Liverpool v Burnley (Match Thread)

[SydneyLFC]

Anybody who can/is open to seeing it knew that unless we had a continual process of refreshing/beefing up the squad, eventually we would run into difficulties, and that was before you factored in things such as injuries to key players. You simply cannot play the way that Klopp likes to with effectively the same small group of players for 2-3 seasons in a row and not expect some kind of sizeable dip.

Who is to say whether 'making demands' would get him/us anywhere? However all I know is that if one manager can/could have done that without putting their job at risk, it is/was Klopp.

This is so right. There's no way this group of players could maintain the same standard. The team is crying out for a refresh, plus the lack of skilled replacements has let a few players become complacent. Klopp's decision making is also under the microscope - Origi in a game that we needed to win to build confidence? Not trusting Nat Philips or a.n.other young CB over many games - swapping and changing CBs (not mention playing Jota in dead rubber). Klopp and team have lost their swagger - can't see anything other than a grind until the end of the season. The State Arab bank employee team will win it at a saunter - I can't see any silverware this season because FSG will not spent a dime until the summer.

[HLOGI]

Compare us to others LEGS. I respect the opinion, but cant see us being a great team if we rely entirely on fans. 75 shots without a goal on target? We can't rely on the fans. Burnley certainly didn't, Southampton haven't needed them, united and city aren't doing so badly. Even spurs with the best Empty stadium in the world don't need them.

It comes from the players wanting it. If the players didn't want it against Barca, we weren't getting squat

Liverpool support and what happens at Anfield is like nowhere else. Okay maybe a few other stadiums in world football. I agree that we are white but the Andield roar mixed with Klopp has been something else these last 5 years. Shouldn't be undervalued.

[RedNoodle]

It also doesn't hurt that Haaland is the more realistic possibility.

Dortmund know they don't have him for the spell, and eventually a big club will come from him, so they will likely ask for a more realistic fee than PSG who are ostensibly building around Mbappe - a local icon - but who if faced with the prospect of losing him will ask for a crazy high fee that would be insane to pay even for a player at his level.

I've always had a preference for Haaland or Sancho over Mbappe - Sancho, admittedly, because it's been reported that he would prefer to come to us over the Mancs if he were to come back to England.

Also, in both their cases, I'd have to imagine Klopp's former links with the club would help us get a better deal.

No offence, but if anyone believes any of those players are coming to us, they need to give their head a serious wobble.

[Kev0909]

Did anyone actually think we'd score tonight?

After the first 30 mins I just thought oh here we go again

you just knew it wasn't going to happen, same old same old...

One thing that did surprise was Allison giving the penalty away and actually losing, I thought we'd get another 0-0 draw at least to burnley of all teams..

no goals in 4 jesus wept

[skyebo]

Mcmanaman calling out the dubious officiating. He is questioning how Barnes is pen and not Mane. Highlights that it is the same thing. Same with the yellow card for Fabinho but Barnes didnt get 1. We lost because we were shite but wow the officiating is really diabolical. Barnes even kicked Allison for the pen but well VAR u know.

He should join this forum, he'd fit in very well.

[jozza800]

Too much tappy tappy too soon, yes we needed some evolution and greater ability to play through teams, but trying to do that all at once throwing everything that made us brilliant and exciting and WINNERS out of the window has been a huge error especially when being direct, winning second balls and recycling balls from set pieces and creating from there was the source of almost all our goals the last 3 seasons

First sensible thing you've said in months.

[TheDOC1979]

Then they are useless players if they need to hear fans singing their names just to play to the level they're required to play at.
Besides which, our poor run of form had already began while we were on of the only clubs still allowed to have fans in the stadium.

It's just a lazy excuse at this point.
The fans are supposed to give you that little bit of extra in games you're looking like you'll win, but just can't seem to close the deal.
Not getting you all the way over while you look clueless the entire game.


The problem with us is that during this run we simply haven't looked like we'd score even if we kept playing for another 100 minutes over regulation time.
That's not the kind of situation that having fans in the stadium would help with.

CD gets it!

Honestly sick and tired of all the excuses "fatigue, the refs are against us, we have no fans" Apart from injuries, there isn't any acceptable excuse apart from the players aren't playing anymore.

Every other side has the same fixture congestion, has the same fatigue and is lacking fans.

[Crimson Dynasty]

Mbappe only has one year left but he will either sign a big deal at PSG or run his contract down and go to Madrid in 2022.

He is very good obviously but he will demand £400k a week and that is not for me.

There's that too.

No chance he turns down an opportunity to go play for his childhood hero Zidane at the biggest club in the world.

And yes, I'm just not comfortable having a 400k a week player on the books no matter how good he is, and I'm actually glad the club is standing its ground in contract negotiations with Gini and not offering anything that would break our wage structure.

Just look at the nightmare the Arsenal heirarchy went through with their overpaid Mesil Osut situation.
Can't be dealing with that sort of mess here.

[Kev0909]

CD gets it!

Honestly sick and tired of all the excuses "fatigue, the refs are against us, we have no fans" Apart from injuries, there isn't any acceptable excuse apart from the players aren't playing anymore.

Every other side has the same fixture congestion, has the same fatigue and is lacking fans.

I agree too, sick of the excuses

even Klopp keeps making them, for example saying about utd playing how they did with "world class players"

He might have a point if we didn't fail against relegation fodder/championship standard teams and lose/draw/fail to score again v them

we're just lucky utd was chicken shits and didn't go for the win

[LEGS]

Compare us to others LEGS. I respect the opinion, but cant see us being a great team if we rely entirely on fans. 75 shots without a goal on target? We can't rely on the fans. Burnley certainly didn't, Southampton haven't needed them, united and city aren't doing so badly. Even spurs with the best Empty stadium in the world don't need them.

It comes from the players wanting it. If the players didn't want it against Barca, we weren't getting squat

I think some teams are liking it without pressure of a crowd but our team isnt one of them.

I said BCD/shorter season before a ball was kicked suits City the style they play.

United are getting results but since lockdown have had a huge helping hand on VAR that is a fact.

Burnley are doing what Burnley do they are the new Stoke no sour grapes but I watch em 2-3 times a season.