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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Despite your rather childish attempts to point score Taksin I have conceded - after close analysis - produced by my own hand to find the truth that the Jota incident resulting in a penalty was totally justified. At least to me.
    I honestly don't care what you've concluded, as I don't with the Firmino offside.. what bothers me is the inflexibility you have for an honest challenge.. you always descend into insults - even here you're doing that

    'some people can't admit they're wrong'
    'people that lack true intelligence'
    etc etc

    that's why it's ironic that you're calling this one a grey area - that's pretty much all anyone was saying about the Firmino offside. They both obviously have some grey area. Yet you descend into endless certainty that you were right. It is therefore not childish to point out how your position has changed here as both positions were accompanied by the certainty that concludes what everyone else should think.

    when you accuse someone of not being able to admit they're wrong, its usually someone who won't admit that you're right

    that's what's known as projection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    see here I have made it closer to real speed and repeated the action.





    Jota seemingly attempts to score with a flick from the outside of his right foot while the defender tries to clear.. This is a good reason why he veers to the right- the defender has affected his direction so it cannot really be put solely on Jota.

    he appears to change direction to collide but actually changes direction to block off the defender and shoot. very different from what was described by so many of us (myself included) and so many pundits.

    After exhaustive analysis I believe this was a penalty. Correct call and missed by most.
    That's exactly the angle that I brought up in the video clip I presented earlier in this thread. And that's exactly the angle that VAR had up on Kevin Friend's pitch side screen for the incident during the game.
    Penalty all day long...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taksin View Post
    I honestly don't care what you've concluded, as I don't with the Firmino offside.. what bothers me is the inflexibility you have for an honest challenge.. you always descend into insults - even here you're doing that

    'some people can't admit they're wrong'
    'people that lack true intelligence'
    etc etc

    that's why it's ironic that you're calling this one a grey area - that's pretty much all anyone was saying about the Firmino offside. They both obviously have some grey area. Yet you descend into endless certainty that you were right. It is therefore not childish to point out how your position has changed here as both positions were accompanied by the certainty that concludes what everyone else should think.

    when you accuse someone of not being able to admit they're wrong, its usually someone who won't admit that you're right

    that's what's known as projection
    But those comments are true -

    'some people can't admit they're wrong' is correct for those who have an issue admitting they are wrong.

    'people that lack true intelligence' is correct - if they need it pointed out that fans reactions are not automatically connected to a correct decison.

    What is your beef exactly?


    You seem consumed, obsessed even with me and my weaknesses. We all have weaknesses Taksin as you should be very well aware.

    tees very kindly offered the forum some peace and you an 'out' with his declaration of a draw regarding what we all can see.. It has clearly wound you up.

    Maturity would be for you to concede Bobby was guilty of 'clearly attempting to play a ball' for our second goal? Yes it would...

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    Quote Originally Posted by justincredible View Post
    That's exactly the angle that I brought up in the video clip I presented earlier in this thread. And that's exactly the angle that VAR had up on Kevin Friend's pitch side screen for the incident during the game.
    Penalty all day long...
    Well you were spot on - most have missed it. We are only humans after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teesred View Post
    Not a penalty in my opinion.
    Carry on though.
    Again.
    It is open to interpretation without question tees. To me it seems a pen to others not.. Penalties are so difficult to pin down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Well you were spot on - most have missed it. We are only humans after all.
    Some other pretty young thing must've had your head turned Steveo. It happens, lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post

    Maturity would be for you to concede Bobby was guilty of 'clearly attempting to play a ball' for our second goal? Yes it would...
    It's not clear as he can't reach it and he stopped trying mid way through. So it's a grey area. There is no need to agree with you in order be honest, to have eyes, to be intelligent, to know football, to not be obsessed, to be capable of changing one's mind, to see what's real, to know the truth or to evade any other insult from someone who may just go and insult you for drawing the opposite conclusion a few days later when he's done some slo-mo animatronics and changed his own mind.

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    Oh - ok Taksin

    Shall just have to agree to disagree on what clearly attempting to play the ball looks like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Oh - ok Taksin

    Shall just have to agree to disagree on what clearly attempting to play the ball looks like.
    Or just accept it’s not clear and that the rules allow for the interpretation given.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taksin View Post
    Or just accept it’s not clear and that the rules allow for the interpretation given.

    I don't think I need to accept something my eyes can see not to be the case? I can agree to disagree.

    I can look at the Oxlade goal 1 million times from every angle and Bobby always jumps to head the ball.

    I can accept that it is not clear to you. that's it.

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