The demise of Football Club Barcelona

[darrenpotter]

I have been in far worse places you twit. You don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. Try Sarajevo and Mostar when 3 sides are ripping each other to bits. Just zip it!

Oh and stop trying to label someone who loves Ireland and is half Irish as anti Irish - you just look more of a fool than you already do:

You are clearly too thick to converse with.

So fuck off

Thats a pathetic back track even for a rat like you. You've been called out get over it you fucking low life

[eggy81]

Correct on my ancestry. But I was being deadly serious.

Seems to be a high percentage of younger Irish people who are happy to fall inline with US styled monopoly capitalism.

I think this follows through to football and leads a few to try the impossible and attempt to justify the role our club played in the ESL!

I think we’ve been that way for a very long time to be honest. Very little push back in Ireland against anything that’s foisted on us by the two main parties.
You should see the blowback you get on Irish forums for daring to suggest anything was wrong with how Covid was dealt with etc. Fucking hell.

[Steveo]

Thats a pathetic back track even for a rat like you. You've been called out get over it you fucking low life

Some quality posts from the total thicko.

Enjoy your ignorance

[Steveo]

Here’s some more “anti Irish bile”

It touches on what I have been saying.

Acceptance of greed is becoming the norm.

Economic growth, capitalism and greed
Madam, - The Central Statistics Office has projected that this State will need approximately 45,000 immigrant workers each year…
Wed, Dec 22, 2004, 00:00
Madam, - The Central Statistics Office has projected that this State will need approximately 45,000 immigrant workers each year for the next 12 years to maintain a 3 to 5 per cent economic growth rate. Needless to say, this forecast was welcomed by the business sector.
Why do we need this rate of growth and, more importantly, who would benefit from such growth? Nobody can deny that the recent economic expansion has brought real benefits to a large number of Irish people and has been embraced without criticism by almost all the political establishment and the vast bulk of the trade union leadership.
However, such an approach to economic development has its drawbacks. Currently, 37 per cent of our workforce is engaged in the low-wage sector of the economy and we have over 4 per cent unemployment. This sector of the economy includes large numbers of immigrant workers. So does the black economy, for which no accurate figures are to hand. The CSO seems to suggest that we continue to trundle down this road of cheap non-union labour, resulting in long work hours, short holidays or none, and a growing gap between rich and poor. In other words, we should continue to hitch our economic wagon to the US system of monopoly capitalism.
All that this policy will achieve is to allow the wealthy to use their increased profits to further their political influence and to use this influence in the political establishments of Europe so that all aspects of society can be reduced to economy for economy's sake. It takes no account of our quality of life as Irish citizens and how it affects us as a small, indigenous population on a small island. It takes no account of anything but aimless, unplanned greed. - Yours, etc.,
SIMON O'DONNELL, Church Place, Rathmines, Dublin 6.



https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/saoirse-mchugh-column-capitalism-4884073-Nov2019/

[Taksin]

[QUOTE=Steveo;2713461]
Why do we need this rate of growth and, more importantly, who would benefit from such growth?
[QUOTE]


We need that level of growth to inflate away the debts that are accrued exponentially by successive generations of over-spending governments. That’s the model. The quantitive easing that is the endgame of this model of governance is the thing that exacerbates the gap between rich and poor. It’s called the Cantillon effect. Cantillon, ironically, was an Irish economist who saw how central banks created the wealthy class at the expense of ordinary workers.

But the great socialist sons of Shankly like you keep telling us that going into massive debt is absolutely fine and in fact the measure of our humanity. And then we have to be patronised and insulted by you along the way for daring to point out the flaws in your over-confident formulations.

[justme]

I thought this thread was about Barcelona not the Irish political system? Think of poor little Messi crying.

[Steveo]

I thought this thread was about Barcelona not the Irish political system? Think of poor little Messi crying.

You make a fair point.

@Taksin - I am not calling for debt. Think we can all agree it isn’t a good idea. Just more impetus and a stronger desire to grab the bull by the horns and go for it while Klopp is here. I don’t want us to overspend and blow it all on overpriced primadonnas - but think we are well short now.

[darrenpotter]

Here’s some more “anti Irish bile”

It touches on what I have been saying.

Acceptance of greed is becoming the norm.

Economic growth, capitalism and greed
Madam, - The Central Statistics Office has projected that this State will need approximately 45,000 immigrant workers each year…
Wed, Dec 22, 2004, 00:00
Madam, - The Central Statistics Office has projected that this State will need approximately 45,000 immigrant workers each year for the next 12 years to maintain a 3 to 5 per cent economic growth rate. Needless to say, this forecast was welcomed by the business sector.
Why do we need this rate of growth and, more importantly, who would benefit from such growth? Nobody can deny that the recent economic expansion has brought real benefits to a large number of Irish people and has been embraced without criticism by almost all the political establishment and the vast bulk of the trade union leadership.
However, such an approach to economic development has its drawbacks. Currently, 37 per cent of our workforce is engaged in the low-wage sector of the economy and we have over 4 per cent unemployment. This sector of the economy includes large numbers of immigrant workers. So does the black economy, for which no accurate figures are to hand. The CSO seems to suggest that we continue to trundle down this road of cheap non-union labour, resulting in long work hours, short holidays or none, and a growing gap between rich and poor. In other words, we should continue to hitch our economic wagon to the US system of monopoly capitalism.
All that this policy will achieve is to allow the wealthy to use their increased profits to further their political influence and to use this influence in the political establishments of Europe so that all aspects of society can be reduced to economy for economy's sake. It takes no account of our quality of life as Irish citizens and how it affects us as a small, indigenous population on a small island. It takes no account of anything but aimless, unplanned greed. - Yours, etc.,
SIMON O'DONNELL, Church Place, Rathmines, Dublin 6.



https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/saoirse-mchugh-column-capitalism-4884073-Nov2019/

Posting a rant by a serial media letter writer and card carrying shinner does absolutely nothing for your argument. Try again shankly wannabe.

[ianlfc]

Loathe so much but spread the anti irish bile which has been commonplace to irish in england since i was on sites 30 odd years ago.
Would love to put you into some of belfasts finer hostelries to see you shit yourself you fucking weasel.

Belfast is British not Irish 😂😂😂

[Steveo]

Posting a rant by a serial media letter writer and card carrying shinner does absolutely nothing for your argument. Try again shankly wannabe.

So you don’t believe he made any salient points that turned out to be prophetic?


I suggest you read the link too which is far more recent and looks at the same issue from another angle.

Or are you just determined to have a fight?

Shankly wannabe? Happy to take that moniker.

It’s clear what you are…