Match Thread : Crystal Palace v Liverpool

[redebreck]

Wasn’t as bad as this one.

Kant?

[Steveo]

Kant?

Him?

I seriously do not know how the geezer keeps a straight face.

[Steveo]

For the ocularly challenged.

[shminkyred]

.....I now declare this contest a split decision draw.
Now that'll do. End of.

thats the point of var... its all about how the official interprets the rules. Always has been and always will be... So let's make sure he has all the evidence..... its so simple it baffles me why people still row about it?????

[Steveo]

I think there are 2 things here.

1. Jota definitely changes direction OR stumbles last minute to make contact with the keeper

2. The keeper is very likely to Collide anyway even if he doesn’t

What I first thought was “never a pen in a million years” is actually not nearly so cut and dry.

We don’t know that the keeper would have contacted with Jota had he continued in the direction of the ball - but he easily could.

A rather grey area here and a penalty decision is not a clear and obvious mistake - for me at least.

[Taksin]

A rather grey area here

hmmm... yes, I can see what you're saying

[Steveo]

Think…if we imagine we are Jota and can think like a forward - one who is that direct and scores goals

He is actually trying a very skilful manoeuvre. Trying to run to the left of the keeper and flick the ball over to the right and into an empty net.

Now granted - this is after multiple views IN slow motion…but IF we watch his eyes as he runs through, they definitely look past the keeper and at the goal. His intention seems to be that the ball goes there.

But he doesn’t connect properly with the ball - keeper in his eye line puts him off or more likely a dodgy bounce off uneven turf.

Dunno for certain but that’s my take. Would have been an amazing goal had it come off.

I know many will disagree BUT a Penalty is not such a bad shout the more I see it from this angle.

[Steveo]

hmmm... yes, I can see what you're saying

Haha good one - actually think the black and white helps visually to minimise distraction.

See Jota eyes firmly fixed on the ball as he attempts to flick it inside the keepers left..

[Taksin]

He actually needs to jump right in order to move left, which is where the ball went

[Steveo]

see here I have made it closer to real speed and repeated the action.





Jota seemingly attempts to score with a flick from the outside of his right foot while the defender tries to clear.. This is a good reason why he veers to the right- the defender has affected his direction so it cannot really be put solely on Jota.

he appears to change direction to collide but actually changes direction to block off the defender and shoot. very different from what was described by so many of us (myself included) and so many pundits.

After exhaustive analysis I believe this was a penalty. Correct call and missed by most.