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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    Not a whole lot - I was pointing towards the fact that people will point to net spend (transfer fees) and suggest money has been saved or not spent respectively, whilst not bearing in mind that a player paid, say £50k per week may have left at one stage, but a £100k per week player may have come in, whose contract goes up to £180k per week - which won't be shown in the context of transfers in/out, much like agent fees.
    The net spend is significantly down per season on the days of Rodgers.

    Under Klopp revenue has grown in excess of expenses(mostly wages) too

    So the spending on transfers in net spend terms is down.
    Revenue has outgrown expenses under Klopp
    The club is posting decent profits

    I do find it bemusing how people bring up counterpoints like wages and yet seem incapable of dealing with revenue growth exceeding expenditure growth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGS View Post
    I didnt compare us to Spurs I added Arsenal and United like you did.

    Yeah your stats are true but means nowt as they spent a fortune on Bale who has done jack shit.

    United have spent way more but it means noyhinh if you have a crap manager and sign the wrong players.

    Not included City/Chelsea as they arent ran the same way.

    I cant comment on our accounts as I dont have them in front of me, but I do know Spurs/Arsenal took a bank loan out why if they are so rich ??
    Loans - a complex area but I believe at the minute interest rates are at a very low rate, so you can access credit at next to no cost.

    For big business I believe that loans/debt isn't too important, more about income and ability to service those debts.

    A decision to not take on a loan/debt to bolster the squad and the low or no interest cost of it, would be minuscule to the risk of dropping out of next season's CL.

    I know a person who had cash up front for a new car-jeep, got the car on hire purchase at zero interest.
    Essentially paying off the car in installments at no extra cost to cash up front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    The net spend is significantly down per season on the days of Rodgers.

    Under Klopp revenue has grown in excess of expenses(mostly wages) too

    So the spending on transfers in net spend terms is down.
    Revenue has outgrown expenses under Klopp
    The club is posting decent profits

    I do find it bemusing how people bring up counterpoints like wages and yet seem incapable of dealing with revenue growth exceeding expenditure growth.
    Fair enough - some of this is off-set by unseen agent fees, the cost of a Pandemic (United for example have lost £129m and counting) and the fact we have "ear-marked" money that we won't want to eat into, such as the £60m for the next stage of the stadium's development, or "main" Summer targets that we may have consciously decide we don't want to overspend on by £15m as a result of buying them in January (what would Upamecano cost in Jan, £55m?) rather than waiting 5 months or so.

    The next set(s) of financial accounts will be interesting anyway.
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    Keep playing the strongest team until the fans are happy to see them go. It’s very close now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    Fair enough - some of this is off-set by unseen agent fees, the cost of a Pandemic (United for example have lost £129m and counting) and the fact we have "ear-marked" money that we won't want to eat into, such as the £60m for the next stage of the stadium's development, or "main" Summer targets that we may have consciously decide we don't want to overspend on by £15m as a result of buying them in January (what would Upamecano cost in Jan, £55m?) rather than waiting 5 months or so.

    The next set(s) of financial accounts will be interesting anyway.
    Your last line Sid, can anyone see those ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyebo View Post
    Your last line Sid, can anyone see those ?
    They're always published, aye.

    But you always get information "late" as it were, so there is always an element of guess-work when trying to figure out what the "live" situation is.

    Here is a link to the financial statements for the period ended 31 May 2019 -

    https://d3j2s6hdd6a7rg.cloudfront.net/images/misc/Liverpool-Football-Club-Annual-Report-and-Consolidated-Financial-Statements-31May2019.PDF

    It will be PDF and you'll have to download. If it doesn't work, try access via copy and paste of "https://www.liverpoolfc.com/corporate/financial-information" and there will be a "please download to view" with "download" being an interactive click.
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    I'm somewhat at a loss as to why everyone's whinging about our net spend when having a smaller tight knit squad and 14 or 15 that feature in almost every game has beeen a huge reason for our success
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious View Post
    They're always published, aye.

    But you always get information "late" as it were, so there is always an element of guess-work when trying to figure out what the "live" situation is.

    Here is a link to the financial statements for the period ended 31 May 2019 -

    https://d3j2s6hdd6a7rg.cloudfront.net/images/misc/Liverpool-Football-Club-Annual-Report-and-Consolidated-Financial-Statements-31May2019.PDF

    It will be PDF and you'll have to download. If it doesn't work, try access via copy and paste of "https://www.liverpoolfc.com/corporate/financial-information" and there will be a "please download to view" with "download" being an interactive click.
    Ok thanks for that Sid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nineteenx View Post
    I'm somewhat at a loss as to why everyone's whinging about our net spend when having a smaller tight knit squad and 14 or 15 that feature in almost every game has beeen a huge reason for our success
    It has been a real success, but a squad that was too small (which ours is "in effect" due to how many players are never fit) was also detrimental to us in the past - 08/09 we didn't quite win the League, 09/10 we had a drop, 14/15 we couldn't get close to challenging again.

    I don't think we can expect the same 14/15 to be available and in top form semi-indefinitely.
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    Our squad maybe small and compact. But we don't have some players in some positions. we don't have a forward. Just a false 9 and then some others who can play there.
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