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    Quote Originally Posted by southernboy View Post
    Personally, it was massive relief. The H&G saga had dragged on for so long, it just felt like a massive weight had been lifted. That said, no one had any illusions that FSG were the best thing since sliced bread... it was accepted from day one that they're American and would never understand football from a cultural perspective. That opinion has been proven time after time.

    Their moment of personal glory was recruiting Klopp. No one can take that away from them. He's been the best thing to happen to the club for decades.

    I'm not FSG Out, purely because the only realistic alternative that I can see (Saudi oil money) doesn't sit comfortably with me.

    FSG have blotted their copy book almost beyond repair. Time will tell whether they can fix the damage done, but one way or another, we have to accept that we're stuck with them for the immediate future.
    Thanks Southernboy.
    If you're not sure what to do with the ball, just put it in the net, and we'll talk about the other options later... Bob Paisley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southernboy View Post
    Personally, it was massive relief. The H&G saga had dragged on for so long, it just felt like a massive weight had been lifted. That said, no one had any illusions that FSG were the best thing since sliced bread... it was accepted from day one that they're American and would never understand football from a cultural perspective. That opinion has been proven time after time.

    Their moment of personal glory was recruiting Klopp. No one can take that away from them. He's been the best thing to happen to the club for decades.

    I'm not FSG Out, purely because the only realistic alternative that I can see (Saudi oil money) doesn't sit comfortably with me.

    FSG have blotted their copy book almost beyond repair. Time will tell whether they can fix the damage done, but one way or another, we have to accept that we're stuck with them for the immediate future.
    This is precisely where I am at too.

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    @LEGS. Yeah I remember Morgan. Imagine if he had bought the club.
    Did we dodge a bullet when the DIC deal fell through? ( Maktoum under fire for kidnapping his own daughter, now being asked for proof of life!).
    I'm sure there would be plenty of potential suitors should the club become available but at what price in terms of public image and decency, FSG have been guilty of some absolute blunders in their time but nothing close to what could have been considered really bad ( which could happen if we are sold to an oligarch or Chinese consortium?). I said earlier, they're c$#nts but they are our c$#ts.
    Not saying I like them but like Miller said, be careful what you wish for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGS View Post
    The premier league should be helping to make the league more competitive now.

    I mean all the mouthing off they’ve done you can make a start by making sure FFP sticks and introduce caps on all clubs.

    I mean we could end up with a Bundesliga if we aren’t careful.

    UEFA/FIFA next followed by the shit show of VAR please.
    How can the PL make it more competitive? They already divide the tv money out on a near communist level, or as people might like to call it democratic.
    Should they give teams money to ensure Bournemouth have the same budget as Manu?

    Ffp, really ? The CAS put an end to that with their verdicts on appeal. FFP will only incur fines and small impacts on squad sizes. It's dead and the big traditional clubs are at risk of competing with other clubs bankrolled by states. I suppose lfc, real and the like have won enough conpetitions already. So it might be nice to see city and PSG win a few titles.

    UEFA/FIFA next , what you've seen is a mighty flex of institutional power over their members. Prime ministers jumping to their tune.
    Future economic growth is going to be in the digital market, the clubs have survived a year without fans. They couldn't survive a year without tv revenue. That's where future growth will be.
    The various bodies have managed to prevent clubs from taking their cash cow into the club's control. It's a fantastic day for UEFA/FIFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    How can the PL make it more competitive? They already divide the tv money out on a near communist level, or as people might like to call it democratic.
    Should they give teams money to ensure Bournemouth have the same budget as Manu?

    Ffp, really ? The CAS put an end to that with their verdicts on appeal. FFP will only incur fines and small impacts on squad sizes. It's dead and the big traditional clubs are at risk of competing with other clubs bankrolled by states. I suppose lfc, real and the like have won enough conpetitions already. So it might be nice to see city and PSG win a few titles.

    UEFA/FIFA next , what you've seen is a mighty flex of institutional power over their members. Prime ministers jumping to their tune.
    Future economic growth is going to be in the digital market, the clubs have survived a year without fans. They couldn't survive a year without tv revenue. That's where future growth will be.
    The various bodies have managed to prevent clubs from taking their cash cow into the club's control. It's a fantastic day for UEFA/FIFA.
    They may have won the battle but the war has just begun. Its just going to take more planning and getting the fans onside,might take a while but it will get to something like their vision by the end.
    UEFA and FIFA are surely not stupid enough to think this has been put to bed?
    That Ceferins embarrassing statement on City made me laugh. Almost like saying "you've been a naughty boy and you've apologised. Aslong as you promise not to do it again you can play with your toys"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Taksin without socialism ( in its true sense ) Liverpool FC means nothing!


    And I would NOT support us if we had Saudi owners. That I could never stomach.

    Never hated FSG but never wanted them - always knew it would be an uphill struggle. I was made up when the bagged Klopp - their best work.. but despite that it seems they have managed to fook it up.
    What is socialism in its true sense ?

    Dragging the best players to the biggest clubs. Taking from the smaller clubs to increase ones advantage over others when competing to win prizes and avoid losing out to others ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    What is socialism in its true sense ?

    Dragging the best players to the biggest clubs. Taking from the smaller clubs to increase ones advantage over others when competing to win prizes and avoid losing out to others ?

    Nothing to do with who we buy CC - please understand it is about sharing..



    I understand that growing up in a indoctrinated Catholic nation you are totally programmed to hate the term - but socialism is the best of humanity. It is what gave us the NHS the greatest and only true socialist legacy this country has..

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    “Team spirit is a form of socialism. I’m my own politics – I don’t go in for politics. But that kind of forms a camaraderie and it us a basis for socialism. When you hear people running down fellas that are socialists I think they are wrong. They don’t know what they are talking about…..I’m talking life. I’m not talking about politics in the true sense of politics…..I’m talking about humanity. People dealing with people and people helping people.”

    “The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That’s how I see football, that’s how I see life.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyebo View Post
    What were people's thoughts on these owners when they bought the club ?. I'm asking because i wasn't on here at the time so never saw anyone's opinion on it.
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    How can the PL make it more competitive? They already divide the tv money out on a near communist level, or as people might like to call it democratic.
    Should they give teams money to ensure Bournemouth have the same budget as Manu?

    Ffp, really ? The CAS put an end to that with their verdicts on appeal. FFP will only incur fines and small impacts on squad sizes. It's dead and the big traditional clubs are at risk of competing with other clubs bankrolled by states. I suppose lfc, real and the like have won enough conpetitions already. So it might be nice to see city and PSG win a few titles.

    UEFA/FIFA next , what you've seen is a mighty flex of institutional power over their members. Prime ministers jumping to their tune.
    Future economic growth is going to be in the digital market, the clubs have survived a year without fans. They couldn't survive a year without tv revenue. That's where future growth will be.
    The various bodies have managed to prevent clubs from taking their cash cow into the club's control. It's a fantastic day for UEFA/FIFA.
    Im clearly talking of FFP why cant they do it they have just yapped on about sporting merit.

    Yes it is a good day for UEFA etc but they are arseholes too why no backlash for them.

    FIFA the same people who selected QATAR cos of .?????? The same thing they are moaning about now.

    The whole thing is a mess but nowt will change and by next week this will become old news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post

    The cash cow is buying a club at less than half price "a steal" for £300 million - making it run itself and then owning an asset worth nigh on £2 Billion. This is like real estate investment Taksin this is not the same as draining the asset of what it has - but is about maximising it's Value either as a sale asset or for rental income.
    This is your assertion and it is obviously wrong. There is no universe where you might admit you're wrong of course. I, unlike you, have spent a great deal of careful energy pointing out the errors of your basic formulation. I know you want to believe it is true, but at some point you'll have to admit (to yourself presumably) it just doesn't add up.

    Firstly, there is some truth to the idea that it is like a real estate investment. If you are in a market that undergoes price inflation then all assets within that market do rise in value. In that case, being an absentee landlord is good enough to generate profits at the point of sale. (But it isn't merely a property - it is a business with employees, income and expenditure)

    Is that what FSG have done? If you really believe that then you are miserly in your ability to give the devil its due. It's so obvious that FSG have overseen a period of modernisation, innovation, progress on and off the field. Even this ESL debacle was an attempt to drag their asset into a higher realm of excellence, whether we like it or not. There has been no absentee landlordism during their reign.

    The new asset value is in part a reflection of the work they have done. It would be easy to measure that too - track the changing value of all the clubs during this FSG period, and observe the percentage differences. Your real estate argument would sink.

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