Liverpool transfers in/out and rumours 22/23 + Contracts

[JockStrap]

Edward’s was always wildly overrated & given far too much credit for our success & the cracks are certainly showing already on his return with our frankly pathetic window & aspirations with him back at the club

So bidding £51m on a player who was intent on joining, then changed his mind, is a lack of ambition. Got it.

[Insidious]

Little tidbits from Pearce, from the Athletic Podcast -

- Liverpool genuinely believed Zubimendi was coming. They wouldn't have gone public otherwise.
- Optics bad for Hughes, though Pearce is unsure what difference a different Sporting Director would have made.
- Told by sources that Liverpool will not go for an alternative, no Bruno G. from Newcastle for instance (Pearce does also mention that this could be the club not wanting to sound desperate)
- Gravenberch is probably favourite to start alongside Mac Allister in the double pivot
- Looking like Clark will go. Ljinders is pushing for him, with a third bid of £10m. Liverpool were looking for £12m for him.
- Kaide Gordon attracting interest from the Championship, Luca Stephenson attracting interest from League 1 interest.
- Nobody is close to the £20m asking price for Sepp VdB
- No movement on the contracts. Reaching the point where they NEED progress. Unfair on Slot otherwise.

No movement on any of the contracts is the one that would ring the biggest alarm bells for me, if true. I understand the difficulty in negotiating a contract for stars that are probably beyond their best years (I wouldn't want to give Salah £450k-per-week for example) but to not have made any progress for any of the three (if that's accurate) is really quite poor. Michael Edwards (as far as I can work the roles out) would have hired Hughes and if a head "rolls" at any point, I imagine that's the first - whether rightly or wrongly.

I'd love to know who gave the go-ahead for us going public on Zubimendi. That has been another poor call. There's a lot of talk on here about funding and so on, but it's a buy-out clause and in Spain. The player himself has to activate the clauseT and to do that the player has to agree to the move so we can then agree to transfer the funds over - and it didn't happen, despite reports around two weeks ago saying he had agreed to come. Which individual (or individuals) are at fault there, I'd love to know. Pointing a finger at John Wi-fi Henry is all well-and-good, but something has gone wrong at cogs-and-gears level there.

The player has changed his mind - it happens. The timing, coupled with the background context of previously missed targets.....eeeesh Need an alternative, yet I don't want us to go "slightly better than Endo" - but every time we aim high, we seem to botch it. Hopefully it gets sorted quickly as addressing the midfield isn't a new issue.

Hughes has been in the job for a very short spell and I bet he's feeling the heat already!!!

[teesred]

I've read a few things that say Hughes is fuming as the player gave his word. Doubt he's feeling the heat,it's his first attempt and he's had nothing to do with the other previous debacles.

I wonder if there's been a hold up in the finance side? Structure etc? If they'd paid up what
Sociedad wanted asap would he be a Liverpool player now? Would they be stuck with a player who's doubted himself ? Not a good situation that one so the fact we've lost out on him isn't that much if a deal really. The debacle is they've pretty much left it too late now but they're looking for a specific type of 6 anyway so there ain't many options for what Slot has specified hence it looking like Gravenberch is going to be given the job.
It's not just this transfer that's got peoples backs up again. It's the pattern of transfer cock ups again and also fans are concerned over the three contracts of three of our best players.

Sepp VdB is clearly a player they're after selling. I'd like to know where the 20m valuation has come from. If nobody is going near that figure it's clear that it's way too high.

[Insidious]

It's not just this transfer that's got peoples backs up again. It's the pattern of transfer cock ups again and also fans are concerned over the three contracts of three of our best players.

Mad how Big Jorge managed to negotiate transfers in his shorts from Ibiza so many questions!

[faridtoxteth]

I thought we were also looking at Wharton. Did that go cold?

[teesred]

I thought we were also looking at Wharton. Did that go cold?

Not sure if it was people just speculating saying they'd like us to. I've not seen any reputable link and I read earlier in the summer that they have absolutely no intention at all of selling him. He only moved there in January I think.
That Parish is going to rinse Newcastle for Guehi so he'll do the same for whoever moves for Wharton if he keeps up his trajectory.

[Insidious]

I thought we were also looking at Wharton. Did that go cold?

Earlier in the window I made a post to the effect of "perhaps not a popular opinion, but I'd love Wharton here" and there were a couple of responses to it in agreement - you might (?) be thinking of that - I certainly don't recall any serious links with him.

[Steveo]

Not sure if it was people just speculating saying they'd like us to. I've not seen any reputable link and I read earlier in the summer that they have absolutely no intention at all of selling him. He only moved there in January I think.
That Parish is going to rinse Newcastle for Guehi so he'll do the same for whoever moves for Wharton if he keeps up his trajectory.

Correct.

[Kev0909]

Gravenberch is probably favourite to start alongside Mac Allister in the double pivot

Good grief we are in trouble if last season is to go by midfield wasn't exactly the best last season......

thought we're meant to improve, not get worse as the seasons go on? yet best players we have aged another season obviously.... nothing being done in the window

Total shit.

[justme]

Gravenberch is probably favourite to start alongside Mac Allister in the double pivot

Good grief we are in trouble if last season is to go by midfield wasn't exactly the best last season......

thought we're meant to improve, not get worse as the seasons go on? yet best players we have aged another season obviously.... nothing being done in the window

Total shit.

Its not just Zumendi , where are other players we need? a new centre back? a left back? and so on?? no fucker is being signed again.