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    It could probably be levelled at every sport in every country in some shape or form I'd suspect. Either purposely or indirectly there might be influence but a widespread conspiracy against LFC is extreme to say the least for me.

    Its easy for some LFC fans to say "people said we got favoured in the 70s and 80s but we were just the best thats all". Utd can say that too, they were the best and possibly did get away with things here and there but it wouldn't have changed any trophies they won and if there was favour towards them it doesn't explain how they've been over the last 8 seasons.

    We are in a bad place right now and we all need to stop looking for excuses as its becoming tiresome. There are many factors why this season has gone the way it has but the most important is how we recover and learn from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    I can see both points of view 19 and am open to either being true

    Unlike tees perhaps - I do believe United were granted an abundance of what would be politely termed ‘soft decisions’ - especially at Old Trafford and especially under Ferguson. Plenty of ex pro’s and even some officials that have made that claim too.

    On the claim of match fixing - I am suggesting that IF there is a provable conspiracy then in theory we should challenge it - BUT that it would still likely end in tears as the entire fabric of British sport would be thrown into question. Doping the lot. Think it would go right to the top tbh - many powerful interests would likely quash any attempt.
    Clattenberg admitted as much in his book, straight from the horses fucking mouth, but Tees knows better than an official who was part of it

    And speaking of allowing things to be normalised 'Fergie time' I mean seriously, what the fuck, it is just accepted, universally, a side regularly being given additional time on top of additional time in their games when they were drawing to try and get a late late winner and additional pressure and stress the phenomenom of 'Fergie time' put on the side desperately trying to hold on to help facilitate those late goals happening

    I never accepted it, but as per my prior post, 99% of people, all the commentators and pundits, happily accepted that it was ok for this one team and manager to have additional time added at the end of so many of their games for them to try and score a winning goal, that other teams didn't get - Fucking morons as I said
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    Most people just don’t have the time 19.. they don’t have the time to look into everything.

    I wouldn’t just blame the people as a whole.

    They have families - kids to bring up, parents to look after, illnesses to cope with. Life gets in the way of so many things.

    As I have said many of your suspicions - which may seem outlandish to some IMO are well founded, I just think you might be taking them a little far.

    If you are totally correct then I am wrong in this but that is the way I see it now.

    I see that United have had huge ‘benefit of the doubt’ while we have seemingly had none. but I see other clubs getting bulldozed by VAR decisions too.


    I guess what I am saying is - I just don’t know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nineteenx View Post
    Clattenberg admitted as much in his book, straight from the horses fucking mouth, but Tees knows better than an official who was part of it

    And speaking of allowing things to be normalised 'Fergie time' I mean seriously, what the fuck, it is just accepted, universally, a side regularly being given additional time on top of additional time in their games when they were drawing to try and get a late late winner and additional pressure and stress the phenomenom of 'Fergie time' put on the side desperately trying to hold on to help facilitate those late goals happening

    I never accepted it, but as per my prior post, 99% of people, all the commentators and pundits, happily accepted that it was ok for this one team and manager to have additional time added at the end of so many of their games for them to try and score a winning goal, that other teams didn't get - Fucking morons as I said
    I never said I know better at all. Its just my opinion. You can't go around calling me a thick cunt or a moron because I'm not buying into your conspiracy theory.
    If this is such a thing why are you the only person who thinks this is real? Or is everybody a moron or are they just realistic?
    If the club even had this suggested to them what do you think their reaction would be?

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    What needs to happen is the viewer/crowd should be able to hear what is being said by the VAR officials and referee.

    This clears things up for everyone and helps fans understand why a decision is made.

    It wont be perfect because nothing is but it works brilliantly in rugby/cricket.

    End of the day fans buying tickets and tv packages are the ones funding the game yet they are treated badly.

    Nothing worse for you at home when the Sky/BT guys know what is going on and you dont.

    Its simple to do but the question is WHY arent they ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Most people just don’t have the time 19.. they don’t have the time to look into everything.

    I wouldn’t just blame the people as a whole.

    They have families - kids to bring up, parents to look after, illnesses to cope with. Life gets in the way of so many things.

    As I have said many of your suspicions - which may seem outlandish to some IMO are well founded, I just think you might be taking them a little far.

    If you are totally correct then I am wrong in this but that is the way I see it now.

    I see that United have had huge ‘benefit of the doubt’ while we have seemingly had none. but I see other clubs getting bulldozed by VAR decisions too.


    I guess what I am saying is - I just don’t know.
    Most people don't have time by design, that is a part of the reason society is like it is and was taken in the direction it was, so people don't stop and take a closer look and think about things

    I get that Tees disagrees, for my own part I have never been afflicted by the world pulled over my eyes

    What was it Einstein wrote?

    "There will come a time when the wealthy and powerful control all forms of communication and at that time common man will no longer be capable of making an informed decision"

    I have, everywhere I have gone, performed absolutely brilliant work Tees, because I don't have this 'status quo' affliction, I've walked through the doors of so many places and seen things differently, asked why things are done a certain way and there is the belief this is the only way of doing things and tried different things that have proved more successful

    After the fact, because if more people could look beyond the 'status quo' people are always like "Oh that was obvious", obvious to me, but not to the tens of thousands of other people who had walked through the doors of those same businesses

    This media drive for everyone to conform to the status quo and accept things as they are very obviously isn't any good, 95% of our population are affected by what I call adverse CBT, CBT was designed to treat mental health, to help condition people who couldn't accept or had fears or phobias of certain things to accept them, it has been used universally by Western media for the last 40 plus years to get people to accept things and allow things to become normalised they should never have accepted
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    I don't disagree with any of that. We are controlled,conditioned wether it be consciously or unconsciously. It takes brave people to stand up to those things/norms or establishments and the sad part is they are often alone and or abandoned because of it.

    If there was a conspiracy against LFC how would you or anyone for that matter go about uncovering or proving it? If the club came out with the theory it would probably marginalise them completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teesred View Post
    I don't disagree with any of that. We are controlled,conditioned wether it be consciously or unconsciously. It takes brave people to stand up to those things/norms or establishments and the sad part is they are often alone and or abandoned because of it.

    If there was a conspiracy against LFC how would you or anyone for that matter go about uncovering or proving it? If the club came out with the theory it would probably marginalise them completely.
    In a nutshell..

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    Quote Originally Posted by teesred View Post
    I don't disagree with any of that. We are controlled,conditioned wether it be consciously or unconsciously. It takes brave people to stand up to those things/norms or establishments and the sad part is they are often alone and or abandoned because of it.

    If there was a conspiracy against LFC how would you or anyone for that matter go about uncovering or proving it? If the club came out with the theory it would probably marginalise them completely.
    Just put together a very detailed video, highlighting what they believe to be match fixing and submit a complaint including that to the police and CPS of the criminal offence they believe is being committed

    Right now they're laughing at us, all those cunts at the FA and referees association are laughing at us, stitching us up game after game believing that because of various contractual stipulations there isn't a damned thing we can do about it, doing as I suggest is the only thing we can do, they can't stop us or sanction us from reporting what we believe to be criminal activity

    Marginalise? Are you joking? We were marginalised the minute our beloved owners attempted their power grab, if we do nothing we allow them to normalise it and it will remain the same or get worse and everyone will accept it, right now people are asking questions and making a bit of noise at least, Souness the true club legend that he is and a couple of others, if we leave it and do nothing, we're fucked, it will be more of the same or worse, season after season after season until you and I are both in the ground or cremated

    You don't get this, 'they' believe that is we are allowed to be at the top of the English game, our beloved owners are going to break up their cash cow and take away all their power and positions of importance and influence as they view them, the die has been cast by our beloved owners and only the strongest action as I suggest will change that
    "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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