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    Quote Originally Posted by Nineteenx View Post
    News breaking that Pfizer have a vaccine that all scientists say offer 90% protection against Covid could possibly be available by the beginning of next year. UK Gov said to have procured 40m doses pending certification
    Fantastic news - what are the chances this wasn't known a while ago.?

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    BioNTech + Pfizer. The news making the rounds here in Germany as well.
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    Next on the news, Vaccine has done fuck all as coronavirus has developed into covid 20 which is a different strain of the virus

    Last edited by Kev0909; 9th November 2020 at 06:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Fantastic news - what are the chances this wasn't known a while ago.?
    Waiting for a new president? Although Trump seems happy with the stock market after this news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevie harkness View Post
    Waiting for a new president? Although Trump seems happy with the stock market after this news.
    There is probably some truth to this.

    Prior to the election, the Pfizer CEO made a point that they did not want their vaccine politized or used by either side to try to distort the science or interfere with the important work that still had to be done.

    I can totally see a scenario whereby they had the information last week (or at least access to it), but then they made the deliberate choice to wait to release it AFTER the election.
    Imagine what Trump would have done with a news release like that going into the election.

    There's also the other fact that Pfizer were not part of the Trump administration's Project 'Warpspeed' (<=insert major eyeroll here) that's supposed to help facilitate the search for a vaccine, and as a result took no government funds to develop their vaccine. Which would also underline the notion that any credit that Trump or his administration tried to take for it (and will still try) would be totally undeserved.

    I mean, just look at how he's trying to take the credit for how the stock market is reacting to the news already - even though the markets (not just in the US, but all over the world) were already experiencing a major bump prior to the Pfizer announcement, in the aftermath of the elections getting called on Saturday and the news that he had lost.

    In other words, he's unironically and obliviously celebrating the fact that the Stock markets are (in part) reacting positively to the news that he was defeated.

    That man will never be accused of having an over-abundance of self-awareness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balinkay View Post
    BioNTech + Pfizer. The news making the rounds here in Germany as well.
    Yep - could well be pure coincidence BUT the day after the full election declaration..? I mean look at it this way - what chance they found out last night - even last week - and went public today..?

    Quote Originally Posted by stevie harkness View Post
    Waiting for a new president? Although Trump seems happy with the stock market after this news.
    Can't really say anything else, can he..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Yep - could well be pure coincidence BUT the day after the full election declaration..? I mean look at it this way - what chance they found out last night - even last week - and went public today..?

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    I'd say as close to 100% as you can possibly get.

    As recently as about 4 weeks ago, the Pfizer CEO had stated that they didn't want their vaccine trials and research politicized by either side and used for political purposes.

    So them holding back on the announcement until literally after the election was called would fall under the banner of avoiding just that.

    Just to be clear, I believe they would have made the announcement today either way regardless of how the election turned out.
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    I generally dislike big pharma but holding back news that if released earlier would almost certainly have seen Trump secure a second term is very fine work indeed
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    The injury list gets longer

    VVD unknown return
    Ox ... god knows
    TAA... 4 weeks or more
    Fabinho ... 2 weeks
    Thiago... unknown

    For 2 of those players really must have 5 subs asap.

    Also totally ridiculous that teams play in Europe then have the 12 o'clock ko.

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    @Steveo @CD

    Yup, that's how I see it too. Health should not be a political issue and the vaccine very much would have been, had they announced it earlier.
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