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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev0909 View Post
    I'm getting a bit tired of us fucking about with posession around the back etc

    Why?
    Think a lot of it is to do with energy conservation over the course of a season. If you have more of the ball, you're pressing less. If you're pressing less, you accumulate less sprints and accelerations, which in turn should (should!!!) mean less injuries and less fatigue.

    This then allows for a higher-energy performance when required (City, Champion's League knock-out) with a view to competing properly on both fronts.

    If we go high-intensity every week we are gassed by February.

    Don't think this is all of it, but definitely a factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    Think a lot of it is to do with energy conservation over the course of a season. If you have more of the ball, you're pressing less. If you're pressing less, you accumulate less sprints and accelerations, which in turn should (should!!!) mean less injuries and less fatigue.

    This then allows for a higher-energy performance when required (City, Champion's League knock-out) with a view to competing properly on both fronts.

    If we go high-intensity every week we are gassed by February.

    Don't think this is all of it, but definitely a factor.
    Then we take our chances with full gas, blow teams away then sit back and relex.
    We just look like every other team when playing half arsed. We're miles better than that.

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    We'd 9 subs on the bench, If the players arn't giving it all then they need hooked. Milner, Ox and Minamino could all came on and made a difference.

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    The way we broke down almost all park the bus sides last season was from centre to left switches to Mane or Robbo, mostly to Mane with Robbo and Gini backing the switch up looking to win the second ball or for Mane to win it and head it back to them

    Mane especially for his size is phenomenal at getting in front of his defender, bringing the ball down, touching it back to Robbo or Gini or making the defenders life so difficult they can't affect a proper clearance allowing Robbo or Gini or Bobby to win the second ball

    We didn't do nearly enough of that yesterday considering how many times it got us vital breakthroughs against park the bus sides last season and it was constantly on, that's why I was asking/wondering why Hendo didn't play more of that ball

    centre to left switch to Mane, Robbo and Gini looking to back it up and Mo and Bobby positioning themselves for runs into the box

    Got us loads of breakthroughs last season
    "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianlfc View Post
    We'd 9 subs on the bench, If the players arn't giving it all then they need hooked. Milner, Ox and Minamino could all came on and made a difference.
    Yep don't feel like we make good use of subs

    83rd and 90th min?

    Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    Think a lot of it is to do with energy conservation over the course of a season. If you have more of the ball, you're pressing less. If you're pressing less, you accumulate less sprints and accelerations, which in turn should (should!!!) mean less injuries and less fatigue.

    This then allows for a higher-energy performance when required (City, Champion's League knock-out) with a view to competing properly on both fronts.

    If we go high-intensity every week we are gassed by February.

    Don't think this is all of it, but definitely a factor.
    Our trouble is that we have a propensity to be very 'one paced at times' i.e. doing everything at full throttle, or being a bit too lethargic and slow to do anything with the ball, as was the case against WBA. We need to mix it up a bit, which is how you open up packed and/or well organised defences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev0909 View Post
    Yep don't feel like we make good use of subs

    83rd and 90th min?

    Seriously?
    That is one of Klopp's biggest failings. His timing and use of our subs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedNoodle View Post
    Our trouble is that we have a propensity to be very 'one paced at times' i.e. doing everything at full throttle, or being a bit too lethargic and slow to do anything with the ball, as was the case against WBA. We need to mix it up a bit, which is how you open up packed and/or well organised defences.
    it's ridiculously hard to play through a team lined up 6-4-0, the best way to disturb their lines, as per my prior post and how we did so successfully in most of our games v park the bus sides is putting Mane up against their RB and playing switches to him backed up by Robbo and Gini and him laying it off to either or either winning second balls or nicking it off the opposition really really high if it fell to them, it works and has worked for us really well, it's incredibly difficult to move a 6-4-0 side to side and pick balls through them to connect runs, especially when they're blocking or pulling back your runners as was happening constantly yesterday

    Put a switch in though, Mane wins it lays it off to Robb supported by Gini and is instantly on the move in behind the player he's won it ahead of, another player's coming out to Robbo, that's 2 players taken out of the game right there, It's often more when Mane just stops their lad clearing it effectively as 2 or 3 more get attracted to the second ball and when we win it they can have 4 players taken out of the game with the Mane, Robbo and Gini combo and we have Bobby and Mo already starting their runs into the box
    "If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden, i'd close the curtains”

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    Or...alternatively.....we could lob pass it across the width of the pitch - minimum 8 times consecutively - rendering opposition defenders dizzy - then switch it one more time before Trent hits a high ball at over 12 feet from the deck across the penalty spot - Bobby can put his boot into Mané’s cupped hands synchronising a trapeze artist lift...Bobby rising fully 15 feet into the air - like a Salmon - as he headers the ball down and into the net.


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    Or -failing that... a mass steam in......?

    8 outfield players run like buffalo into the box screaming Freedom....!

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