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Thread: Summer transfer thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    Haa wankfest over Haaland.. The guy is a goal scorer. We dont hav a forward who scores goals You kinda want goals to win games..
    We may not play with an out and out forward. Thats our biggest problem. Theres nobody in the box when teams defend deep.
    Doesnt matter how good you are at passing the ball. you create fuck all against low blocks. Thats why you need a central striker to get in the box.
    Who is currently top premier league goalscorer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nineteenx View Post
    He is, he's a brilliant goalscorer, but it's real football, not fantasy manager, we don't create the kind of chances he thrives on, City or the filthy are a much better fit for how he plays, M'Bappe is the best fit for how we play
    Thats the point justme is making. We dont create the chances.
    Thats what needs to change. If we dont change the way we play then its the same problem as before. If someone like Ruiz ( not that weve been linked with him for more than a year now anyway ) comes in where does he fit and who is he replacing? Wijnaldum?
    The front 3 needs changing up without question but the set up behind also needs tweaking or changing to compliment it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dicko1969 View Post
    Who is currently top premier league goalscorer?
    Whats that gotta do with me wanting a centre forward??
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    Mpabbe is not the best fit for us. Hes not gonna get the room over the top to run into.I have my doubts about him being technically good enough on the floor..
    when we play with 2 inside forwards.they still dont play central. Often theres no one in that position...When we play against low blocks..we over play way to often. everything is condensed down the centre of pitch. the left us have it wide. because we cant turn them around down the sides. and if we did manage to do that. We have no centre forward.. so we over play again.
    If you got the ball in the box more often. It gives your forward and chance to challenge and it gives your midfielders chance to get the second ball.. The problems with Firmino hes often to deep..so our midfielders are even deeper behind him.
    I would prefer a proper 4/3/3 . a strong back 5/6 with Fabinho and Henderson and maybe Jota. then a front 3 with a main striker.
    Obviously the players we purchase have to be the best of the best.. or its pointless anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dicko1969 View Post
    How many new contracts with bumper increased salaries.... ?
    Quote Originally Posted by dicko1969 View Post
    In the past 3 years
    Salaries increases by £50m
    Salaries increase if players are a success and the club wins things. If the net result of winning is that we cannot strengthen then we have no long term future at the top.

    This is precisely what I said would be the case with FSG before we had won anything.

    Said I thought Klopp was capable of winning big prizes with almost any half decent squad but that his ambition would not be matched by the Americans.

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    @dicko

    For the record since May 2019 and winning number 6 these are the senior player in and outs.

    Outgoing

    Danny Ings
    Adam Lallana
    Dejan Lovren
    Daniel Sturridge

    Incoming

    Jota
    Thiago


    Do you think this is good enough? All the regulars will be 2 years older come May 2021 and this is the sub total of business. This is striking while you are ahead...?

    When players like Sturridge and Lallana are unfit or unable to play - you REPLACE them straight away - you don’t wait nigh on 2 years! If Origi isn’t in the managers thinking - at all EVER - replace him. Now the front 3 who have carried us for long periods are broken as a result.

    These guys are not up to the job - they have shown it - last summer with far too litttle far too late and especially summer 2019. Not fit for the purpose of being what Liverpool FC has been in the past or what most of us want it to be in the future.

    They want the most from the least. Great way to balance books but bad for sustained success. Post Klopp we are nowhere with these.

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    £540m investment into FSG approved. Is that going to help us out or the Red Sox?

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    Doubt it will be making much difference to either franchise.

    What will likely happen is even less control for a manager like Klopp - who has already stated he cannot decide who or when we buy.

    This money is going into FSG - and their interests are:

    Boston Red Sox.
    NESN.
    Roush Fenway Racing.
    Fenway Sports Management.
    Liverpool F.C.
    Salem Red Sox.
    Last edited by Steveo; 17th March 2021 at 09:52 AM.

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    From the Boston Globe:

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/03/...re-more-teams/

    LeBron James as partner, approves deal to jump-start plan to acquire more teams
    By Michael Silverman Globe Staff,Updated March 16, 2021, 3:42 p.m.
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    Fenway Sports Group’s ambitious growth plans took a major step forward Tuesday with the addition of two new partners, one a New York-based investment firm and the other one of the best known names in professional sports.
    The parent company of the Red Sox and Liverpool Football Club approved a $750 million private investment that would make RedBird Capital Partners its third-largest partner, according to a source with knowledge of the deal. The partnership will infuse cash that can help launch FSG’s efforts to acquire more teams.
    The other new FSG partner needs no introduction: LeBron James.

    James, one of the most recognizable, influential, and richest athletes on the global stage, now owns an undisclosed amount of FSG shares after previously holding an approximately 2 percent share of the Liverpool soccer franchise since 2011.



    By becoming a partner in FSG, the Los Angeles Lakers star also will become a part-owner of the Red Sox as well as other FSG subsidiaries, including NESN, Roush Fenway Racing, and Fenway Sports Management.

    James’s potential to enhance the brand value of FSG properties is significant, and even more so given that RedBird’s investment will help give FSG the spending power it needs to expand its portfolio and begin adding to its list of properties.
    The deal is contingent on Major League Baseball’s approval, which could take several weeks, the source said.
    Also joining James as a new FSG partner is Maverick Carter, James’s longtime business partner and friend. Carter and James become the first Black partners in FSG’s history.

    On FSG’s shopping wish list are NFL and NBA franchises, another European soccer club, NHL, MLS, WNBA, and NWSL teams, plus sports betting, esports, and data analytics companies.
    The RedBird cash infusion will give the firm an 11 percent stake of FSG, which will have an enterprise value of approximately $7.35 billion. FSG will have $600 million-$700 million in debt, with more than $600 million cash going out to existing partners.


    FSG principal owner John Henry (who also owns the Boston Globe) will retain control of the Boston-based sports conglomerate, with governance remaining unchanged among FSG chairman Tom Werner and FSG president Michael Gordon. Werner’s FSG stake remains second-largest, while Gordon’s shares will drop to fourth.
    FSM, the consulting and marketing arm of FSG, has worked with James for more than a decade on assorted marketing and endorsement ventures.
    Much of the RedBird Capital Partners investment will be earmarked for FSM, the latest signal that James is about to play a more prominent role in FSG operations. In the fall of 2019, FSG successfully switched Liverpool’s uniform sponsorship to Nike after ending a long relationship with Boston-based New Balance shoe and apparel company.
    James is a Nike client and in 2015 inked a lifetime deal with the world’s leading shoe and sports apparel company believed to be in excess of $1 billion.
    In the past year, FSG received an undisclosed investment from one of its newer partners, the Dallas-based Arctos Sports Partners.
    According to the source, FSG views the RedBird investment as a first step in its pursuit of new acquisitions and partnerships.
    Forbes’s most recent valuation of FSG placed it at $6.6 billion, good for a fourth-place spot on the sports empire list, one spot ahead of the Yankees’ parent company ($6.4 billion). At that valuation, FSG was behind Jerry Jones’s holdings (Dallas Cowboys plus real estate, hospitality service, esports) worth $6.98 billion, Kroenke Sports & Entertainment ($8.73 billion), owner of the Los Angeles Rams, Arsenal FC (Premier League), Denver Nuggets, and Colorado Avalanche, and Liberty Media ($13 billion), owner of Formula 1, Atlanta Braves, and the Drone Racing League.

    FSG, then known as New England Sports Ventures, started with its $700 million purchase of the Red Sox in 2002. Forbes last valued the Red Sox at $3.3 billion.
    FSG’s second significant splash came in 2010, when it snatched up Liverpool for $493 million soon after a global recession had left its previous owners cash-strapped.
    KPMG recently valued Liverpool at $2.6 billion, which would mean James’s reported initial 2 percent investment of $6.5 million has grown to some $52 million.
    RedBird Capital is led by investor Gerry Cardinale.
    Last fall, Cardinale and Billy Beane, the Oakland A’s executive of “Moneyball” fame, launched RedBall Acquisition Corp., a special purpose acquisition company that seeks a company to invest in and take public, that reportedly had its eyes on a $1.5 billion investment in FSG that would have taken FSG public at a valuation worth more than $8 billion.
    The RedBall-FSG public-company gambit did not work out after FSG decided to remain a private company when the SPAC met price resistance from public investors.
    Still of the belief that they shared similar visions of growth opportunities in the sports industry, FSG and Cardinale, who also sits on the boards of both the Yankees’ parent company and their YES network, switched to a private tack that led to the current investment.
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    According to SEC filings last year, one of Fenway Sports Group’s limited partners, Seth Klarman, and his Baupost Group hedge fund recently invested $52 million in RedBall.

    Last July, Cardinale and RedBird purchased 85 percent of the French second-division Toulouse FC soccer team. Cardinale has spoken since of the multiple investment opportunities to be found in European soccer leagues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDOC1979 View Post
    £540m investment into FSG approved. Is that going to help us out or the Red Sox?
    Doubt much if any will be coming our way. I think uts FSG just trying to claw back what they have lost in the last year.

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