January 2021

[TheDOC1979]

The summer of which year? 2525?

Sorry noods, we’re colonising Mars then and the football pitches will be dry as fuck on there! Ffs Klopp

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Manchester United - with their 74,000 seats have only made a record £110m ONCE on match day revenue.. So how we could lose £135m from BCD @Anfield with it’s (what a joke) 20,000 less seats is mind boggling!

I might be wildly wrong but it seems utter baloney to me.

Our matchday income is posted when the club release accounts - "match revenue increasing by £3.5m to £84m." Which was again with a CL Final.

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Sorry noods, we’re colonising Mars then and the football pitches will be dry as fuck on there! Ffs Klopp

Doc going greater than Blatter playing football on the moon !!

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Are these figures gross or net? Are they profits or income? Is the spend deducted from this (wages etc, transfer fees (most clubs don't pay the full sum upfront).

How many of those clubs have spent big at the beginning of the season and now again January?

It is easy to look at numbers without the detail and nuances that in form it

They are turnover figures.

As expected our CL exit to Atleti had an impact on our finances greater than the impact of Covid.
Last season due to a CL early exit, we only lost a handful of matchday gate receipts.

Expecting us to have turned a serious profit and looking at the revenue that's on track.

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Deloitte Football Money League 2018-19 rankings / club / change from 2018 versus 2019 matchday revenue:

1 – Barcelona (up €145m to €159m)

2 – Real Madrid (up €143m to €145m)

3 – Manchester United (up €120m to €121m)

4 – Bayern Munich (down €104m to €92m)

5 – Paris Saint-Germain (up €101m to €116m)

6 – Manchester City (down €64m to €62m)

7 – Liverpool (up €92 to €95m)

8 – Tottenham Hotspur (up €85m to 93m)

9 – Chelsea (down €83m to €76m)

10 – Juventus (up €51m to €66m)

11 – Arsenal (down €112m to €109m)

12 – Borussia Dortmund (up €57m to €60m)

13 – Atletico Madrid (up €57m to €59m)

14 – Inter Milan (up €35m to €51m)

15 – Schalke 04 (up €47m to €54m)

16 – AS Roma (down €35m to €32m)

17 – Olympique Lyonnais (up €37m to €42m)

18 – West Ham United (up €28m to €31m)

19 – Everton (down €19m to €17m)

20 – Napoli (down €19m to €16m)

So even gross - our match day revenue is at €95m - which is £84m - more like half of the £135m you saw from Swiss.


Also Match day incomes have been increasingly dwarfed by commercial and broadcast monies. As people are not able to attend games more are signing up to live broadcast deals which increases the single largest block of revenue streams.




These are uncertain times BUT just as in summer 2019 - you don't stand still - not if you want to stay ahead OR as is now the case - get back into the mix.

I'm expecting our gate receipts to be down as we lost a handful of games after the league returned and we bailed out of the CL earlier.

The Nike deal, when discussed at the time on here, according to a market expert would improve our returns from kit sales by 45-65 million.
Iirc going from 35 to 80-100 million.

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This is the Deloitte money league table for the 19/20 season. It was released a couple of days ago. The 18/19 amounts are in brackets.


1 Barcelona - £627.1m (£741.1m)

2 Real Madrid - £627m (£667.5m)

3 Bayern Munich - £556.1m (£581.8m)

4 Manchester United - £509m (£627.1m)

5 Liverpool - £489.9m (£533m)

6 Manchester City - £481.6m (£538.2m)

7 PSG - £474.1m (£560.5m)

8 Chelsea - £411.9m (£452.2m)

9 Tottenham - £390.9m (£459.3m)

10 Juventus - £349m (£405.2m)

11 Arsenal - £340.3m (£392.7m)

12 Borussia Dortmund - £320.7m (£332.4m)

13 Atletico Madrid - £291m (£324m)

14 Inter Milan - £255.6m (£321.3m)

15 Zenit St Petersburg - £207.4m (£159)

16 Schalke - £195.4m (£286.3m)

17 Everton - £185.9m (£185.5m)

18 Lyon £158.5m (£194.7m)

19 Napoli £154.6m (£182.8m)

20 Eintracht Frankfurt - £152.6m (£160.6m)


Despite this, if you listened to some of our fans you'd think that we were paupers and that we don't even have a pot to pee into.

It's a real pity utd got CL football this year, as although they crashed out early it will have boosted their commercial revenue a tad (millions) and thwarted our aim of getting beyond them

[Insidious]

It's a real pity utd got CL football this year, as although they crashed out early it will have boosted their commercial revenue a tad (millions) and thwarted our aim of getting beyond them

Yeah that was pretty big in the context - they would have lost out on large percentages of some of their deals (Chevrolet or Adidas I think being one of them) which would have slowed them down a fair bit - had they missed out then and then maybe missed out again for the 21/22 season they'd be flagging a bit (relatively speaking) and their malaise would continue.

[justme]

we have THREE days to get a centre back.GET ONE FFS

[LEGS]

we have THREE days to get a centre back.GET ONE FFS

Agreed we have to even Phil Jones will do 🤣

[RedNoodle]

Agreed we have to even Phil Jones will do ��

Grace or Tom Jones would be better than nothing. At least they'd provide some entertainment whilst on the treatment table.