Darwin Nunez

[miller0863]

Ffs what a ridiculously fragile group of players.
I do wonder how often we leave players out who really could have played. Talk to any ex pro and they will tell you how rarely during a season they played without carrying any niggles, knocks or minor injuries. Seems like someone brushes past this lot and they’re out injured for a month.

[eggy81]

Balls

[Nineteenx]

Maybe Wagbo at LFWD with Bobby at No9 could be interesting now Wagbo seems to understand the pace and physicality of the Prem better, needs to make the runs in behind instead of coming short and the outside in runs when it goes back to Trent or Hendo to cross

Outside of Mane our most successful LFWD in terms of goals and assists per game has been Oxlade

The simple reason for this being Ox played the role exactly as Mane did, took the same cues and triggers of the ball going to Trent, Hendo and Virgil to make the same runs by maintaining the automation and understanding those players would be looking for those runs and be able to connect them

Football really is a simple game made complicated by idiots

[Nineteenx]

I think Nunez 'with coaching' of not just him but all relevant players, so that's a massive IF consider the seeming complete absence of or inability to coach players from our staff that is becoming sadly all too evident, I mean look at Origi, the lad was here for 6 seasons and they m=never coached him to visual cues and triggers to make the runs inside and behind for when he got opportunities in the Mane LFWD role

So work is needed from our coaching staff and analysis team in putting together a detailed compilation of our LFWD role played at it's best highlighting all the visual and positional cues Nunez should be recognising to make the right runs Virgil, Trent and Hendo can connect

Diaz grasped the majority of the role himself we he operated at LFWD after a few games, I've seen no evidence our coaches do any actual coaching of players backed up by the analysis team as you would expect it should work in a professional and organise manner, so have to assume Diaz worked it out himself

Nunez for me can also play the RFWD role and provide some very different elements to Mo there, while still offering the runs in behind with the analysis team again providing him with detailed footage of relevant cues, but he can also offer us the left to right diagonal in the way that Kuyt used to for Rafa, and be able to get that ball down and keep us in possession, lay it off, head or chest it back to Trent or a mid then make a run in behind or take in beyond the full back with a touch winning it ahead of them himself, it will open up lots of opportunities for right to left balls for Diaz or Wagbo immediately after Nunez has knocked the ball down to one of ours two, 2 very quick switches of play, centre to right, followed by right to left of centre for our LFWDS outside in run

I think he can be developed in the No9 role, but just don't think how we tried using him in a No9 when he first arrived was helpful to him, or the rest of the team, we already had issues with our LFWD and RFWD coming short instead of making runs in behind and that simply isn't any of their games or playing to any of their strengths, it also weakens our attacking options having just one player looking to make runs in behind rather than both our wide/inside forwards who were expert at it and whom it was easier and well drilled for our full backs and Virgil to connect those runs, again, why throw the fucking baby out with the bath water, this was yet another instance of that

I think Nunez should be developed in all 3 forward positions, I think he should be developed as a brilliant all round No9, more a Kane type of No9 as he has the type of passing to release our wide/inside forwards, he hwas the height and physical presence to win the ball in front of defenders, lay it off or play it wide THEN unlike Kane now, he absolutely has the pace to get in the box for the cross

We could work on some passages of play in which our LFWD or RFWD come short on occasion for greater variation once we have mastered and firmly laid down all the above, an example being Nunez laying the ball off to say Trent, Mo coming short to Trent to draw the full back with him, Mo going first time back to our mid to play a through ball for Nunez making a run through the channel or in behinf the full back from central and he could do that on both sides

He can be developed into an absolutely world class exceptional forward with hard work and dedication from him and our coaching and analysis staff, who it is long overdue starting earning their fucking keep

[CCTV]

Maybe Wagbo at LFWD with Bobby at No9 could be interesting now Wagbo seems to understand the pace and physicality of the Prem better, needs to make the runs in behind instead of coming short and the outside in runs when it goes back to Trent or Hendo to cross

Outside of Mane our most successful LFWD in terms of goals and assists per game has been Oxlade

The simple reason for this being Ox played the role exactly as Mane did, took the same cues and triggers of the ball going to Trent, Hendo and Virgil to make the same runs by maintaining the automation and understanding those players would be looking for those runs and be able to connect them

Football really is a simple game made complicated by idiots

Using transfermarkt: only LWF appearances at LFC

Ox for his career at LFC has played LWF 8 times !!
Played 8 - scored 2 - 0 assists - 462 minutes
Goal/or/Assist per 231 minutes

Jota last season at LWF
Played 18 - scored 6 - 6 assists - 1,184minutes
Goal/or/Assist per 98.7 minutes
Best stats for the season at LWF last year

Jota for his career at LFC has playing LWF
Played 31 - scored 9 - 6 assists - 1,990 minutes
Goal/or/Assist per 132.6 minutes

Mane last season at LWF
Played 30 - scored 11 - 3 assists - 2,402 minutes
Goal/or/Assist per 171.6 minutes

Mane for his career at LFC playing LWF
Played 195 - scored 80 - 34 assists - 15,767 minutes
Goal/or/Assist 138.3 per minutes

Diaz last season at LWF
Played 24 - scored 6 - 4 assists - 1,529 minutes
Goal/or/Assist per 152.9 minutes

Diaz for his career at LFC playing LWF
Played 36 - scored 10 - 7 assists - 2,503 minutes
Goal/or/Assist per 147.2 minutes

Nunez for his career at LFC has played LWF 9 times
Played 9 - scored 5 - 2 assists - 592 minutes
Goal/or/Assist per 84.6 minutes
The best, better than Jota, both better than Mane albeit over less games & minutes

In addition to Mane both Jota & Nunez have better goal per minutes stats than Ox at LWF only

Here's Ox's career stats all comps, all positions:

Position - Played - Scored - Assisted*
Center Mid -- 74 ------ 7 ----------- 10
Right Mid ---- 18 ------ 3 ------------- 1
Left Mid ----- 15 ------- 2 ------------ 1
Left Wing ----- 8 ------- 2 ------------- 0
Attack Mid --- 7 ------- 2 ------------- 2
Right Wing --- 4 -------- 1 ------------ 1
C-Forward ---- 1 -------- 0 ------------- 0
Undefined --- 21 ------- 1 ------------- 0 (likely sub appearances)

OxTotal - Played 148 - 18 - 15 - 6,558 minutes
Goal/or/Assist per 198.7 minutes

https://www.transfermarkt.com/alex-oxlade-chamberlain/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/143424/plus/0?saison=&verein=31&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer _id=

Should be playing 4231/42X with our squad..

[Kev0909]

Ffs what a ridiculously fragile group of players.
I do wonder how often we leave players out who really could have played. Talk to any ex pro and they will tell you how rarely during a season they played without carrying any niggles, knocks or minor injuries. Seems like someone brushes past this lot and they’re out injured for a month.

If that's the case miller the players don't want to play for Klopp or don't enjoy playing

very worrying

"Mentality monsters"..... what have we become?

[JockStrap]

If that's the case miller the players don't want to play for Klopp or don't enjoy playing

very worrying

"Mentality monsters"..... what have we become?

Nothing of importance tests the thesis that your theorem would unleash.

[Kev0909]

what

[Nineteenx]

Those stats are incorrect Jota has pertinently not played LFWD that many times

Ox has 3 goals from there and at least 1 assist for Hendo and he hasn't played there 8 times, unless the stats are skewed by late sub appearances

[Nineteenx]

A look at Ox's stats in the Premier League site shows your source's aren't accurate

Edit: I was actually talking about Premier League stats which i should have said also, i barely remember Jota featuring at LFWD in the League last season

Diaz played 21
Mane played a number there too

That doesn't leave many for Jota to have played

Including stats against lesser sides in cups in which he has had opportunities starting others haven't massively skews and distorts the stats

Remember you trying to use meaningless stats to say Gomez was a top CB? We know how that worked out and who was right on that score from watching and understanding the game don't we