European Superleague teams to be announced today

[CCTV]

A salary cap would have to be enforced equally in all of the European leagues. It's going to be hard enough to get Mbappé without telling him he'll be earning a fraction of what he could get in Spain.

You fooking racist !! (Said with no sincerity)

I dont think I need to step outside Europe, but over here our elite footballers in the elite airtircity league are part time players, usually out of contract in the off season and earning a working wage.

Not sure how you get people who are global icons to play for a working wage when being a global icon and that level of fame precludes you from having a normal life.
Or should LFC and the PL be paying top wages to our players in the airtiricity league.

I wouldn't swap my no mark life for the position Salah or other top star have, that level of fame and invasion into my personal life would be horrible.
Still I'm glad they get nice houses and cars etc as I do admire the beauty of grand things. And over time those grand technologies become more affordable and commonplace as the level of grandeur increases again.

The rich get richer and the poor get richer, is the historical fact as shown by data.

[Steveo]

This is your assertion and it is obviously wrong. There is no universe where you might admit you're wrong of course. I, unlike you, have spent a great deal of careful energy pointing out the errors of your basic formulation. I know you want to believe it is true, but at some point you'll have to admit (to yourself presumably) it just doesn't add up.

Firstly, there is some truth to the idea that it is like a real estate investment. If you are in a market that undergoes price inflation then all assets within that market do rise in value. In that case, being an absentee landlord is good enough to generate profits at the point of sale. (But it isn't merely a property - it is a business with employees, income and expenditure)

Is that what FSG have done? If you really believe that then you are miserly in your ability to give the devil its due. It's so obvious that FSG have overseen a period of modernisation, innovation, progress on and off the field. Even this ESL debacle was an attempt to drag their asset into a higher realm of excellence, whether we like it or not. There has been no absentee landlordism during their reign.

The new asset value is in part a reflection of the work they have done. It would be easy to measure that too - track the changing value of all the clubs during this FSG period, and observe the percentage differences. Your real estate argument would sink.

You know I could agree with some of this IF the same increases in club values had not materialised for all Premier league clubs - some of whom like Spurs for example have not won a bean!! How the hell did they even get offered an ESL slot..? Any ideas?

The TV money is what has driven the vast increases in club values..something that was happening pre 2010 and which has increased massively since - player prices as a direct reflection of this.

The fact that FSG have modernised certain elements of the club since 2010 is a given - especially as that was the ONLY reason for the initial sale by Moores to H&G. The club was miles behind where it should have been especially as it was the most successful club in the land. Following H&G we were massively undervalued

Crediting the owners for doing the basics right is fine and they have essentially mirrored the merchandising and corporate model shown to them by the filth down the East lancs.

Despite this massive increase in turnover mainly due to TV money - they wanted to pursue a closed off franchised NFL styled monopoly.

FYI you want to credit the owners with our increase in worth..


In 2011 our brand value was $250 million. - by 2017 we were @ $908 Million

In 2011 Chelsea’s brand value was $310 million - by 2017 they are @ $1.24 Billion - the highest they have been.

In fact you can plot our value increase and match it to the arrival of Klopp..

We doubled our club value between 2011 and 2015 from $250 to $577

at the same time Arsenal went from a value of $301 to $703... Was this brilliant stewardship?

This graph pretty much shows it. All clubs increase value hugely between 2011 and 2015 due to the massive Tv money injection - then we get Klopp and the football changes and we start looking like a team people want to watch - then we get to finals and then we start winning them!

Jurgen Klopp. He is the big difference not specifically the way the club is "run".

If you want more evidence of how key the manager is look at Arsenal since sacking Wenger - dropping value big time now from a very healthy $1 Billion in 2018 to less than $800 million in 2020.

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We've just youtubed it and it would appear to be true !! The Glaziers were handed the trophy when they won it earlier in the year.
It's all self importance with the Americans.

Ah sorry mate. I thought the team lifted it first.
I've never got the whole chairmen/owners posing with trophies. They all have to be acknowledged now,back in the day you hardly even knew who those kind of people were but now they seek the limelight ,they have to have recognition.

[CCTV]

Nothing to do with who we buy CC - please understand it is about sharing..



I understand that growing up in a indoctrinated Catholic nation you are totally programmed to hate the term - but socialism is the best of humanity. It is what gave us the NHS the greatest and only true socialist legacy this country has..

@CC

Struggling with Charity over Socialism.

Someone is a super Capitalist.

Keep swimming in the shallow end

[Steveo]

Keep swimming in the shallow end

It’s much more fun..

[Steveo]

Shall we put it in super simplistic terms for those who are a little bit thick..

This is what socialism is not. What anyone with any social values would be dead against.

Massively benefitting from already obscene wealth disproportionate TV money and crippling costs to the punter yet pushing for an agenda that makes it more so.

Making record profits already and still prepared to completely erode the fabric of the sport to ensure they never end - despite the fact that those without access to the elite club will surely suffer.

There is a point at which a person or persons are called cunts for a reason.

[CCTV]

Nothing to do with who we buy CC - please understand it is about sharing..



I understand that growing up in a indoctrinated Catholic nation you are totally programmed to hate the term - but socialism is the best of humanity. It is what gave us the NHS the greatest and only true socialist legacy this country has..

It’s much more fun..

Its safer too, always the bridesmaid never the bride to invoke some of the sectarian undertones.

[CCTV]

Nothing to do with who we buy CC - please understand it is about sharing..



I understand that growing up in a indoctrinated Catholic nation you are totally programmed to hate the term - but socialism is the best of humanity. It is what gave us the NHS the greatest and only true socialist legacy this country has..

Shall we put it in super simplistic terms for those who are a little bit thick..

This is what socialism is not. What anyone with any social values would be dead against.

Massively benefitting from already obscene wealth disproportionate TV money and crippling costs to the punter yet pushing for an agenda that makes it more so.

Making record profits already and still prepared to completely erode the fabric of the sport to ensure they never end - despite the fact that those without access to the elite club will surely suffer.

There is a point at which a person or persons are called cunts for a reason.

I suffer everytime you highlight your better broadband or subscription tv service.

Everytime you vaunted the wealth of your London city status and make out us peasants out in the sticks are untermensch.

I suffer everytime you fail to enlighten me when asked.

You are a capitalist too, taking a holiday round Europe while people died, for shame steveo, for shame !!

I did benefit too, but let's not talk about that, or the Joy's of not living in such a fine and utopian capital city.

[CCTV]

Only punch up, and when your near the top too, never punch inwards it might crack the fragile pretense.

All Salah has on me, is fame which I would struggle with, more money for holiers etc, his loved ones will pass, so will mine, on an everyday sense he hasn't much more than I.

[Steveo]

I suffer everytime you highlight your better broadband or subscription tv service.

Everytime you vaunted the wealth of your London city status and make out us peasants out in the sticks are untermensch.

I suffer everytime you fail to enlighten me when asked.

You are a capitalist too, taking a holiday round Europe while people died, for shame steveo, for shame !!

I did benefit too, but let's not talk about that, or the Joy's of not living in such a fine and utopian capital city.

You could at least try and stop highlighting how much of an ignorant little shit you are, but it seems you can't help it.

Not that it has anything to do with you buster but I payed for a holiday for my family over a long period of time - was locked up at home for months on end and then told I would lose 75% of what I had payed for the holiday. So I got in the car and drove. Not that I have to justify that, my broadband or my Sky subscription to you - nor the cost of a match day ticket to see a team you never have.

You - and a few others like you would defend the deplorable behaviour by those who already earn more in a day than most do in a month. Good - it reveals who you are.

Oh and for the umpteenth time I don't live in London..