Reply With QuoteWould Salah or Mane play anyone else in there? Not a prayer.Originally Posted by Nineteenx
Hes in a one on one. If he had passed it and we missed it he would be getting slated for not taking it on himself.
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First Team
Totally agree Steveo if that is Vardy/Kane no chance they square it to a team mate.
Origi played well imo and should have stayed on unless he was knackered/injured which I dont think was the case.
He deserves to start tomorrow.
It puts all the rumours of us loaning him out to bed that serves no purpose to us at all.
First Team
Would Salah or Mane play anyone else in there? Not a prayer.
Hes in a one on one. If he had passed it and we missed it he would be getting slated for not taking it on himself.
Gloryhunter
Just the really good ones. And probably not always. Actually scratch that - very good professionals on millions a year should be doing this.
Or 3., they're a very serious professional who realises that whether or not they're picked for the next game doesn't hang solely on them getting their name on the scoresheet and that the team's success is more important than their personal stats.
I can't stand all these excuses made for strikers all the time. "Oh, but they must be greedy, oh but they have to be hungry." And then people turn around and slate Neco Williams or Curtis Jones when they try to Maradona dribble past five players on the edge of the box (not that they shouldn't be slated for that, mind you). Attackers have it so easy in some regards.
Imagine if that had been the other way? Say Joe Gomez tries to slide tackle as the last man instead of holding his ground when the latter would have been a slighly better / less dangerous option and that cost us a goal? We'd all be slating him (and rightly so).
Etiam si omnes, ego non
Gloryhunter
But now he should be getting slated for not passing it. And passing would have given us a better chance to score => the EV of slating is lower if he passes it.
Etiam si omnes, ego non
First Team
I don't think any striker is passing that chance up.
Gloryhunter
Doesn't really mean they shouldn't pass it in that situation though...
Etiam si omnes, ego non
Gloryhunter
No. There are those who would pass there. Agree it doesn't happen often, but from time to time it does take place.
And it should happen a lot more.
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First Team
when was the last time mane scored?
What makes you think he'd do better?
probably would of hit it wide/over the bar!
Rowdy Yates
A Striker that passes that up is not a striker. It is that hunger and greed that drives the instinct to score.
As mentioned there are circumstances where even a Suarez would do it - but they are exceedingly rare.
It’s only being debated because he missed.. if he passed to Mané and Mané - who fluffs his lines often misses - you all slate Origi for passing the buck.
First Team
no one would be telling Salah to pass it. People need to get off his back. Out of all the front three, for the last month, he's the only one who's actually put in any real effort.
My issue is with Klopp and his treatment of some of the players. It happened with Shaqiri a few times. Great games, then gets dropped for Lallana. Minamino, bought as a "steal" probably not playing enough in his preferred position, and gets slated. Players don't go from great to shit over night. You take any the faith in them, their confidence drops. How do you prove it? By trying to score goals and thats what Origi was trying to do. Shameful treatment of him and other by the manager regardless
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