European Superleague teams to be announced today

[jozza800]

A salary cap would make a massive difference. If we capped the weekly wage for all clubs at all levels to £1m a week for every player on a clubs books it would even things up a little more.

It would stop the players wages spiralling out of control ans prevent clubs from stockpiling players.

The TV money should be shared equally. Someone said why should we subsidise the smaller clubs? Well if we don't we end up with a situation we've just seen. Take out the top 6 and all of the money is taken from the league. But likewise, if the big 6 go and play on their own what competion is there?

[Taksin]

I believe you stated that a parasite's agenda is to destroy its host..? This could be seen as a feeble attempt at defending the owners.

If you really do work in medicine I would be very concerned at your lack of understanding of the most basic biology.

this makes no sense again, but it comes with the customary moral high ground.

Are you saying a parasite does not damage the host?

Why was the attempt feeble? Explain yourself. If you accuse the owners of acting as parasites (again, just like with the cash cow analogy the parasite drains the host of its resources and diverts them to its own aims) and I show that the metaphor is not just wrong but opposite to what we are witnessing, isn't that enough to point out that you are not talking sense?

If you think they are draining the resources like parasites then make your case. Last time I checked, a host that is infected with a parasite tends to head rapidly towards its own demise, not become the best in the world.

So spare me the patronising comments about my medical knowledge. You are talking rubbish.

[teesred]

A salary cap would make a massive difference. If we capped the weekly wage for all clubs at all levels to £1m a week for every player on a clubs books it would even things up a little more.

It would stop the players wages spiralling out of control ans prevent clubs from stockpiling players.

The TV money should be shared equally. Someone said why should we subsidise the smaller clubs? Well if we don't we end up with a situation we've just seen. Take out the top 6 and all of the money is taken from the league. But likewise, if the big 6 go and play on their own what competion is there?

Agree on a salary cap. Just not sure how it gets implemented without being bent.
Players are the ones who drive the cost up, this is lost on them but obviously most of them "aint the sharpest knife in the errr.......... place where they keep the knives".
The cost could come down for fans if clubs got together and agreed to try and act a more sustainable manner but that won't happen. Its an ideal ideology but there's always the ones who would break rank with it and ruin it.
Ironically most US sports have salary caps whilst at the same time having some of the most outrageous salaries in sport.

[CCTV]

Nothing to do with who we buy CC - please understand it is about sharing..



I understand that growing up in a indoctrinated Catholic nation you are totally programmed to hate the term - but socialism is the best of humanity. It is what gave us the NHS the greatest and only true socialist legacy this country has..

“Team spirit is a form of socialism. I’m my own politics – I don’t go in for politics. But that kind of forms a camaraderie and it us a basis for socialism. When you hear people running down fellas that are socialists I think they are wrong. They don’t know what they are talking about…..I’m talking life. I’m not talking about politics in the true sense of politics…..I’m talking about humanity. People dealing with people and people helping people.”

“The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That’s how I see football, that’s how I see life.”

Bill Shankly

That doesn't really apply to me, your view of Ireland and Catholicism, I grew up no too long ago.
I asked about socialism as it's a broad term and people have rather iffy opinions on what it is, unsurprisingly you define it as the best of humanity as opposed to something more concrete or relevant to the fields in which it is typically employed.

Shankly, team spirit is a form of socialism, its also applicable to use team spirit as competitive or a set of individuals binding into a capitalist endeavour. Achieving a goal.
Shankly seems to be struggling to define himself as a humanist which would fit his spiel better imo.

We have a fan base that seems ok with the spending on wages, but unhappy at the millions less in transfer spending as measured by net spend.
It seems people would be happy to see LFC spend millions more on players, myself included and yet believe this would be ok under a socialist model. The richest teams in the richest league should spend the most.
Not very socialist in terms of other teams with less market share of global fandom and less spending power. In wanting to be no1 there are few who've suggested we don't take the best players from other clubs.

The team has the best of scousers making up a minority of senior playing staff. Similarly Britons make up a minority part of the squad.
We have Salah and Mane, Pele and Maradona like players in their respective nations or community, granted less competition than in the stocks of Brazil and Argentina.Only recognised for their star ability, which in reality is only achievable via the nature of football and its hierarchies of inequality.

So when you say socialism in its purest sense I do struggle to see how you apply it to football, a competitive sport, where people have rivals they do not want to see wins thing.
Where fans aren't saying it's spurs turn to win the cl final, I hope we lose to them. Do no lfc fans think of the spurs fans and their lack of silverware !!
Do they fook

[ianlfc]

That's not true.

We've just youtubed it and it would appear to be true !! The Glaziers were handed the trophy when they won it earlier in the year.
It's all self importance with the Americans.

[southernboy]

A salary cap would have to be enforced equally in all of the European leagues. It's going to be hard enough to get Mbappé without telling him he'll be earning a fraction of what he could get in Spain.

[Steveo]

this makes no sense again, but it comes with the customary moral high ground.

Are you saying a parasite does not damage the host?

Why was the attempt feeble? Explain yourself. If you accuse the owners of acting as parasites (again, just like with the cash cow analogy the parasite drains the host of its resources and diverts them to its own aims) and I show that the metaphor is not just wrong but opposite to what we are witnessing, isn't that enough to point out that you are not talking sense?

If you think they are draining the resources like parasites then make your case. Last time I checked, a host that is infected with a parasite tends to head rapidly towards its own demise, not become the best in the world.

So spare me the patronising comments about my medical knowledge. You are talking rubbish.

No a parasite obviously causes some damage in most cases but you said its agenda is to destroy - if that were the case it would destroy its source of survival.


Back to school

[CCTV]

A salary cap would make a massive difference. If we capped the weekly wage for all clubs at all levels to £1m a week for every player on a clubs books it would even things up a little more.

It would stop the players wages spiralling out of control ans prevent clubs from stockpiling players.

The TV money should be shared equally. Someone said why should we subsidise the smaller clubs? Well if we don't we end up with a situation we've just seen. Take out the top 6 and all of the money is taken from the league. But likewise, if the big 6 go and play on their own what competion is there?

People focused on the founding members clubs as the no competition part.

In essence the esl would have delivered the height of competition. The best teams in 2 10 man leagues playing each other twice.
Whilst there are "no easy draws" in the CL there would be less again in an ESL.

The top clubs in the pl share the tv money equally for all intensive purposes.
They generate the interactions with respect to the global market.
Yet there is iirc about a 1 million difference between teams on each league position.
A small club with a small following & stadium relatively get far more than a fair share of the revenue.
As it stands building overnight success in football terms means getting very wealthy owners who flood the market with extra cash causing inflation.

You wont find any everton fans bemoaning their owners spending a shitload on players under some social justice flag. Or Leeds fans about getting bielsa to a championship team or their spending £96.1 as a promoted club.

[Steveo]

@CC

Struggling with Charity over Socialism.

Someone is a super Capitalist.

[Kev0909]

A salary cap would have to be enforced equally in all of the European leagues. It's going to be hard enough to get Mbappé without telling him he'll be earning a fraction of what he could get in Spain.

Maybe some of these clubs, especially in spain would be better off if that happened, instead of crying how much debt they're in

Barca for example have made there bed, they can re-build like every other club has to, instead of trying to find ways to make a quick buck (i.e superleague)

all this would of done is inflate everything even more