Firmino 20/21

[dicko1969]

The goals are Salah and Mane
Firmino is the hard work, creating the space, keeping the 2 CBs occupied and creating.

[Steveo]

We all know Bobby’s work rate is legendary - second to none, but he is not close his best from. Last night we win that game with or without him or Jota starting - there was zero input into any of the goals and Wolves were shocking second half.

Plenty of the points we have gained have come directly from Jota’s goals yet some are trying to marginalise his effect already. Doesn’t do Bobby any favours. He played a decent 6/7 last night in a side mainly full of 8/9’s.


Salah
1356min - 15 games 11 goals

Jota
880min. - 10 games 9 goals

Mané.
1275min - 14 games 5 goals

Bobby
1102min - 12 games 2 goals


Them’s the facts.

[CCTV]

Agree with that steveo
0 shots and 0 key passes circa in a decent performance

Salah
Gini
Matip (Goal)
Well Kelleher

The best in their departments

[Kev0909]

Bobby motm cus he megged some peps init

don't really agree with firmino taking players out the game so mane and salah are free

When most of the time they double up on them, and if anything firmino should be more free- see what happened with jota, 3 goals.

[HLOGI]

We all know Bobby’s work rate is legendary - second to none, but he is not close his best from. Last night we win that game with or without him or Jota starting - there was zero input into any of the goals and Wolves were shocking second half.

Plenty of the points we have gained have come directly from Jota’s goals yet some are trying to marginalise his effect already. Doesn’t do Bobby any favours. He played a decent 6/7 last night in a side mainly full of 8/9’s.


Salah
1356min - 15 games 11 goals

Jota
880min. - 10 games 9 goals

Mané.
1275min - 14 games 5 goals

Bobby
1102min - 12 games 2 goals


Them’s the facts.

Agree. Bobby worked hard but was toothless as a attacker. Immediately when Jota came on we looked even more dangerous.

[Steveo]

Agree. Bobby worked hard but was toothless as a attacker. Immediately when Jota came on we looked even more dangerous.

Absolutely.. see that instant pinpoint ball out to Salah? - who should have repaid it in the move for a simple goal - but shot instead.

For me the thing we need most is to get our main Mané back. If he clicks - we will destroy teams.

Feel like Mane, Salah and Jota through the middle - is too much for anyone right now. Obviously am desperate to see Bobby back to his best - he is phenomenal when on form - utterly unique and unplayable.

We have a fab 4! The beauty is if one is off form one other can slot in OR as I would like to see while Virgil is out - play all 4 with Bobby focussed on the link up he can be so wonderful at. But this Klopp geezer seems to know what he is doing...

[Nineteenx]

The facts are 'the best players (on paper) don't always make the best team'

We've been labouring, nowhere near our best for weeks, we play as many of our Champions league Premier league WCC and ESC winning side in their best positions and formation and hey presto a Liverpool performance

It's not rocket science

We're already a man light in the midfield area because injuries have dictated we can't play both full backs high, take Bobby out for Jota and we're 2 light in the midfield area, then the same numpties who don't seem to understand this are having a pop at our midfield

If you're going to present an argument at least present one that shows you have at least a semblance of a clue of what made us so formidable and facilitates our 'team' playing at its best

Note to Jurgen: Despite your winning ghe Champions league Premier league WCC and ESC with both full backs and Bobby supplementing our midfield, press and attack, Steveo no longer thinks it's necessary

[Steveo]

The facts are 'the best players (on paper) don't always make the best team'

We've been labouring, nowhere near our best for weeks, we play as many of our Champions league Premier league WCC and ESC winning side in their best positions and formation and hey presto a Liverpool performance

It's not rocket science

We're already a man light in the midfield area because injuries have dictated we can't play both full backs high, take Bobby out for Jota and we're 2 light in the midfield area, then the same numpties who don't seem to understand this are having a pop at our midfield

If you're going to present an argument at least present one that shows you have at least a semblance of a clue of what made us so formidable and facilitates our 'team' playing at its best

Note to Jurgen: Despite your winning ghe Champions league Premier league WCC and ESC with both full backs and Bobby supplementing our midfield, press and attack, Steveo no longer thinks it's necessary

Football was never rocket science I agree.

BUT 19 yet again you are wedded to something that simply isn’t true.

We were way below the same level in the CL last season playing the template you believe to be the only one that can ever work. This year despite no Virgil and half a team missing we qualified top - with a game to spare. And would have done so with 2 had we not played such a weakened team v Atalanta.

It doesn’t all boil down to one system and one way of playing mate. It really does not.

Steveo just knows his football on a far higher level to you fella - but recognises that perhaps the Kloppmeister might know a tiny bit more than both

[skyebo]

We can all play Football Manager, but we wouldn't have a clue in the real world.

[Steveo]

We can all play Football Manager, but we wouldn't have a clue in the real world.

Quite true. That’s why we spend our time on a forum and the professional’s get paid a fortune to make the real decisions - and this Klopp bloke seems not too bad at it.