Page 13 of 26 FirstFirst ... 36789101112131415161718192023 ... LastLast
Results 121 to 130 of 253

Thread: The demise of Football Club Barcelona

  1. #121
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    offaly
    Posts
    16,996
    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    As I said I shudder with worry for them.

    They are possibly facing some ramifications for being the livery for the failed Catalonia independence push but they should just about manage to survive.

    Just.
    It’s happened to big teams before the they’ve struggled financially for a while. I’m not suggesting they become Barcelona fc

  2. #122
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    4,010
    Leeds United were declared formally insolvent with debts of £30 million

  3. #123
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    4,010
    the scale of the mess is described well here


  4. #124
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    23,566
    So - what changed since 2015…?

    https://hbr.org/2015/06/what-makes-fc-barcelona-such-a-successful-business

    This certainly didn’t help.

    https://www.goal.com/story/behind-the-barcelona-chaos-catalan-club-matters-beyond-football/

    I am sure the resident experts on how to ‘run’ a club will have all the pertinent answers.

  5. #125
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Posts
    34,496
    No wonder Guardiola had absolutely no interest in going back there.

    Be interesting if he did though, to see just how good he is when he isn’t in a position to hoover up all the best players in his own league and Europe’s elite.
    He wouldn’t do it though.

  6. #126
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    23,566
    They are the national team and flag bearer of Catalonia (it’s failed independence attempt) and all the associated dread that holds for Spain and the EU. It’s quite obvious that their situation is far more complicated than some on here would have us believe.

  7. #127
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    25,079
    There are subtle intricacies to their issues, but it boils down to a couple of things really.

    Loss of match day revenue during the Pandemic on a 99,000 seat stadium is an obvious one. But their museum generates over €50 million in revenue per year as well. Then their soccer schools generate over €15 million per year too and all their retail outlets. During the Pandemic the cash flow dried up.

    Then their wage bill is beyond bloated. Messi is on €100 million per year which is absolutely nuts - we're talking about ten times Salah's wages there. Most football analysts will say that about 60% of revenue going to wages is a "high" but manageable/healthy level. In La Liga there's a salary cap, which is 70% by the League's rules. which has a salary cap, sets a maximum of 70% by league rules.

    Barca have been in the habit of dabbling super close to 70% in "normal" circumstances, but with the sudden drop in revenue they're going to end up over threshold.

    The question is, will La Liga do anything about it to punish them? One suspects not because Barca are deemed so commercially important to the League, but Real Madrid are unlikely to let that slide, so you never know.

    Barca have managed to get roughly €80 million per year off of their salary bill, yet they are still projected to exceed the League's salary cap.

    Should have sold Messi a few years ago as far as I'm concerned, not to mention that Griezmann, Coutinho and Dembele haven't been the most intelligent of purchases - and were with the aim of keeping the very man they have "over-built" around happy.

  8. #128
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    4,010
    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    So - what changed since 2015…?

    https://hbr.org/2015/06/what-makes-fc-barcelona-such-a-successful-business

    This certainly didn’t help.

    https://www.goal.com/story/behind-the-barcelona-chaos-catalan-club-matters-beyond-football/

    I am sure the resident experts on how to ‘run’ a club will have all the pertinent answers.
    Perhaps the people who wrote the article about their success don’t understand economics and are unable to take a long term view?

    What do you think has changed? I don’t think Grieznann was earning 800,000 euros a week in 2015

  9. #129
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    4,010
    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    They are the national team and flag bearer of Catalonia (it’s failed independence attempt) and all the associated dread that holds for Spain and the EU. It’s quite obvious that their situation is far more complicated than some on here would have us believe.
    What would some on here have us believe? Has anyone said that their symbolic cultural status in Catalonia doesn't exist? Why not say what your analysis actually is, rather than making sideways snipes.

    Their player wage bill is thought to be 110% of income. That is the result of decision making in the club hierarchy. It is going to cause them massive problems, verging on ruin. In what way is that untrue?

  10. #130
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    4,010


    The French league clubs are now experiencing severe financial problems as a result of over ambitious investment and the arrival of Covid lockdowns

    The clubs are £400 million down on last season
    Sir what is going on.. things is not going according to plan. u promiss early signing. noting happen. Man u 3 player now

Similar Threads

  1. The demise of Liverpool Football Club
    By Balinkay in forum Football Forum
    Replies: 165
    Last Post: 26th January 2021, 08:48 AM

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •