Originally Posted by
RedNoodle
@Crimson
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The reason they spent the Coutinho money straight away is exactly the same reason Kenny did that with the Torres money, and Rodgers with the Suarez money, because if we had let any of our best players at the time leave and not replaced them, not only would there have been serious issues with our owners and each of those managers, but our fanbase would have also been seriously p***ed off. Given what we've 'spent' under FSG, if you think that FSG would have sanctioned the acquisition of the likes of VVD and Alisson without knowing that Coutinho was on his way, you are seriously naive.
Yes we brought Jota, But again, considering our very low net spend since Klopp arrived, the fact we've not signed a load of players, the fact we're the PL champions, have made record revenue, have signed one of the largest sponsorship deals ever, and are already the fifth richest club in the world (something that makes Covid a fair bit less relevant than if we were say Dagenham and Redbridge), again Klopp/we would have been seriously p***ed off if we had not signed someone to help out our attack, which not only largely consisted of just three players, but wasn't/isn't getting enough assistance from those behind them........
Just a few things here...
1) FSG didn't have to buy (specifically) Virgil or Allison. They could have spent (slightly) less to get virtually anyone else on the market, as anyone we got for goalie would have been an improvement over Mignolet/Karius and anyone we got for the backline would have been an improvement over Lovren/Matip et al.
We got Allisson and Van Dijk specifically because those were the two that Klopp wanted.
And Klopp wanted them knowing they were NOT cheap options (so there goes your "He was hired because he works cheap" theory)....and regardless of that FSG spent anyway, what it cost to get them.
How is that not supporting your manager in the transfer market?
And a second part of this, is your suggestion or implication that it was the Coutinho money and if it wasn't for that (or the fact that we knew it was coming) they wouldn't have spent.
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>>>>", if you think that FSG would have sanctioned the acquisition of the likes of VVD and Alisson without knowing that Coutinho was on his way, you are seriously naive."
That's nonsense.
Sorry to say, but...
We were trying to get Van Dijk from the previous Summer transfer window before, when we got slapped on the wrist by the League for tapping up. Remember?
Coutinho was still very much a member of our team then, and even though there were whispers of him wanting to leave, there was no idea that we would be getting any money for him (or how much) by the time we started looking into getting Van Dijk from Southampton at the end of the previous season before we got him.
So again how does that square with your, "...we only got him, because we got Coutinho money, or knew we were eventually getting Coutinho money", theory....when the reality is that we had tried to get Virgil already long before there was an inkling of anything like "Coutinho money"??
Wasn't that their own money they were planning on spending to get him back then?
"Coutinho money" didn't start to become a "thing" until the early part of the following season when rumours started that Barcelona might indeed be interested in getting him and he likewise started making noise about leaving.
That was long after we first tried to get Virgil.
2) Again, you still haven't explained or corroborated how you're so sure that the fact that we have a thin bench, is entirely the fault of FSG not backing him (despite all evidence to the contrary) versus it being a case of Klopp himself just being stubborn (something we've literally observed from him as recently as LAST WEEK, going all the way back to when he persisted with going with Karius/Migs in goal when we all knew they wasn't up to the task, and also when he kept insisting or believing he could draw the best out of Lovren or the likes of Moreno. We even see it now with his insistence on Bobby.)
3) My assertion that FSG have backed Klopp is not just an opinion, it's a FACT that's backed by actual evidence of how much our current squad is worth, and are paid and how how we've gone for players that Klopp has asked for in the market and not hesitated to pay what was asked for (within reason, and within the bounds of our financial structure).
WE can argue all day about how much that support has been and whether in either of our opinion it's been "enough". We can even argue about whether said support has actually been taken advantage of when it was there (in terms of Klopp's own role in all this), but let's not argue about what's actually happened and can be proven by fact, which is the idea that FSG have indeed supported the manager........that THEY hired..........because of his managerial abilities first and foremost.
(....and not just because he was going to save them a couple of quid, despite them having spent more on just two players for him than some clubs spend on their entire squads)
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