Match Thread : Chelsea v Liverpool

[TheDOC1979]

Don't know how anyone gave Tsimi MOTM for that display today, his delivery and giving the ball away was even worse than Robbo when everyone was bashing him, had about 8 absolutely golden positions to put quality into the box and pick a player out and didn't deliver one single quality ball and all his corners were shite too

I think you need to chill and look at your favourite midfielder and how poorly he played. Out of all of them, Tsimikas was the one with fight in his stomach. Played a really good game. Better than those who scored, better than the one who had the assist and much much better than the useless combo of midfielders put out. Kelleher a very very close second. Without his two crucial saves, we’d have easily lost it and the once again, not a plan B in sight to try and score.

[Nineteenx]

Also poor to lose possession, but Virgil and Tsimi following Pulisic back while not ever being in a position to be close enough to get to him and make a challenge if the ball did go to him and playing him onside when everyone else was letting him run offside

That is five or more times this season Virgil has done that, he's done it twice to Konate and 3 times to Matip when they've held their nerve and a good line

Ideally we wouldn't have let Gini go or would have replaced him in the summer or already in this window so we'd have consistency of selection and in our pressing and counter pressing and positioning through that, but when it isn't there or where it needs to be and the other players are playing offside and you're on their blind side, you can't follow the fucking runner unless you're going to be close enough to make a fucking challenge if the ball goes to him, otherwise you're just moronically playing them on and giving them a free hit

[Nineteenx]

I think you need to chill and look at your favourite midfielder and how poorly he played. Out of all of them, Tsimikas was the one with fight in his stomach. Played a really good game. Better than those who scored, better than the one who had the assist and much much better than the useless combo of midfielders put out. Kelleher a very very close second. Without his two crucial saves, we’d have easily lost it and the once again, not a plan B in sight to try and score.

No he didn't, he and Virgil played Pulisic onside for the equaliser and he didn't put one decent cross or corner in the entire game, despite numerous opportunities to do so

We all know the midfield's fucked through under investment and the wrong signings like Thiago and Fabinho, thought you of all people would pipe down considering you were glad to see the back of Gini who was absolutely miles better for our system than either and always available, you're continually skewed analysis and running down of his abilities and what he brought to the team looks incredibly foolish on the evidence of this season doesn't it

[Crimson Dynasty]

No he didn't, he and Virgil played Pulisic onside for the equaliser and he didn't put one decent cross or corner in the entire game, despite numerous opportunities to do so

We all know the midfield's fucked through under investment and the wrong signings like Thiago and Fabinho, thought you of all people would pipe down considering you were glad to see the back of Gini who was absolutely miles better for our system than either and always available, you're continually skewed analysis and running down of his abilities and what he brought to the team looks incredibly foolish on the evidence of this season doesn't it

Must be the reason he's really tearing it up at PSG and elevating them to heavenly heights.

Oh wait,.....

[southernboy]

I’ll never understand why we didn’t sign Pulisic given his history with Klopp, he’s a terrific little player.

[TheDOC1979]

No he didn't, he and Virgil played Pulisic onside for the equaliser and he didn't put one decent cross or corner in the entire game, despite numerous opportunities to do so

We all know the midfield's fucked through under investment and the wrong signings like Thiago and Fabinho, thought you of all people would pipe down considering you were glad to see the back of Gini who was absolutely miles better for our system than either and always available, you're continually skewed analysis and running down of his abilities and what he brought to the team looks incredibly foolish on the evidence of this season doesn't it

Again? As I mentioned, I never liked Wijnaldum and don’t think I ever will. He wasn’t lighting anything up here now was he…guess he just plods on like he does at PSG and now surplus to their requirements. Where was the control of games last season when Gini was playing losing us 6 games on the trot at home. 5 decent games a season and a trespasser in the rest doesn’t give him any form of legendary status as you give him. Quality wise and ability, Wijnaldum won’t lace Thiago or Fabinhos boots. Someone who is rarely injured an always available isn’t necessarily a good player.

Maybe blame the manager for not using his full squad and playing yours and his preferred players when out of form. Robertson, firmino and Henderson , in no particular order. Leaving out those he made a difference when coming on.

You bash Fabinho and even though he had a horrid game today, it was caused by Milner and Henderson’s total inability to control their positions, losing the ball and not providing anything to our attacking three. It’s says a lot about our midfield creativity if all our decent chances come from our full backs. Tactic that needs adjusting as every fucking team in the world sees that one way form of playing.

Wijnaldum is history as is his playing career now. Think about a midfielder that can change a game when we’re losing, that can move the ball forward. As much as you like riding his dick, he wouldn’t have done anything in the games we drew. You are kidding yourself if you think otherwise, as well as kidding yourself if you think Henderson still has it.

[Crimson Dynasty]

I’ll never understand why we didn’t sign Pulisic given his history with Klopp, he’s a terrific little player.

He wanted to go to Chelsea.
He felt (at the time,....and not without reason) that he would get better playing opportunities and starting line-up chances with Chelsea than with us.

That was around the time that our front three tandem were at the peak of their form playing together which automatically put off front playing players who might have considered coming to play for us.

Werner actually wanted to come to us despite to potential competition for a starting spot (and Klopp wanted him too), but couldn't/didn't thanks unfortunate timing as we were (really really) skint at the time from the pandemic lockdown.

We should return Chelsea the compliment and swoop in for another of their loanees - who've worked out so well for us in the past (Mo,...Sturridge....).
Gallagher wouldn't be a bad shout.
Young, British, perfectly fits the FSG recruiting model....
And you know he's got something about him when the likes of Real/Barca are sniffing around the opportunity to permanently sign him from Palace.
And he knows he'll never get an opportunity in that Chelsea starting line-up.
With us, everyone knows (At least 2 out of 3 of) our preferred starting front three are on the downward curve of their playing prime days.
So it would be a great chance for a young player wanting to establish themselves for the future.

[teesred]

I’ll never understand why we didn’t sign Pulisic given his history with Klopp, he’s a terrific little player.

Totally agree. He'd have fit perfectly, I think we were genuinely in for him but like Crimson days he chose them over us. I'd bet he wouldn't if he could do it all over again but then we would most likely just have another injury prone player in the ranks as hes had his spells out with injuries.

[teesred]

He wanted to go to Chelsea.
He felt (at the time,....and not without reason) that he would get better playing opportunities and starting line-up chances with Chelsea than with us.

That was around the time that our front three tandem were at the peak of their form playing together which automatically put off front playing players who might have considered coming to play for us.

Werner actually wanted to come to us despite to potential competition for a starting spot (and Klopp wanted him too), but couldn't/didn't thanks unfortunate timing as we were (really really) skint at the time from the pandemic lockdown.

We should return Chelsea the compliment and swoop in for another of their loanees - who've worked out so well for us in the past (Mo,...Sturridge....).
Gallagher wouldn't be a bad shout.
Young, British, perfectly fits the FSG recruiting model....
And you know he's got something about him when the likes of Real/Barca are sniffing around the opportunity to permanently sign him from Palace.
And he knows he'll never get an opportunity in that Chelsea starting line-up.
With us, everyone knows (At least 2 out of 3 of) our preferred starting front three are on the downward curve of their playing prime days.
So it would be a great chance for a young player wanting to establish themselves for the future.

Gallagher would be excellent, hes the type we could do with right now but we've probably missed the boat, doubt he'd be loaned to us now. We would be able to buy him but get absolutely taken to the cleaners on the fee. Still really good shout though.

Imagine striking it lucky and getting him and Bellingham, midfield sorted for years.
Jozza said yesterday he'd be shocked if we don't recruit in Jan, even in the unlikeliest that we do it surely needs to be a midfielder and theres so little chance of getting real quality as they're just not going to be let go ( like say Bissouma ) as they are integral.
It needs a real stroke of luck like the Sturridge or Coutinho signings and we need someone to make an impact right away.

[eggy81]

Gallagher would be excellent, hes the type we could do with right now but we've probably missed the boat, doubt he'd be loaned to us now. We would be able to buy him but get absolutely taken to the cleaners on the fee. Still really good shout though.

Imagine striking it lucky and getting him and Bellingham, midfield sorted for years.
Jozza said yesterday he'd be shocked if we don't recruit in Jan, even in the unlikeliest that we do it surely needs to be a midfielder and theres so little chance of getting real quality as they're just not going to be let go ( like say Bissouma ) as they are integral.
It needs a real stroke of luck like the Sturridge or Coutinho signings and we need someone to make an impact right away.

No point in rushing a January signing now. I don’t see it happening unless we’ve already lined something up. Title is gone. We just need to get the players peaking for cl games now and keep a few points ahead of Arsenal spurs et al.
Then recruit properly to have a go at toppling city next season when they’ll be going for 3 in a row and will surely be coming towards a bit of a slump after over coming our initial challenge to their dominance. This will mean us letting Millie go and getting in 2 proper midfield signings. Rice and another more attacking type player. Sign a back up rb and a top class forward to challenge properly for sadio position.