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    For me we’re trying to play tappy crappy City style, with the exceptions that they have been playing that way & have long established patterns of movement for the intricate play around the box we don’t & have no consistency or movement or recognisable patterns of play that provide constants for players in it

    Thry continually spread the play using the entire pitch going wide one side coming back & spreading it to the other side where there’s space

    And they consistently have players remain in good counter pressing positions & picking up

    We had too many players nowhere near good counter pressing positions second half tonight running 19-15 yards to close down a player when done right we should be on them as they receive it

    We’re resembling 19-20 City when they had gone to playing too short all the time and struggled with sides pressing and countering on them and playing through them on the counter too easy because they’d stopped taking good counter pressing positions and had too many in space not picking up trying to get involved in the tappy crappy

    Except they at least had their developed over 4 seasons short game patterns of play and movement around the box

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    Given the choice of having Robbo or Trent released in space wide or to burst through the channel to create something or Diaz or Szobo I’d choose Robbo or Trent or Bradley every single time

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTV View Post
    Alonso is on for an unbeaten season with a pittance of a net spend.

    You're insinuation my second language English isn't clear enough, is a poor excuse for your shortcomings.
    Yes CC - that’s why they are unbeaten. The secret - a weak net spend. It’s replicated across all the big winning sides.

    As you have cited repeatedly. Real Madrid - nothing special about them

    Low net spend and 14 European Cups 😜

    Keep rolling them off

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    At least it’s a win and an improved performance in the first half at least and Trent Jones & Szobo all got much needed minutes

    Need to keep going & not let our levels drop through things like the non red card & Mo’s miss, we need to get back to believing we’ll create more and we’ll put the next one away and work & strive really hard to make sure we do, relentlessly

    I would like to see us attack teams more as we used to using the width & full backs more, with our former more limited short game combined with our direct game & vastly superior pressing and counter pressing we used to test teams in every way imaginable I’d like to see us return to doing that and using everything at our disposal

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    Quote Originally Posted by HLOGI View Post
    But if we view it from a point of rivals trolling Klopps final season then yes it will be wow he shouldn't have, but I also feel that we are the victims of our own fairytale dreaming and then when it doesn't come of we are hurt beyond measure. This has been a absolutely fanstastic season, totally unexpected, whether Klopp anounced or not
    What a great post.
    VOTE JOCKY tae fix this fiasco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveo View Post
    Yes CC - that’s why they are unbeaten. The secret - a weak net spend. It’s replicated across all the big winning sides.

    As you have cited repeatedly. Real Madrid - nothing special about them

    Low net spend and 14 European Cups 😜

    Keep rolling them off
    When I've broken down the net spend, you pointed to unique Madrid. They are so unique. They could not be compared to litlle lfc. That was your excuse to exclude them. Of course lfc could be compared with anyone else, although the 3rd most CL titles, they can be compared with relative no marks. And barca, they could not be compared to real either, although their direct rival. The Spanish United to Spains LFC.
    Interestingly unique Madrid also pushed for ESL to rectify the FFP failure that sees city the biggest revenue team last year. Unlike barca they've not busted themselves #shitowners

    Maybe Bayer leverkusen are the unique Madrid of Germany. Maybe that's how they've succeeded with a low net spend. Just using all their unique title domination to attract the top stars to leverkusen.
    Or do you have a new reason to exclude them.
    Maybe Alonso is asking them to play 100 million miles an hour, like klopp as you see it, and not like Klopp when you need to shift your position.
    Same as when discussing unique Madrid, you stated we couldn't be compared with them on net spend, they sooo unique, then you introduced gross spend as your winner.
    Real unique no more.
    I pointed out we have outspent them gross since Jwh arrived and moreso under Klopp, then your real had their uniqueness reinstated when your argument fell apart. Didn't serve you.

    That's how unique and incomparable Madrid are in your opinion. Unique when it serves you and comparable when you thought it served you to compare. Then unique again.
    That's your weak m.o. when it comes to discussions.

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    RohanJivan
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    Money on transfer fees since Mik’s arrival (
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    Chelsea- €1.44Bn
    Man U- €748.38M
    Citeh- €729.9M
    Spurs- €690.9
    Arsenal- €682.74
    Liverpool -€493.85

    Everyone is spending, not just us. Also bear in mind our squad = 2nd most valuable in the world now. Klopp class btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miller0863 View Post
    RohanJivan
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    Money on transfer fees since Mik’s arrival (
    @TMuk_news
    )

    Chelsea- €1.44Bn
    Man U- €748.38M
    Citeh- €729.9M
    Spurs- €690.9
    Arsenal- €682.74
    Liverpool -€493.85

    Everyone is spending, not just us. Also bear in mind our squad = 2nd most valuable in the world now. Klopp class btw.
    MiK's ? Who is that ?

    Whose winning the league ? Chelsea or United?

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    It’s from an Arsenal fan so Mik is Arteta

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