to not take the booster. Agree it seems to have been oversold.
    Being positive, if the effectiveness of the vaccine wanes significantly then I'm hoping the active element or impact from the vaccine will also wane.
    I had no side effects and over the longer term I'm hoping that these neurotoxic impacts aren't too serious.

    I do wonder if we would have been better off letting not high risk folk go on as they do and let them build up natural immunity.

    The passports seem gross and there appears to be offshoots of existing drugs on fresh patents available now. So I really don't see the point of the passports.

    When I got my vaxxs it was shortly thereafter that the vaxx passport rules were introduced over here, which probably would have led me to decline the vaxxine.
    We've the highest vaxx level in the eu and not sure why we need the passports too.

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    Don't forget we're coming into the flu season. I'm inclined to take any statistics with a pinch of salt as there's bound to be some overlaps. imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taksin View Post
    https://youtu.be/uLDpZ8daIVM

    Can’t link from my phone. Professor Desmet is an expert in totalitarian formation - his experience in relation to the pandemic mirrors my own.
    His accent makes the interview a bit iunsmooth to begin with but it warms up into a fascinating conversation.
    Thanks Taksin. I've listened to a few of Dan Astin Gregory's pandemic podcasts, it's amazing how many times he has been banned from platforms for simply asking reasonable journalistic questions, rather than making claims about anything.

    Even if we assume that the vaccines are safe and effective, there is something unsavoury about the constant pressure and manipulation to get it, ongoing censorship, and media attacks on anyone who dares mention side effects.

    I saw an interview with Eric Clapton, after the vaccination left him unable to play guitar and he was subjected to personal abuse by some in the media. No doubt there is an agenda and it is political rather than healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffydd View Post
    Even if we assume that the vaccines are safe and effective, there is something unsavoury about the constant pressure and manipulation to get it, ongoing censorship, and media attacks on anyone who dares mention side effects.

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    If they were effective there would be no need to pressurise (or mandate) people to take them as people who took them would be protected and, at 70% coverage - plus everyone having been exposed to the virus anyway - would be far more than what’s needed to reach herd immunity.

    As they aren’t effective, why pressurise us? This argument just goes round and round in endless futile circles. No one answers it. No one listens. The abuse of the unvaccinated grows by the day.

    That’s why I believe the real mechanism at play is the othering of the unvaccinated to serve a totalitarian end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taksin View Post
    If they were effective there would be no need to pressurise (or mandate) people to take them as people who took them would be protected and, at 70% coverage - plus everyone having been exposed to the virus anyway - would be far more than what’s needed to reach herd immunity.

    As they aren’t effective, why pressurise us? This argument just goes round and round in endless futile circles. No one answers it. No one listens. The abuse of the unvaccinated grows by the day.

    That’s why I believe the real mechanism at play is the othering of the unvaccinated to serve a totalitarian end.
    It's more about politics (and money) than people's health, that's for sure.

    Premier of New South Wales, Gladys Berejiklian, stands accused of being directed by "lobbyists" who were paid $millions by Pfizer and AstraZeneca to push their vaccination policies. She has now resigned. I doubt she is the only politician in the world to be influenced by these shadowy figures.

    Chris Waddle has tweeted that unvaccinated players shouldn't be allowed to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffydd View Post
    It's more about politics (and money) than people's health, that's for sure.

    Premier of New South Wales, Gladys Berejiklian, stands accused of being directed by "lobbyists" who were paid $millions by Pfizer and AstraZeneca to push their vaccination policies. She has now resigned. I doubt she is the only politician in the world to be influenced by these shadowy figures.

    Chris Waddle has tweeted that unvaccinated players shouldn't be allowed to play.
    She was an absolute witch - was promising to cast the unvaccinated out of society. Absolute fascism.

    Chrissy Waddle is not alone in his dinwitted views. They are widely held. It’s like a disease that just sneaks up on you. Next it’s going to be the England players who don’t want it being refused the trip to Qatar. It’s being blamed on the conspiracy theory WAGs, as if the footballers are stupid.

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