It can’t get any worse surely

[Steveo]

Haha...

Just make the bizarre claim that losing 4 in 6 is in fact better than losing 2 in 9 - even when half of that 2 was after the title was already won.


Go wind up the sheep - I’m about to count them

[CCTV]

Maybe in your dreams you can travel back and rescue Jones, Lallana, Neco, Adrian, Origi and Minamino from having played too much football and being exhausted under Klopps reign of terror.

They were a clear sign of the exhaustion from having to play so many games over recent seasons under Klopp.
Not, NOT a weakened side as is usual in the cups.

Sick note adam played so much football in recent seasons

Adrian bolloxed from pressing and counter pressing, having arrived in summer 2019

Origi clearly playing too much football.

Klopp ran down minamino since January with all that football.

Neco and Jones poor young kids wrecked from too much football under Klopp.

It's worse than the inclusion of the cup games to make the with without hendo effect artificially bigger than it was/is.

[CCTV]

2 senior players who rarely played

2 senior players bolloxed by the lack of additions in summer 2019 having played so much football before summer 2019 - both arrived after the timeline

And 2 emerging youth players that barely kicked a ball before summer 2019

All bolloxed from the accumulated fatigue

Temerity thy name is Steveo

[Insidious]

Apparently if Henderson makes it to the second half today, then the Henderson+Kabak partnership becomes the longest pairing of the season, with the current "record" run being two and a half games of Henderson and Phillips.

That's absolutely mental if it's accurate.

[jr81]

Apparently if Henderson makes it to the second half today, then the Henderson+Kabak partnership becomes the longest pairing of the season, with the current "record" run being two and a half games of Henderson and Phillips.

That's absolutely mental if it's accurate.

You jinxed it 😊
That is mad when you see it like that..

[Insidious]

You jinxed it 😊
That is mad when you see it like that..

It's a lot of change - which is compounded by the fact we have probably had 10 or so combinations of midfield 3 - which wouldn't be an enormous problem in-and-of itself, but when paired with the centre-back problem, the issues definitely stack.

[Steveo]

2 senior players who rarely played

2 senior players bolloxed by the lack of additions in summer 2019 having played so much football before summer 2019 - both arrived after the timeline

And 2 emerging youth players that barely kicked a ball before summer 2019

All bolloxed from the accumulated fatigue

Temerity thy name is Steveo

Well well well.. In desperation Jones is now included as a genuine first team player back in January and February of 2020... so too is Neco Williams... But guess what - if they play in cup competition then they don’t count. HAHA

There must be some serious GM croppage in your neck of the woods..

Batshit crazy.

Regardless of the players stated and if you really believe they were good enough alternatives at the time.. Klopp clearly did not. So he must either be in favour of running his star players into the ground OR - and far more likely - he simply doesn’t have enough star players even to compete on more than one front!

[jr81]

Well well well.. In desperation Jones is now included as a genuine first team player back in January and February of 2020... so too is Neco Williams... But guess what - if they play in cup competition then they don’t count. HAHA

There must be some serious GM croppage in your neck of the woods..

Batshit crazy.

Regardless of the players stated and if you really believe they were good enough alternatives at the time.. Klopp clearly did not. So he must either be in favour of running his star players into the ground OR - and far more likely - he simply doesn’t have enough star players even to compete on more than one front!

The last part of what you say. He hasn't enough quality players. I'm starting to believe he doesn't trust many players outside of a core 12 to 13 and the majority of those are injured. With all our mounting problems and games he still isn't rotating. Theikes of tmiskas, ox and origi have been available but never play. So he obviously doesn't rate them to play. That's my thinking.

[Steveo]

You jinxed it 😊
That is mad when you see it like that..

Sadly tempting fate is a recurring theme in life. This forum is no different.

Summer 2020 - Musings on here that our data analysis team influence the buying of players seemingly immune to injury - or those with outstanding injury record...
Check

Summer 2020: Ramblings that we have 3 or 4 players for most positions....
Check.

Laughing at the lowly league position of United in the “Demise of” Thread....
Check

Look what happens next.

[Steveo]

The last part of what you say. He hasn't enough quality players. I'm starting to believe he doesn't trust many players outside of a core 12 to 13 and the majority of those are injured. With all our mounting problems and games he still isn't rotating. Theikes of tmiskas, ox and origi have been available but never play. So he obviously doesn't rate them to play. That's my thinking.

And you would be right. The question is who is to blame for that.

Some will blame Klopp and I will blame the owners.